again bs[/quote:26607]

BS? How so?[/quote:26607]


You dont think that they would be making these changes already?

If this was true and actually proven on CNN and was told by John Kerry specifically about those then I`m a fool.

dude you're a moron. there's something called independent review. not everything goes through cnn hake:

BS? How so?[/quote:58398]


You dont think that they would be making these changes already?

If this was true and actually proven on CNN and was told by John Kerry specifically about those then I`m a fool.[/quote:58398]

If you click the little "Story" links on each report, it takes you to a local news website for the state in question where you can get more info on the incidents.

yes but , where do you think everyone gets there most attention?

that will let everyone know how much lies there really are if its really true like your really saying, about the company and its errors...

I meant by putting it on CNN would be best because since CNN is democrat in full they should host it and/or put on there to show that people should actually watch it on the net...or maybe they can make a video and release it just like Fahrenheit 9/11 ...Hey theres an idea, give it to fatass michael moore and he`ll soup it up. sleeping:

.......... rolleyes:
I love how you expect something to go wrong. If you did`nt expect anything either and your against bush then well your not in for a treat because there is no way that this many machines can malfunction, there is just no possible way. Theres gotta be thousands of machines. What computer company that size would make an error on that? Hmm...

One of the companies in question, Diebold, left the source code for their election software on an unprotected FTP site. They don't strike me as being a competent company. oOo:

There are more than two candidates. Why limit yourself to this two-party
system ? hake:

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":9823e]One of the companies in question, Diebold, left the source code for their election software on an unprotected FTP site. They don't strike me as being a competent company. oOo:[/quote:9823e]

Then obviously they are bogus codes.

hake:

[url=http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/10/20/1066631346161.html?from=storyrhs&oneclick=true:692 5a]Link[/url:6925a] (Registration required so I'll post it below)
[quote:6925a]
WASHINGTON, DC, US: 'Democracy at risk' in computer vote system

Concerns over touchscreen computer kiosks used in electronic voting systems continue to grow as more opponents claim that big business has short-circuited democracy in the race to profit.

The US Government has directed $US3.9 billion ($A5.65 billion) to upgrade 19th century voting technology following the embarrassing Florida polling that allowed President George W. Bush to win power three years ago.

A report in Britain's Independent newspaper quoted Roxanne Jekot, a computer programmer with 20 years of experience, who downloaded kiosk source code from e-voting vendor Diebold, which had been erroneously posted at its public FTP site. Her line-by-line review found "enough to stand your hair on end", uncovering fatal security flaws in the 40,000 Diebold e-voting machines sold to 37 US states, ranging from the Microsoft Windows operating system all the way to the touchscreen displays. Her review found programmer notes hidden in the source code referring to it as "a gross hack" and "this really doesn't work".

Her concerns were mirrored in independent analysis by the state of Maryland, which discovered 328 flaws (26 critical) that left the Diebold system at "high risk of compromise". The Information Security Institute at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore discovered "stunning flaws" such as the password in the source code.

"This voting system is far below even the most minimal security standards," the researchers found. They said there were serious issues including "unauthorised privilege escalation, incorrect use of cryptography, vulnerabilities to network threats, and poor software development processes".

"Common voters, without any insider privileges, can cast unlimited votes without being detected by any mechanisms within the voting terminal. We conclude that, as a society, we must carefully consider the risks inherent in electronic voting, as it places our very democracy at risk."

A separate study by the Voting Technology Project, run by the Massachusetts and California Institutes of Technology, found e-voting kiosks that did not create a paper ballot for auditing were the least reliable voting systems surveyed.

The Independent cites further concerns over the political affiliations of the directors of the e-voting companies, who are all big financial contributors and vocal supporters of the Republican Bush Administration.

"Corporate America is very close to running this country," Jekot said. "The only thing that is stopping them from taking total control are the pesky voters. That's why there's such a drive to control the vote. What we're seeing is the corporatisation of the last shred of democracy."[/quote:6925a]


also worth reading, part 2 in particular....[url=http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=3529552&thesection=news&t hesubsection=world:6925a]Link[/url:6925a]

Diebold is a very repudible company in ohio with a strong democratic employee base. My father and mother has had some friends who were registered democrats who actually worked there in diebold. So that`s how I know.

Fuckin YAWWWWN rolleyes:

spank:

Well seeing as it's going to come down to Ohio, it's worth reading the second last paragraph in this article....

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/internat ... 43,00.html















ps: geRV calmdown:

[quote="Old Reliable":aae76][/quote:aae76]

Because the others dont stand a chance AT ALL

Electoral college > our votes

Any one who is pro bush is a fucking idiot. End of story you’re a complete fucking brain washed moron if you like Bush. In fact I am ashamed that my country is this dumb to vote for the dumbass again.
I see why the younger generation is fucking bi sexual and shit too, they like bush.

[quote="Anita_Head":bb65a]Any one who is pro bush is a fucking idiot. End of story you’re a complete fucking brain washed moron if you like Bush. In fact I am ashamed that my country is this dumb to vote for the dumbass again.
I see why the younger generation is fucking bi sexual and shit too, they like bush.[/quote:bb65a]

calmdown:

You sir are a fucking retard.... annoy:

No you are a fucking retard to be pro bush. I bet you suck cock too. Why any one would vote for such a blatant liar is beyond me. I mean come on TGB likes him and he is a self proclaimed faggot. That should tell you only the sick/ weak minded fools like him.

[quote="Anita_Head":2ffb0]No you are a fucking retard to be pro bush. I bet you suck cock too. Why any one would vote for such a blatant liar is beyond me. I mean come on TGB likes him and he is a self proclaimed faggot. That should tell you only the sick/ weak minded fools like him.[/quote:2ffb0]
Ouch i suck cock...thanks for the insult, your immaturity is really shining.

Ban this nitwit please.

[quote=Milla]Ouch i suck cock...thanks for the insult, your immaturity is really shining.

Ban this nitwit please.[/quote:53615]

I know he went about it the wrong way. But why do republicans always seem to think someone should be banned for having different opinions than them?

[quote="Anita_Head":8ca45]No you are a fucking retard to be pro bush. I bet you suck cock too. Why any one would vote for such a blatant liar is beyond me. I mean come on TGB likes him and he is a self proclaimed faggot. That should tell you only the sick/ weak minded fools like him.[/quote:8ca45]

Damn, relax Sparky. Life goes on. The great part is that this is a free country. You're free to move your ass to Canada if you like.

Maybe next time the Democrats will nominate a decent candidate. Who knows, might get this Republican's vote if they did. calmdown:

takes more than that to ban dumb ass you insulted me I just replyed with facts. I am done with your 17 year old know it all ass now. unlike you I have a life and dont argue with DUMB KIDS LIKE YOU. imwithstupid: cuss: hellfire: beer: go suck cock and talk about Bush. its all your good for loser.

[quote=Pyro]I know he went about it the wrong way. But why do republicans always seem to think someone should be banned for having different opinions than them?[/quote:d578e]
Its not that, he never has anything insightful to say, he just insults people. And because hes a fucking n00b.

[quote="Anita_Head":4242f]takes more than that to ban dumb ass you insulted me I just replyed with facts. I am done with your 17 year old know it all ass now. unlike you I have a life and dont argue with DUMB KIDS LIKE YOU. imwithstupid: cuss: hellfire: beer: go suck cock and talk about Bush. its all your good for loser.[/quote:4242f]

A dumb ass kid? Mother fucker im in the Marine Corp, how am i a dumb ass kid. Get the fuck out of here.

And no you insulted me first by saying people who vote for bush are fucking retarted.

This just attests the fact that america is full of stupid people.

Yea w00t Bush WON!!!

Not as yet... oOo:

actually...
[url:58172]http://www.canada.com/news/world/story.html?id=5c7fb969-b11b-4fe6-9d0a-a739b8f5e571[/url:58172]...

ed:

annoy: wallbash:

Settle down, fuckers. eek:

hahhahaha lol@all your kerry fuckers happy:

if the 3rd party would win just ONE state that would be huge

yay bush!

Im EXTREMELY happy!

But somehow...I knew he'd win!

Go AMERICA!

Go BUSH!

w000000000000000000000000000t
KERRY GOT SPOONED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spooned as in 49% to 51%.

The entire world hates bush minus central/southern states

I guess this is still relevant:

http://www.alternet.org/story/20263/

You forgot Mother Russia.

And Israel.