You should take a lesson from my friend Machette. It is possible to discuss opposing views without name calling. The points that I used are available in the FBI database. I'm still waiting to hear what facts you are using as a basis for your assertion.

... and guns are designed to do exactly what I said before - propel bullets at a high velocity.

and BTW, SoLiDUS, lay off Machette please. thx

That is what they do as a function. That's their action. Their purpose is totally different.

A Music cd is embedded data that is meant to send a signal to a speaker so it can emit sound waves in a certain point...while a purpose is to entertain a listener.

A guns purpose is to harm or kill. No if ands or buts about it. Do you really truly believe guns were designed to be a tool in a recreational activity...?

Pyro just owned joo. Without guns you'd be a more peaceful country. Nobody needs guns. As stated, they're used to harm or kill, theres no denying this.
Go watch Bowling For Columbine and come back bitchin at how he portrayed everything all wrong, theres jus no escaping some things. There'll always be gun lovers but when it boils down to things, we don't need em.
Theres always other ways............like...kissing..... angel:

Actually there are guns designed specifically for target shooting (a recreational activity). No harm. No kill. There are guns designed to fire smoke cartridges. No harn. No kill. My father used a gun to save his life and never fired it. No harm to anyone, but it saved his life.

A gun is designed to shoot bullets. How you use it says more about your purpose than it does the gun's.

As for us being a more peaceful country without guns, I doubt it.

1. I would be an orphan.
2. Cities that have banned guns have seen an increase in crime.
3. Poverty levels and drug use rates have more to do with crime rates than the amount of guns available.

i have to go with Colonel on this one, he knows his shit and you guys havent provided any proof of your accusations.

I haven't seen proof of the other side as well...still waiting on this .pdf

eek:


http://www.keepandbeararms.com/download ... s_v3.2.pdf


2 seconds on google nub. annoy:

Let's agree to disagree on the purpose of a gun, whether it be for self defense or for mayhem. The fact is where children under 10 are concerned, a child is 100 times more likely to die at a friends house with a pool than at a friends house with a firearm. Should we remove all pools from the populous?

That being said, I don't see a need for the average Joe to possess the firepower shown in the video.

swimming pools are not to kill though, guns are fool.

In case the king of england comes over and bitchslaps the guys daughter obviously. eek:

plzdie:

Well, to those that don't own guns OR have children, really have no basis for a neutral opinion. Thats the funny thing about life...you think you know shit until you're actually in a situation. Know what it's like to be in your 60's? Nope, have no clue unless you've been there.

I couldn't pass fair judgement on deer hunting. I never did it before.

You missed the point you fucking dolt. People were debating whether there were any good uses for guns and whether gun use by kids was responsible or not. I simply pointed out that guns were less dangerous than pools.

Your the 'fucking dolt' who just compared a gun to a swimming pool.


plzdie:

That would be you're not your. Now go fuck yourself. I made my point. The facts are the facts even if you can't wrap your little brain around them.

Did i get on your tits then because you seem mad?

And anyway where are these facts your going on about, you said something about a swimming pool, and gerv posted a pdf file from 'keepandbeararms.com' probaly wrote by mr.heston himself.

But oh well continue your ignorant existence of believing whatever your parents tell you, then go stick your fingers in a blender so you will not be able to type, let alone post here again.

N b4 loct

Your 1337 h4x0ring skills won't save you in real life....













oOo:

The blissful ignorance of a retard is something to admire. LOL at the fact that you still can't figure out the difference between your and you're. Perhaps you should worry about elementary school grammar before delving into matters such as these.

BTW, [url:9e30f]http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22pools+more+dangerou s+than+guns%3F%22&btnG=Search[/url:9e30f]

PS To top it off, you suck at the internet.

your ignorance was the one playing games with your mind, as i was doing it deliberately hence the focus on it with the bold so you would answer back just as you did, typically and ignorantly.

woah a google result hey that totally makes your argument so founded, lets put some more together that make even no more validation to anything ever.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=guns+a ... S:official
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hs=aJX&h ... arch&meta=
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hs=cKX&h ... arch&meta=




sleeping:

[img]http://www.groundforce1.com/forums/images/avatars/37036110443a110a207064.gif[/img] My God, I've been mind fucked by a simpleton. I've got to go now.

Take it easy Corky, I was just having fun with you.calmdown:

My apologies for taking the thread in the crapper.

For anyone interested, read a book called Freakanomics.

Elstatec how could you like cigars and not like guns?

you said it.

sleeping:

because i use a cigar on myself willingly, but its a shame that lil' tomtxrxrrxr cant use a gun on himself

I like cigars, guns, and womens asses...what does that say about me ?

You should join Toni in the mafia?

[quote="mr.miyagi":0d84a]Pyro just owned joo. Without guns you'd be a more peaceful country. Nobody needs guns. As stated, they're used to harm or kill, theres no denying this.
Go watch Bowling For Columbine and come back bitchin at how he portrayed everything all wrong, theres jus no escaping some things. There'll always be gun lovers but when it boils down to things, we don't need em.
Theres always other ways............like...kissing..... angel:[/quote:0d84a]

If guns are not available, they'll simply use something else you doorknobs: availability has never stopped any determined person from doing anything. Why do I bother ??

Agree to disagree ? FUCK NO. That's exactly the kind of attitude that enables politicians to strip you of an increasing number of rights for no other reason than to give you a semblance of safety when the reality is you're no safer than when things started.

Face it: the real problem is a lack of

- intelligence,
- awareness,
- knowledge,
- training,
- consideration,
- respect.

Human nature is a bitch... and until someone comes along with a better solution, firearms have their place as deterrents, on top of their many recreational uses. Oh, and to whoever requested I give them the gunfacts: google it, you lazy fuck. Alternately, it's on canadiangunnutz.com

gun violence is something we have to pay when we live in a free and armed society. that being said i will shoot you all with my big gun.

that looks like fun, man. (the hick firing range)

that you have a penis. now lets hop in a muscle car and run over some weaklings cool:

lol, sounds like fun. oOo:

Out of curiosity how many guns do you own?

If guns were banned only the bad guys would be able to get them, just like drugs. The only people who have them would be criminals, great idea. There wouldn't be any way to logistically get rid of them all or stopping anyone from getting them by illegal means, just as is the problem with drugs. Thinking that we can just throw out all guns and the world would magically become a better place is ignorant.

A black market persists as always.

but the actual legality of a civilian to buy a gun, i mean fair enough if the police would have them to use against force of people who use them aswell, but selling guns to any random hick or dick or harry just adds to the problem.

Clarity of thought and sentence structure are important.

lol

Ignoring what i am saying and focusing on any grammatical errors isnt important, unless you voted for Bush because being ignorant should come natural to you.

I have:
an Auto-Ordnance 1911 .45 cal
a 1936 German Luger that my Dad gave me
a .30-'06 rifle w/scope
and a lever action pellet rifle

Still at my Dad's house, but that he has given to me, I have:
a 20 gauge shotgun
a 12 gauge shotgun
an 18 gauge shotgun
a .410 gauge shotgun
and a .38 cal revolver

(I might not get to keep the .410 since it was really a gift that he gave my sister on her 14th birthday)

at my father-in-law's house (again, he has said they are mine someday) there is:

two matching black powder revolvers (replicas of - 1860 Army Colt and 1851 Navy Colt)
a new Colt SA Army that was given to my father-in-law by the bank he works for when he reached his 50th anniversary with the bank.

a M1 Carbine

a .38 revolver

a .22 revolver

a .410 double-barrel shotgun that is about 50 years old

a .22 lever action rifle

a P-38 pistol

and ... hmmmm ... I guess that's about it. Might be a couple that I missed