i think that shooting people is the worst thing to do lets have alien or animal blood bath for once! ok? Like lets make cat hunter or Medal Of Horseshit:alein assalt

many ppl are wrong. and guess what dumb dumb, there were many in japan who still didn't want to surrender after the bombs were dropped.

ur a typical america hater...[QUOTE]Originally posted by RSColonel_131st:
[B]IAh, and about the A-Bombs...there's a good evidence that Pr. Rosevelt had info that the Japanese Empire wanted to surrender BEFORE the drop, but he had to bring his point across to the russians. Many people belive that even without A-Bombs, there would have been no ground war on the main island...but the IJA would have surrendered.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RSColonel_131st:
Ah, and about the A-Bombs...there's a good evidence that Pr. Rosevelt had info that the Japanese Empire wanted to surrender BEFORE the drop, but he had to bring his point across to the russians. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I am not taking sides in an argument as contoversial as this... but I do believe the A Bombs were MORALLY wrong...

But, excuse the nitpick, wasn't Pr. Roosevelt dead when the decision was reached to drop The Big One ?

Wasn't it, What's his name, Um, Mumbly Joe, Saw him on TV the other....

TRUMAN!

it was morally right to drop the bombs and save hundred of thousands of lives. try to think with logic and not with passion and things will work out for the better. and yes roosevelt was dead. rscolonel just to like make up history as he goes along...typical <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Von Paulus:

I am not taking sides in an argument as contoversial as this... but I do believe the A Bombs were MORALLY wrong...

But, excuse the nitpick, wasn't Pr. Roosevelt dead when the decision was reached to drop The Big One ?

Wasn't it, What's his name, Um, Mumbly Joe, Saw him on TV the other....

TRUMAN!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RSColonel_131st:
I suggest some people grow a brain here, and get over it.

War isn't nice, to no one, and today there's a new generation of Japanese People. Leaders in High Tech...much of the stuff you daily use comes from there. Stop the rasistic remarks.

Ah, and about the A-Bombs...there's a good evidence that Pr. Rosevelt had info that the Japanese Empire wanted to surrender BEFORE the drop, but he had to bring his point across to the russians. Many people belive that even without A-Bombs, there would have been no ground war on the main island...but the IJA would have surrendered.

I know this forum is frequented by a hellish lot of 12 year-olds, and I guess you can still learn something. I just hope you dont stick at the level of Global Education you have now. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Totally bullshit. Yeah you heard me, this is bull. Elementary school girls to women are ALL trained to use a sharpened bamboo stick, what for? THEY RAN OUT OF AMMO BUT ARE STILL UNWILLING TO SURRUNDER BECAUSE THEIR EMPEROR DIDN'T TELL THEM TO DO SO! The only reason they give up is because Hirohito told them the war is lost after the second A-Bomb. Don't put your own assumption into history. Learn, don't make things up


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u r a dumbasss

firstly I aint a fan of america. I actually think they suck in many many ways.

Saying that dropping A Bomb on japan was Morally wrong, is idiotic. And comparing it to the systematic killing/rapping/tourtureing of civilians is even more idiotic.

There is a slight difference between :
A) dropping a bomb on a city to win a war that could go on for a few more years.

and

B) Going around killing/tourturing/raping civilians.


Anyone who say's it was morrally wrong. All I hear is wingeing and crying. I dont here any alternatives? what would you of done instead....?

and as for the originator of the thread.

How old are you 15..16. Your parents probably werent even born during the war, what reason do you have to hate japs? It was quite a while ago now.

And while your on that, what about the american indians? Taste of your own medicine?


If everyone keeps looking at the past we wont have a future. Maybe eveyrone should be looking at working out the problems now rather then haveing a sook about what's already happend. make sure it doesnt happen again.

For people who were in the war, or born during it I completely understand why they would hate japs, and have absolutely no problem with it.

But for everyone else, I think, its a bit much to say you hate them. There is no legitemate reason.

[This message has been edited by dazzlarr (edited January 30, 2002).]

Freakaloin your a racist plain and simple just admit it,you'll feel a whole lot better!
Your topic proves it and all you have been shoveling is Bullsh*t!


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[This message has been edited by Dasher (edited January 30, 2002).]

Sorry von Paulus, I'm not an american myself, so I tend to mix up your presidents.

However, the fact remains that there is evidence about a possiple surrender of the japanese army without the Bomb.

There is also some wide-spread evidence that some ppl in america KNEW that Perl Harbour would be attacked, but needed the moral boosting effect of this.


Oh, and for our slightly retared friend Freakaloin...

I'm not an america hater, as you put it...quite the oposite. Stating facts doesn't mean I hate something.

But I'll stop arguing with you then, because I dont think you are educated enough for this kind of disscusion. Have a nice day at school, and I sincerly hope you dont miss the short bus on your way home.

RSColonel_131st, the politicians may wanted to surrender but the army would have fought to the death.
Politicians and army are 2 differnet species my friend.



[This message has been edited by zxcvnm (edited January 30, 2002).]

There is true story...

4 Japanese Special Soldiers where brought to aN Island and told to hold the positon there, as well as to conduct guerilla warfare against the americans.

They where forgotten...in 1970, one of them was STILL fighting, stealing fish and other foods from the natives...he was very desparate, he juist didn't know the war was over.

However, as soon as the americans found his old officer, they brought him there, and the soldier accepted the order to surrender.

Japanese military training was very focused on orders and honor. I think that the army would have surrendered if ordered by their imperator.

Ah well, that is moot speculation. I just wanted to show our friend freaky that there is more than black/white thinking. Hope he gets it.

what are u ppl insane? i heard a number of times here ppl saying that the japs were worest than the germans well japs might killd more thoso were the crimes of the soldiers not the orders of the goverment the naziz made camps,made it leagel,made it an obligation to kill the minoratys and all for the purety of the race and the japs might of killd a shit load of ppl but it wasn't an order to go and kill every chinese u see and don't think i am saying this just becuase of my realigon this is a fact and trust me if what the japs did was much worse than they would of been shown as the biggest murderes of history americans would of made sure of that (as u can see americans love's the japs)

it proves nothing, and ur just the type who thinks anyone who doesn't speak politically correct about ppl other then whites is a racist. typical moronic liberal(socialist) pyschobabble... <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dasher:
Freakaloin your a racist plain and simple just admit it,you'll feel a whole lot better!
Your topic proves it and all you have been shoveling is Bullsh*t!

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i'm 32 years old. i have an uncle who was tortured in china by the japanese. i also had an uncle who was a pow in germany(but he was treated well). american indians? lol the strong survived there. too long ago for me to care much anyways... <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dazzlarr:



How old are you 15..16. Your parents probably werent even born during the war, what reason do you have to hate japs? It was quite a while ago now.

And while your on that, what about the american indians? Taste of your own medicine?


[This message has been edited by dazzlarr (edited January 30, 2002).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

the fact remains that there is eveidence? lol nice statement dumb dumb. the is much more evidence that japan wanted to continue to fight after the bombs were dropped and in fact many ppl killed themselves instead of accepting surrender. look into it history boy. lol not educated enuff...do u know how many degrees i have? i doubt it, but it's prolly at least 2 more then u...lol <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RSColonel_131st:


However, the fact remains that there is evidence about a possiple surrender of the japanese army without the Bomb.

There is also some wide-spread evidence that some ppl in america KNEW that Perl Harbour would be attacked, but needed the moral boosting effect of this.


Oh, and for our slightly retared friend Freakaloin...

I'm not an america hater, as you put it...quite the oposite. Stating facts doesn't mean I hate something.

But I'll stop arguing with you then, because I dont think you are educated enough for this kind of disscusion. Have a nice day at school, and I sincerly hope you dont miss the short bus on your way home.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>