if it were built from great britain's, then you would be ruled by a king or queen, is that so?

Different times Trip, different times.

We celebrate mistakes? no one told me. eek:

[quote="Old Reliable":05cc3]hypocricy and lies? lol! most of your own country's ideals are built from america's.......still wanna make that statement? [/quote:05cc3]

I can't believe that anyone could be so cocky.

Tripper, you're cool and everything, but you're a god damn fool.

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First off, our country was founded on the Articles of Confederation, which didn't work out well and then we established the Decleration of Independence.

But I do agree with you about the slave part. I could write an essay on why we allowed slaves in our country after the American Revolution...

Have you ever heard of Amendments?? These so called "Amendments" is what keeps our country what it is today. Ever heard of the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendment? Huh? These Amendments freed slaves and gave them the right to vote and be a citizen of the US of A.

I know we've made mistakes, but we later fixed them. So don't go off preaching shit about us being based on "complete lies and hipocracy".

[quote="pfc Green":d5961]Different times Trip, different times.[/quote:d5961]

Yeah. My point still stands...That doesn't change anything.

[quote="Pfc Green":d5961]We celebrate mistakes? no one told me. [/quote:d5961]

You celebrate the 4th of july don't you? Sure you're celebrating independence. But you're also celebrating the ideals of men who thought slavery was just.

well if you really want to get down to that and try and change history, go ahead

That's all I meant about the lies and hypocracy thing. I was refering to merely slavery. Nothing else.

Some of you are so blindly patriotic. At least you can admit some things.

Im not saying my ancestors were angels...They were british too.


I always wonder why americans didn't abolish slavery when the british did.

hey we all have our own beliefs, just because you celebrate the 4th of july doesnt mean you support slavery

[quote=Tripper]Yeah. My point still stands...That doesn't change anything.

[quote="Pfc Green":de8c0]We celebrate mistakes? no one told me. [/quote:de8c0]

You celebrate the 4th of july don't you? Sure you're celebrating independence. But you're also celebrating the ideals of men who thought slavery was just.[/quote:de8c0]

Man I did'nt know you were so anti-U.S., anyway We are celebrating Independence ONLY not slavery. When the U.S. became indepented slavery was still a common practice around the world (it still is in some places) and was a generally accepted practice, true we kept the practice going far to long (infact we should have ended it when we gained independence) Your point is'nt valid, the times do have major bearing on the situation.

slavery was just the way it was in the 1700's and 1800's... it was the way they lived their lives back then... sure it was wrong and thats why our nation has changed...

seriouslly, you patriotic americans need to get that pickle out of your ass and figure out that half the shit you say is bullshit

you are not perfect...Tripper is more right about your shit thenyou guys think you are.

No one here said we were perfect, the U.S. is very far from it.

lol and this comes from a a teenaged canadian who would never say that to my face

the problem would be if you cared...why would you care if I said that

You would punch me for having an opinion...is that the american way?