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Your right on him being in "Spy Game" good catch!

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Dasher:
Well all they have to do is watch the film and they will see it's not 1 in the same!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ok, now this is unusual it shouldn't even be an argument. it's quite obvious they are the same guy, that's why all the suspense was going on between him and Upham. Upham, without doubt saved willie's life when they captured him. Anyone who says they are not the same guy, i have one question for you...
How did he know Upham's name? eh? answer that one.

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Watch the film again.Willie and the SS soldier that killed Mellish are not 1 in the same.Willie couldn't kill a fly unless he was in a group of soldiers,Willie had no guts.After the SS soldier killed Mellish he walks right past Upham on the steps and Upham is shaking in his boots.
In the final closing scenes at the bridge when Upham is in the ditch and the german soldiers rush to the edge of the bridge he notices Willie and see Willie shoots Tom hanks character,then the p-51's start bombing destroying the Tiger tank,the German soldiers start running away in fear.Upham stands up and captures the group with willie with them and he shoots willie.

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ITS the same guy!... because upham spared his life at the radar station he spared uphams life on the steps...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Lorenz:

Ok, now this is unusual it shouldn't even be an argument. it's quite obvious they are the same guy, that's why all the suspense was going on between him and Upham. Upham, without doubt saved willie's life when they captured him. Anyone who says they are not the same guy, i have one question for you...
How did he know Upham's name? eh? answer that one.

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well, the guy that said uphams name before he got his ass shot by upham is indeed, most definitely the same guy cpt. miller let go..upham shot him in disgust because he witness him shoot miller (the same guy that let him go...watch that scene)..now the guy that stabbed mellish, then started comin down the stairs never, NEVER, said uphams name..the only reason why he let him go was because upham stood down, and he didn't have a gun (although he might as well have stabbed him, but he left his knife in mellish)..trust me guys, i fought hard in an argument sayin they were the same..i took a close look, and the definitely are not..i'll break it down:
1. steamboat willy: wermacht uni, the guy they let go at the radar station
2. cut to the guy stabbin mellish..SS uniform..doesn't call out uphams name comin down the stairs..this is the last we see of him
3. then steamboat will (after bein thrown back in rotation), still sporting the wermacht uniform comes into frame with a bunch of other footsoldiers as they lay down fire with their k98's..
4. upham witness willy shoot miller in the chest (if you watch that scene, upham looks horrified)..after the artillery strikes soar over and the foot soldiers flee, upham pops out..
5. in a twist of irony (and they were all over the place) he lets the other soldiers go and keeps willy pinpointed with his M1..
willy says "Upham"...BANG!
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You are right but I think some people have their signals mixed on what were talking about.

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ARGH...ok here's the solution for your little problem:
as you can see on the left i'm german and "steamboat willie" is a quite popular actor here in germany.the guy stabbing mellish in the house is definitely NOT steamboat willie!upham shoots "willie" because he's one of the guys who shoot at tom hanks on the bridge.watch the movie and maybe you'll recognize willie in the little group shooting at hanks

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Dasher:

You are right but I think some people have their signals mixed on what were talking about.

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ya..i think that's the main problem..

oh, i stand corrected on one part of my argument...upham doesn't let the soldiers go then shoot willy..he shoots willy, then lets the other go..still ironic though http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by KangSa:
Clever...But if you actually think about it it's not the case. Why did Upham at the end shot that specific German but let go the others? Because he saw how he stabbed Mllish and shot the other Americans without mercy, and he also regret of letting him loose when they had a chance to shoot him. Conclusion: So the message the movie's trying to tell us is 'take no prisoners, shoot or get shot at'

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no he saw miller gettin shot by steamboat willie so he killed him for that.

what did Willie say in german when he had his hands up in the air? i speak a little german and it seemed to me that he was saying something to the effect that he's not a real soldier and something else?

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