yeah, whenever basketball season is open, i have better health and never get sick during it. except freshman year i got sick a few days before the tryout and i couldnt join >_<

edit: holy shit shorthand, i dono anyone who can lift over 300lbs (personally) except my stepdad who does exactly 300...nice legpress too. 'roids ?

Yea...that's a heluva jump man 120 to 350 in 8 months. ed:

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The strongest guy in my school (good freind of mine/ Captain of the football team), used 290 for his reps, maxed at almost 400. As for my "fast progress" I used to be a really fucking fat mother fucker, (308) over the course of zalmost 2 years now I have lost 98 pounds. All because of weight training. biggrin: . I can't lift any where near what I used to, hell I haven't been to the gym in 2 weeks because of my management position at my job. But beleive me, when you putting in 1.5 hours a day 5 days a week,doing a full routine, where everything you eat is watched, everysupplement taken at an exact time, It is mind boggling. I spent thousands on all of it. Was it worth it ? Hell a, best years in football of my life. Would I do it again ? Yes. As for Alex's remark" The bench press was done in gym class during fitness training. The leg press lift was done at my gym in the annaul lifting compition. (Beleive it or not) I still lost in both categories. Neither did I have the biggest, but I was also smoked pound for pound strength wise. (they take your lift and divide it by your body mass).

Fat turns into muscle at an extraordinary rate. My sophmore year I started working out with an overweight friend. He maxed at 135 I maxed at 215. Within two months he had passed me up. Bastard. mad:

I don't think so.

"This is perhaps the most commonly held belief among fitness enthusiasts. Muscle and fat are two different kinds of tissue and one cannot turn into another. When muscles are not used, they begin to shrink (a process called atrophy). If you keep maintaining a weightlifters diet and do not exercise, you will gain weight because you are not burning off the extra calories. The process of muscle gain and fat gain however are completely different."

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[quote=Alax54]I started working out when I was 13...haven't had any health problems. Regular excercise is actually proven to be good for your mental health.[/quote:7075d]Yes you can damage your growth plates if you lift INCORRECTLY, if your doing the lifting correctly its fine...

[quote="Jin-Roh":2cf9b][quote=Alax54]Fat turns into muscle at an extraordinary rate.[/quote]

I don't think so.

"This is perhaps the most commonly held belief among fitness enthusiasts. Muscle and fat are two different kinds of tissue and one cannot turn into another. When muscles are not used, they begin to shrink (a process called atrophy). If you keep maintaining a weightlifters diet and do not exercise, you will gain weight because you are not burning off the extra calories. The process of muscle gain and fat gain however are completely different."

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He doesn't mean the "fat", what Alex means is Fat people tend to have larger eating habits. (Yes it is true...surprise ?) SO the whole process in many ways has alot of what it needs in comparision to a lot of normal sized people.