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Arkan 09-07-2002 02:09 PM

[quote="Recycled Spooge":b8dea]I believe China killed its citizens just like Iraq is "doing", and it's the "evil" communist nation, like North Korea which is in the "Axis of Evil". But once again, we have a double standard.[/quote:b8dea]

Good, we got down to just China now. Does China manufacture terrorists bent on using nuclear weapons? No...China has nukes to keep the playing field level. Is the Iraqi government the same as China's?...No, for if it were, Saddam wouldn't be in this predictament.

geRV 09-07-2002 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by intrestedviewer
Actually we had jets without german technology,

Stop comparing to vietnam, That has nothing to do with anything! that time it was fucked up by politics and the people of the united states did not back it up
.

Germans were using jet planes before any other country, most militarys didn't see them as much use because the engines where bulky untill after they seen that germany had a few good jet planes then other countries started to get them built. As for vietnam it was known as the war america couldn't win for good reason, they weren't used to fighting an advesary that used those style of tactics.

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Originally Posted by intrestedviewer
If we want to invade iraQ then good 4 fucking us

A guy called hitler had that same attitude....need i say more?

intrestedviewer 09-07-2002 02:15 PM

We have toy soldiers? ok so we do, but doesnt that mean every country has toy soldiers? Greens that want to just go out there and get some? What makes us a bit different is that our toy soldiers ride in technology.

intrestedviewer 09-07-2002 02:17 PM

Yes but when all is done are we gonna expand our country? are we gonna populate iraq with americans? no, we are gonna give it back to em, a bit more civilized.

geRV 09-07-2002 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by intrestedviewer
We have toy soldiers? ok so we do, but doesnt that mean every country has toy soldiers? Greens that want to just go out there and get some? What makes us a bit different is that our toy soldiers ride in technology.

eek:

If thats the case almost every countrys soldiers ride in some sort of technology. Be it apc's planes tanks jeeps or whatever. How does that make you different?

intrestedviewer 09-07-2002 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerard
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Originally Posted by intrestedviewer
We have toy soldiers? ok so we do, but doesnt that mean every country has toy soldiers? Greens that want to just go out there and get some? What makes us a bit different is that our toy soldiers ride in technology.

eek:

If thats the case almost every countrys soldiers ride in some sort of technology. Be it apc's planes tanks jeeps or whatever. How does that make you different?

our tanks have helicopter engines in em biggrin: , i dunno i was just typing stuf to get in the conversation freak:

SoLiDUS 09-07-2002 02:36 PM

[quote:49d89]Leave the kinpins in place? Perhaps they'll go away on their own??
Using the billions we waste on our TOY ARMY for good use like the poor? Like that is gonna help our battle against terrorism. Ahem, we have a system called "Welfare" to handle just that.[/quote:49d89]

Fighting terrorism is an exercise in futility, but your government isn't
fighting for you anyway... so stop thinking along those lines. Citizen
safety was never on the list: it's all about the Benjamins baby.

I cringe at the sight of you asking me how they both fit hand-in-hand...


EDIT: I apologize; it isn't all about the Benjamins... as some seek power.

SoLiDUS 09-07-2002 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by intrestedviewer
We have toy soldiers? ok so we do, but doesnt that mean every country has toy soldiers? Greens that want to just go out there and get some? What makes us a bit different is that our toy soldiers ride in technology.

That is NOT what I meant by TOY SOLDIER. Please look at one of my
previous posts for that expression's proper definition...

intrestedviewer 09-07-2002 02:56 PM

your saying we wont use our army? eek:

SoLiDUS 09-07-2002 03:03 PM

[quote:3d796]your saying we wont use our army? [/quote:3d796]

Correct.

My contention is that the US of A will never really use it's army anymore...
as life is soooooooooooo precious and soldiers cost way too much to train.
Sufficient proof is available to back up my contention, as it has been quite
obvious for a while; especially lately.

Who knows, maybe they'll actually use the pawns one of these days eh?

intrestedviewer 09-07-2002 03:06 PM

I bet ya 20 bucks against biggrin:

Old Reliable 09-07-2002 03:12 PM

Objects in mirror are closer than they appear

SoLiDUS 09-07-2002 03:28 PM

20 ? You're on biggrin:

Arkan 09-07-2002 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SoLiDUS
[quote:64b82]your saying we wont use our army?

Correct.

My contention is that the US of A will never really use it's army anymore...
as life is soooooooooooo precious and soldiers cost way too much to train.
Sufficient proof is available to back up my contention, as it has been quite
obvious for a while; especially lately.

Who knows, maybe they'll actually use the pawns one of these days eh?[/quote:64b82]

Hey Genius, when did we not use our Army when it was feasible to do so??

geRV 09-07-2002 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Arkan
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Originally Posted by SoLiDUS
[quote:dfe6b]your saying we wont use our army?

Correct.

My contention is that the US of A will never really use it's army anymore...
as life is soooooooooooo precious and soldiers cost way too much to train.
Sufficient proof is available to back up my contention, as it has been quite
obvious for a while; especially lately.

Who knows, maybe they'll actually use the pawns one of these days eh?

Hey Genius, when did we not use our Army when it was feasible to do so??[/quote:dfe6b]

You'r armys basically used as a bargaining tool these days.

Arkan 09-07-2002 04:07 PM

Hey Gerald....since when are you SoLiDUS's speaker? If i wanted your opinion, i would've asked. Oh, BTW, the question still isn't answered!!

geRV 09-07-2002 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Arkan
Hey Gerald....since when are you SoLiDUS's speaker? If i wanted your opinion, i would've asked. Oh, BTW, the question still isn't answered!!

My name is GERARD fucknut fire1:

And i'll reply to your questions if i feel like it.

Arkan 09-07-2002 04:22 PM

Hey Gerald, you know what this is?.....pssssss...ah shit!!, it's on my leg!!
Thats what it's like talking to you!

geRV 09-07-2002 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Arkan
Hey Gerald, you know what this is?.....pssssss...ah shit!!, it's on my leg!!
Thats what it's like talking to you!

eek:

So you enjoy pissing on your leg? Very nice....very relevant as well....

fucking noobs

Old Reliable 09-07-2002 04:31 PM

Gerald hake:

ninty 09-07-2002 04:34 PM

This is about the fuckin funniest shit i've read in a long time. swordfight: biggrin: cry: evil: ed: happy: freak: hake: angel: fire1: M16: eatthis: mwah: cool: bigzooka: zooka: fire2: mad:

Low spark 09-07-2002 04:38 PM

If Cheney/Bush ever do carry out their "preemptive" strike agianst Iraq, then the world is screwed. Next India or Pakistan launch preemtive strikes. We have no right to do any such thing. We have no right to decide who rules where. If we don't like whose in charge some place, too bad. If that country is making weapons of mass destruction, that is bad, but again we have no right to invade a country because of that. If we did, let's do it right. Start by invading China, North Korea, Russia(and all of the old USSR), India, Pakistan, Israel, France, Britian, Columbia, Canada, Mexico, Cuba,,,..... These countries could all be threats to U.S. interests. So why not start taking out the government and putting puppet governments in. Cheney/Bush are a couple of wanna be cowboys. If this bogus war should happen, every other country in the world better start building their defenses up, because you never know, the U.S. might decide that it need to make a preemptive attack against them to protect U.S. citizens.

Innoxx 09-07-2002 05:02 PM

You Americans have to realize that every country/region in the world just doesn't fit nicely into your "American dream" some countries welcome "Americanization" others do not, you guys are basically like the Third Reich, some counrties welcomed Hitler, others did not, and the one's that didn't were deemed enemies. I think the only real threat in this world today are people with too much power in their hands. Another thing, why do we keep bringing bin Laden up? He has no political power. Sept. 11 was a great tragedy, but you can't stop violence with more violence. If America just backed off maybe Saddam might back off too, who knows it might work, it surely hasn't been tried yet. If Saddam strikes another country other than yours you should stay out of it, Vietnam is an example.

Pyro 09-07-2002 05:13 PM

... doens't anyone understand that the really fight is againt the apples

Saddam is just the Apple's Decoy

intrestedviewer 09-07-2002 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Innoxx
If America just backed off maybe Saddam might back off too, who knows it might work, it surely hasn't been tried yet. If Saddam strikes another country other than yours you should stay out of it, Vietnam is an example.

Yes just like europe thought hitler would go away. But noooo he invaded poland. Vietnam is not an example because we kinda were forced into that situation. Stupid frenchys.

Mr.X 09-07-2002 06:35 PM

...these fuckers don't deserve fair play or fair warning.
How about a nice Black-Op that takes out Mecca and Medina during the haj...?
And when the caterwalling and ululating starts it'll be our turn to shrug Saudi style...
and pay a bit of lip service about how bad it was.

Arkan 09-07-2002 08:06 PM

God i hope all Canadians aren't alike!!
I used to like Canada.......thats before the internet came around!!

Innoxx 09-07-2002 08:08 PM

Well, at least im smart enough to know that there are good americans out there, you arkan, are not part of that minority.

Arkan 09-07-2002 08:12 PM

Feelings are mutual !!

Old Reliable 09-07-2002 08:20 PM

Wow this topic is right down the shitter

Totenkopf 09-07-2002 08:22 PM

I say we invade the entire Middle East and start up some death camps. ed:

Mr.X 09-07-2002 08:26 PM

...now yer talkin'!...lets go straight for end-play!
otherwise this pussy-footing around could go on for ever..........

SoLiDUS 09-07-2002 10:09 PM

[quote:fb0e0]God i hope all Canadians aren't alike!!
I used to like Canada.......thats before the internet came around!![/quote:fb0e0]


I will appease your fears right away: most canadians don't have 160+ IQs.
A lot of them resemble americans: dumb, lack of common sense and
easily manipulable. Granted, it isn't as bad as in the US but it's getting
there, as our education system is (well, more and more) a sheep-making
machine.

How do you like all of my generalizations ? Dude, just because a few forum
users from Canada don't agree with your tainted views, you shouldn't build
up a biased point of view about another country. The irony ? I do it myself.
I guess I'm a hypocrite... but I have to say I've met some really smart ppl
from the US too.

Tell you what; I'll drop my biased view of americans if you do the same.
Feel like trying it ?

Pyro 09-07-2002 10:11 PM

... ya ... thats about it.

09-07-2002 10:14 PM

I still havent seen any prove why we should attack Iraq.
As far as I'm concerned Saddam has brought stability to Iraq, if his regime is to collapse what would be happen to all those chemical weapons.....?

Gone. They would dissapper. IT would be like the Soviet Union when it collapsed all those nerve gases and weapons were sold in the black market at extremely cheap prices.

But then again its you American that makes the decision for your country so its not any of my problem. If it would lead to America's eventual downfall due to ignorant sheeps who dont know how to spell "rest of the world" fine thats ok with me as long as I'm happy and living a good life.

SoLiDUS 09-07-2002 10:20 PM

Dats wut I'm sayin' dawg! Keep'n'it real!

*sips a good mouthful from forty-zee*

Ah shit son, dats da werkz right GYEA! Wanna
pass dat weed homeboy ?

Pyro 09-07-2002 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SoLiDUS
Dats wut I'm sayin' dawg! Keep'n'it real!

*sips a good mouthful from forty-zee*

Ah shit son, dats da werkz right GYEA! Wanna
pass dat weed homeboy ?

werd

Innoxx 09-07-2002 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by intrestedviewer
Quote:

Originally Posted by Innoxx
If America just backed off maybe Saddam might back off too, who knows it might work, it surely hasn't been tried yet. If Saddam strikes another country other than yours you should stay out of it, Vietnam is an example.

Yes just like europe thought hitler would go away. But noooo he invaded poland. Vietnam is not an example because we kinda were forced into that situation. Stupid frenchys.

Saddam is not hitler, he is nothing like him, at first america supported hitler. Hitler was a guy who was invading europe in an american's eyes. You wanted nothing to do with him, until japan attacked pearl harbour. The point is saddam did not knock down the world trade center, saddam did not think on a large scale like hitler did, saddam does not have an army that could hold its own against nearly half of the nations in the world, Saddam doesn't not have any allies that pose a big threat. How were you forced into vietnam, why were those american ships in the gulf of tonkin? i say america should stick to her own affairs, or she will be burned, badly..... again.

SW-14 09-07-2002 11:45 PM

It's kinda hard to stay into your own affairs if you're a major world power like the U.S. is. People would be whining that the U.S. isn't doing anything to help them should anything ever happen.

Pyro 09-07-2002 11:46 PM

[quote="SW-14":5a785]It's kinda hard to stay into your own affairs if you're a major world power like the U.S. is. People would be whining that the U.S. isn't doing anything to help them should anything ever happen.[/quote:5a785]

just ignore them


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