Are you banking on them leaving you alone or physically intact because you complied with a few of their demands? Not a good idea, as you assume too much and leave your wellbeing in their hands.

In any situation where your life could be in danger, run if you can: if that's not an option, fight back or die. I would never assume a criminal would leave me unharmed after getting what he/she wants, hence the need for an equalizer.

It's not really about logic: it's about not taking chances with your life by putting your future in their hands.

Sloi you crazy republican. What shit end of Harlem are you living in that you need to carry a gun on you at all times? Some people may need one if they're in a bad area I would imagine, but if you're rich enough to own enough shit to protect with a gun chances are you're not living in an area where you're likely to be robbed. It's every American's right to own a gun, but I don't think you need to carry one on you at all times... if that was even the argument...

Smoke two joints in the morning...

you'd have to actually go outside to do that, you cant point a gun at someone over an internet irc chatroom

you underestimate his ability to make rationale decisions you fat shit. His choice

MY guess is if I pull my gun, his will go off faster, or ill have a knife in my eye..... Better yet he shot misses and hits one of my kids or wife...... in 99 % of the cases you give them what they want and htey leave you.

I'm referring to self-defense in general, not necessarily concealed carry at all times bro. :)

Besides, canadians don't have the right to defend themselves... it's kind of a joke, but it's also true.

[quote="Short Hand":66e41]MY guess is if I pull my gun, his will go off faster, or ill have a knife in my eye..... Better yet he shot misses and hits one of my kids or wife...... in 99 % of the cases you give them what they want and htey leave you.[/quote:66e41]appeasement don't work. [img]http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/historic_figures/images/hitler_adolf.jpg[/img]

[quote="Short Hand":0ec6f]
MY guess is if I pull my gun, his will go off faster, or ill have a knife in my eye..... Better yet he shot misses and hits one of my kids or wife...... in 99 % of the cases you give them what they want and htey leave you.[/quote:0ec6f]

Back up those statistics with hard numbers because last I read, the above was nowhere near true. In any case, you have to use your own judgement, obviously... the point I'm trying to make is that you shouldn't be a sheep all your life. It's important to make a stand and defend yourself instead of being passive and hoping the "bad guy" (who is BAD by definition) won't hurt you.

-I am not being a fucking sheep. I have a backbone. rolleyes: . Your petty insults will not change the fact that I take the logical response in this type of situation. I bet you don't even know of the psycological impact it has on you after you shoot somebody do you... ?

-AND IF he plans on hurting you he will do so and having a gun won't do you any good. He will have already blasted your head in, and have what he wants. MOst muggers use the strong hand tactics and really have little or no intention of hurting you, all they want is your wallet. JUST give it to them, it can be replaced, your life or the lives of those around you can not.

[quote="Short Hand":17526]I bet you don't even know of the psycological impact it has on you after you shoot somebody do you... ?[/quote:17526]

Hypocritcal statement.



For what it's worth, I'm with Solidus on this. It may not be viable to draw a weapon in every scenario, but I would much rather have a gun on me when I would need one because people who don't have one when they need one don't usually live to tell people about it and that kind of biases the statistics towards "the robber won't usually kill you".


Honestly, there's a reason they check for stolen items on dead bodies for possible motives.

I really need to stop drinking.

[quote="Short Hand":3c363]-I am not being a fucking sheep. I have a backbone. rolleyes: . Your petty insults will not change the fact that I take the logical response in this type of situation. I bet you don't even know of the psycological impact it has on you after you shoot somebody do you... ?

-AND IF he plans on hurting you he will do so and having a gun won't do you any good. He will have already blasted your head in, and have what he wants. MOst muggers use the strong hand tactics and really have little or no intention of hurting you, all they want is your wallet. JUST give it to them, it can be replaced, your life or the lives of those around you can not.[/quote:3c363]

Woah, hold on man! I didn't insult you, so don't go crazy on me.

That said...

How I would psychologically deal with shooting someone is irrelevant: if it needs to be done, I would much rather LIVE AND DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES THAN BE DEAD.

You can prefer assuming that your assailant will not hurt you, but I won't make that mistake: if I get the chance, I'm defending myself however the situation permits.

There are arguments for both sides, but I personally prefer the offensive approach to reacting after something has happened: your "tactic" worked WONDERFULLY well for the people in the planes that struck the World Trade Center...

It's a horrible mindset. DO NOT allow yourself to become a victim... FIGHT.

I have been in that situation 3 times. I wish I could have carried at that time. (stabbed twice shot once) Michigan has changed there CCW laws, now it is called a "shall issue" permits which means if you have a clear record you get a permit. Since that law has changes a couple hundred thousand more Michigan residents now are able to carry a weapon.


Since this started guess how many crimes has been commited by a CCW permit carring person??????????





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zero, zip, ziltch, nada, none
not one CCW permit carring person has been commited of a gun related crime. All of the gun crimes are commited by the people that dont obey the laws (go figure?)

[quote="Simo Häyhä":a304b]you underestimate his ability to make rationale decisions you fat shit. His choice[/quote:a304b]

Simo called me fat?! I ruined your internet forum. Go cry.

[quote=Proteus]Simo called me fat?! I ruined your internet forum. Go cry.[/quote:bfcb8]
Seems to me 92b is running fine to me. VC.net was down for a few days. Enjoy beating your virgin dick off, bitch tits happy:

[quote="Simo Häyhä":59dda][quote=Proteus]Simo called me fat?! I ruined your internet forum. Go cry.[/quote:59dda]
Seems to me 92b is running fine to me. VC.net was down for a few days. Enjoy beating your virgin dick off, bitch tits happy:[/quote:59dda]

Ha! Yeah okay, Simo, you think you're the only person on the internet who gets pussy. Is that why you assume you're so cool?

offtopic:

[quote=Proteus][quote="Simo Häyhä":8f331]Seems to me 92b is running fine to me. VC.net was down for a few days. Enjoy beating your virgin dick off, bitch tits happy:[/quote:8f331]

Ha! Yeah okay, Simo, you think you're the only person on the internet who gets pussy. Is that why you assume you're so cool?[/quote:8f331]
you assume too much, fatso. I'm just pointing out to you that women laugh at you whenever you pass by them in the hall. Sucks being you.

[quote=Proteus][quote="Simo Häyhä":df7f2]Seems to me 92b is running fine to me. VC.net was down for a few days. Enjoy beating your virgin dick off, bitch tits happy:[/quote:df7f2]

Ha! Yeah okay, Simo, you think you're the only person on the internet who gets pussy. Is that why you assume you're so cool?[/quote:df7f2]

DROOPY

[quote="Simo Häyhä":43fa1][quote=Proteus][quote="Simo Häyhä":43fa1]Seems to me 92b is running fine to me. VC.net was down for a few days. Enjoy beating your virgin dick off, bitch tits happy:[/quote:43fa1]

Ha! Yeah okay, Simo, you think you're the only person on the internet who gets pussy. Is that why you assume you're so cool?[/quote:43fa1]
you assume too much, fatso. I'm just pointing out to you that women laugh at you whenever you pass by them in the hall. Sucks being you.[/quote:43fa1]

I didn't assume anything in that post you retard. Whatever, you're fucking useless. Pretty tough words for a forum whore, I sometimes wonder what you'd be like in person, probably a big fucking pussy.

[img]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/graphics/2005/10/10/hunderk10.jpg[/img]

LOLTEUS

[quote=Proteus][quote="Simo Häyhä":33a05][quote=Proteus]Ha! Yeah okay, Simo, you think you're the only person on the internet who gets pussy. Is that why you assume you're so cool?[/quote:33a05]
you assume too much, fatso. I'm just pointing out to you that women laugh at you whenever you pass by them in the hall. Sucks being you.[/quote:33a05]

I didn't assume anything in that post you retard. Whatever, you're fucking useless. Pretty tough words for a forum whore, I sometimes wonder what you'd be like in person, probably a big fucking pussy.[/quote:33a05]

weren't you just assuming that simo's assuming he's cool? it boggles my mind when people post comments about one having "no life", or being a big pussy because they post on the internet. do yhou not see the irony?

Proteus is a fat mongolid. A step below Duffy. GTFO of this thread bitchtits

Why the fuck do you keep bringing this up, nobody cares

[quote="Doctor Duffy":84cbc]Why the fuck do you keep bringing this up, nobody cares[/quote:84cbc]
you only wished nobody cared.

[quote="Simo Häyhä":d9f79][quote="Baby-DickGruff":d9f79]Why the fuck do you keep bringing this up, nobody cares[/quote:d9f79]
you only wished nobody cared.[/quote:d9f79]

[quote=yves][quote="Simo Häyhä":abc8c]you only wished nobody cared.[/quote:abc8c][/quote:abc8c]

dance:

Cool kid tag team! I'm doomed!

Yes its like 9th grade all over again for you, chubby

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":e4f31][zero, zip, ziltch, nada, none
not one CCW permit carring person has been commited of a gun related crime. All of the gun crimes are commited by the people that dont obey the laws (go figure?)[/quote:e4f31]

Its the same in VA dude, the people who have the CCW have never had any run ins wit hthe law. I plan on applying for mine soon

sorry but i actually loled out loud on that one.

[quote=Milla]Its the same in VA dude, the people who have the CCW have never had any run ins wit hthe law. I plan on applying for mine soon[/quote:0a38b]
Same. Might be a few years before I will be able to though

lol you're one to talk. stupid:

i bet you dream about GF1

[quote=strvs]lol you're one to talk. stupid:

i bet you dream about GF1[/quote:9162b]

only about you sweetums dance:

[quote="Simo Häyhä":955a8]Yes its like 9th grade all over again for you, chubby[/quote:955a8]

did you not eat in the bathroom your junior year?no fucking room to push people around

[quote=lasagna]did you not eat in the bathroom your junior year?no fucking room to push people around[/quote:4edc4]

That's some strikingly funny news to throw in. I wanted to note the irony.

[quote=Proteus]That's some strikingly funny news to throw in. I wanted to note the irony.[/quote:60d0a]
what???!?

you either deleted it from this thread, or i read it in another one.

http://www.92bengals.com/forum/viewtopi ... c&start=30

i know i read it somewhere forsure