[quote=Madmartagen][quote="Garry Coleman":f7bec]first of all, abortion wasn't around during the middle ages.[/quote]
There were abortions and birth control going as far back as ancient greece, egypt and rome. Though they werent as widely used as they are today, they were legal because no one had decided to pass laws against them.
[url="http://www.filebox.vt.edu/users/jherron/abortion.htm"]http://www.filebox.vt.edu/users/jherron/abortion.htm[/url]
http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/sci/A0856467.html
http://www.rencentral.com/feb_mar_vol2/ ... ages.shtml

Also, if you want to take this into account, early humans would smother or abandon babys born in the winter in order to make sure the tribe would survive. That isnt an excuse, but... oOo:[/quote:f7bec]you had the right idea about me talking about legalized abortion. The Catholic Church has never supported any form of abortion in modern society.

edit: the last source talks about abortions, but it refers to prostitutes having abortions. Prostitutes were damned since they had sex out of marriage.

[quote="Garry Coleman":ce7d6][quote=Madmartagen][quote="Garry Coleman":ce7d6]first of all, abortion wasn't around during the middle ages.[/quote]
There were abortions and birth control going as far back as ancient greece, egypt and rome. Though they werent as widely used as they are today, they were legal because no one had decided to pass laws against them.
[url="http://www.filebox.vt.edu/users/jherron/abortion.htm"]http://www.filebox.vt.edu/users/jherron/abortion.htm[/url]
http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/sci/A0856467.html
http://www.rencentral.com/feb_mar_vol2/ ... ages.shtml

Also, if you want to take this into account, early humans would smother or abandon babys born in the winter in order to make sure the tribe would survive. That isnt an excuse, but... oOo:[/quote:ce7d6]you had the right idea about me talking about legalized abortion. The Catholic Church has never supported any form of abortion in modern society.[/quote:ce7d6]

then why support killing other humans in meaningless wars?

[quote=Pyro]you had the right idea about me talking about legalized abortion. The Catholic Church has never supported any form of abortion in modern society.[/quote:1a776]

then why support killing other humans in meaningless wars?[/quote:1a776]what the fuck kind of religous wars are you talking about?? Don't get the Catholics and Muslims mixed up here child oOo:

[quote="Garry Coleman":f4d3e][quote=Madmartagen][quote="Garry Coleman":f4d3e]first of all, abortion wasn't around during the middle ages.[/quote]
There were abortions and birth control going as far back as ancient greece, egypt and rome. Though they werent as widely used as they are today, they were legal because no one had decided to pass laws against them.
[url="http://www.filebox.vt.edu/users/jherron/abortion.htm"]http://www.filebox.vt.edu/users/jherron/abortion.htm[/url]
http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/sci/A0856467.html
http://www.rencentral.com/feb_mar_vol2/ ... ages.shtml

Also, if you want to take this into account, early humans would smother or abandon babys born in the winter in order to make sure the tribe would survive. That isnt an excuse, but... oOo:[/quote:f4d3e]you had the right idea about me talking about legalized abortion. The Catholic Church has never supported any form of abortion in modern society.[/quote:f4d3e]

Yeah, but are you going to live your life by what the Catholic Church says? They change their dogma all the time.

edit: the last source talks about abortions, but it refers to prostitutes having abortions. Prostitutes were damned since they had sex out of marriage.

wtf?? who edited my post?

you had the right idea about me talking about legalized abortion. The Catholic Church has never supported any form of abortion in modern society.[/quote:e00a2]

then why support killing other humans in meaningless wars?[/quote:e00a2]what the fuck kind of religous wars are you talking about?? Don't get the Catholics and Muslims mixed up here child oOo:[/quote:e00a2]

Ah...Catholics are no worse than muslims.

Madmartagen, the answer is Yes, i will live my life according to what the Church says. That's the whole idea of being Catholic...

I beleive a mother would have the moral obligation to herself to not kill this thing. Have the bab y and give it for adoption. If you have ever seen what they do to a baby" not a fucking fetus, its a living thing. THey have the right but why would anyone morrally do it ?

1 the drain the uterus
2 they pump it full of salt water to steralize the womb and partially stings the baby as well.
3 they first crush the baby killing it slowly, painfully the baby feels every single moment of this.
4 they cut the baby up in the womb into hundreds of peices.
5 the doctor takes each peice out at a time
6 he peices the dead baby back together to make sure he got all of the baby parts.
7 womb is pumped clean of salt water.

Thats a typical abortion in most clinics. Disgusting yes. Think of your self now if you wish to commit this act. Its going to be on your mind for life.

I adhere the women has the right, but I also hope she has the mind to deal with it. Becasue Abortion isnt as "humane" as you would love it to be.

[img]http://www.ezl.com/~goldsmith/lions/abortion.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.priestsforlife.org/resources/monica/m20.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.priestsforlife.org/resources/monica/m64.jpg[/img]

Here are some graphic pictures of that salt abortion that Short hand was talking about... [url:acf73]http://www.priestsforlife.org/resources/dc/index.htm[/url:acf73]

here are some more graphic pictures as well. [url:acf73]http://www.priestsforlife.org/resources/abortionimages/[/url:acf73]














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[quote=Pyro]omg protestants you believe in somethings we don't...die you mother fuckers...DIE LETS KILL YOU NWO!!!!!!!! KILLING is fun...but letting a baby die is wrong but i can kill millions because my god says it's ok becasuse I interpret things the wrong way and my religion is the msot hypocritical and corrupted piece of shit in the world.[/quote:93ad7]

Wtf Pyro? Have you turned anti-christian all of sudden?

How much do you know about our religion anyways? You said in another thread that the Bible was hypocritical. If you "know" so much, please tell me where...

And yes I am against abortion; Bastards mad: , I don't know how anyone could do such a thing.

honestly it the type of thing that brings me to tears if i think of it to hard.

[quote=Pyro]you had the right idea about me talking about legalized abortion. The Catholic Church has never supported any form of abortion in modern society.[/quote:40f0d]

then why support killing other humans in meaningless wars?[/quote:40f0d]

If we didn't go to war, ever, there probably wouldn't even be a world today.

[quote=snipes]then why support killing other humans in meaningless wars?[/quote:60221]

If we didn't go to war, ever, there probably wouldn't even be a world today.[/quote:60221]

explain....

[quote=snipes]then why support killing other humans in meaningless wars?[/quote:09177]

If we didn't go to war, ever, there probably wouldn't even be a world today.[/quote:09177]

those wars weren't about Germany wanting to take over the world...it was just about tiny differences in "faith".

What does looking at dead fetus's look any worse than dead bodies killed for no reason in murders in our countries every year?

[quote=Quze]If we didn't go to war, ever, there probably wouldn't even be a world today.[/quote:84393]

explain....[/quote:84393]

Well, If the U.S. or any of the allies didn't rise up to go to war against the axis, they practically would've destroyed our world as we know it wouldn't they?

I mean "destroyed" in many different ways, I don't just mean just firepower-wise (It is possible nowadays), but I mean our world is corrupted enough in greed for power and money, all I'm trying to say is that if "the good guys" had lost any wars they had won, or just didn't bother to go to war altogether (surrendered), the world could've taken many different and many worse paths that could have led to the fall and corruption of our own race long ago.

Pyro the point is we can stop abortion morally, It is not a ideal to kill something to make your life more convient. It is stopable and unlike war does not need death for a simple solution.