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Akuma 10-29-2004 01:41 PM

[quote="Duke_of_Ray":73ba7]
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Originally Posted by m1ck97
going back to the bible.

It says that after the world was created and plants, humans and animals were created all in 7 days (animals and humans on the last day i believe) Scientific EVIDENCE has found creatures (Dinosours etc) to have been alive before humans. Acording to these scientists Humans evolved after dinosours.

also scientists have scientific EVIDENCE of our ansesors (a monkey type animal).

I will admit, I do not understand, and do not pretend to understand everything in the Bible. Maybe days were measured different long ago, who knows. Maybe science is wrong, you know that is possible. As for the scientific evidence that The Duke came from a monkey, they could not give me all the money in the world to believe that.[/quote:73ba7]

7 days is obviously symbolic, just like everything else in the bible. When they say god created Earth is 7 days they aren't talking about a week. There is no mention of time. Therefor 7 days could = 12 billion years.

Anyone who takes the bible literally has a serious mental problem. Both christians and athiests do it. annoy:

Duke_of_Ray 10-29-2004 01:44 PM

[quote=Akuma]
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Originally Posted by "Duke_of_Ray":faab5
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Originally Posted by m1ck97
going back to the bible.

It says that after the world was created and plants, humans and animals were created all in 7 days (animals and humans on the last day i believe) Scientific EVIDENCE has found creatures (Dinosours etc) to have been alive before humans. Acording to these scientists Humans evolved after dinosours.

also scientists have scientific EVIDENCE of our ansesors (a monkey type animal).

I will admit, I do not understand, and do not pretend to understand everything in the Bible. Maybe days were measured different long ago, who knows. Maybe science is wrong, you know that is possible. As for the scientific evidence that The Duke came from a monkey, they could not give me all the money in the world to believe that.

7 days is obviously symbolic, just like everything else in the bible. When they say god created Earth is 7 days they aren't talking about a week. There is no mention of time. Therefor 7 days could = 12 billion years.

Anyone who takes the bible literally has a serious mental problem. Both christians and athiests do it. annoy:[/quote:faab5]

I take it very literally. DO I have mental problems? Probably yes, but not because of that.

Akuma 10-29-2004 01:46 PM

[quote="Duke_of_Ray":ca355][quote=Akuma]
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Originally Posted by "Duke_of_Ray":ca355
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Originally Posted by m1ck97
going back to the bible.

It says that after the world was created and plants, humans and animals were created all in 7 days (animals and humans on the last day i believe) Scientific EVIDENCE has found creatures (Dinosours etc) to have been alive before humans. Acording to these scientists Humans evolved after dinosours.

also scientists have scientific EVIDENCE of our ansesors (a monkey type animal).

I will admit, I do not understand, and do not pretend to understand everything in the Bible. Maybe days were measured different long ago, who knows. Maybe science is wrong, you know that is possible. As for the scientific evidence that The Duke came from a monkey, they could not give me all the money in the world to believe that.

7 days is obviously symbolic, just like everything else in the bible. When they say god created Earth is 7 days they aren't talking about a week. There is no mention of time. Therefor 7 days could = 12 billion years.

Anyone who takes the bible literally has a serious mental problem. Both christians and athiests do it. annoy:[/quote:ca355]

I take it very literally. DO I have mental problems? Probably yes, but not because of that.[/quote:ca355]

Well then you've defeated the purpose of the bible and you'll live your life following a broken religion with false ideals. sleeping:

Duke_of_Ray 10-29-2004 01:53 PM

[quote=Akuma][quote="Duke_of_Ray":70dcc]
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Originally Posted by Akuma
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Originally Posted by "Duke_of_Ray":70dcc
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Originally Posted by m1ck97
going back to the bible.

It says that after the world was created and plants, humans and animals were created all in 7 days (animals and humans on the last day i believe) Scientific EVIDENCE has found creatures (Dinosours etc) to have been alive before humans. Acording to these scientists Humans evolved after dinosours.

also scientists have scientific EVIDENCE of our ansesors (a monkey type animal).

I will admit, I do not understand, and do not pretend to understand everything in the Bible. Maybe days were measured different long ago, who knows. Maybe science is wrong, you know that is possible. As for the scientific evidence that The Duke came from a monkey, they could not give me all the money in the world to believe that.

7 days is obviously symbolic, just like everything else in the bible. When they say god created Earth is 7 days they aren't talking about a week. There is no mention of time. Therefor 7 days could = 12 billion years.

Anyone who takes the bible literally has a serious mental problem. Both christians and athiests do it. annoy:

I take it very literally. DO I have mental problems? Probably yes, but not because of that.[/quote:70dcc]

Well then you've defeated the purpose of the bible and you'll live your life following a broken religion with false ideals. sleeping:[/quote:70dcc]

I defeated the purpose of the Bible? The Bible is God's word, like a map for life. No I have not defeated the purpose of the Bible, infact I do not follow it enough. As for me following a religion that is broken and full of false ideas, I believe you are wrong. I follow a God who came to save us, not a bunch of rituals and regulations that if I do not abide by, or preform I will die and go to hell. I follow a God of love, one that sent his Son to die for us. Now you can believe what you want, I feel that you are very wrong, but to say I follow a broken religion is a load of crap that you have no bases for.

Akuma 10-29-2004 02:08 PM

A bunch of currupt scribes' interpretation of God's word. That's not saying much once you think about it. There are many ways to interpret the bible.

I don't have a problem with Christianity. But people who blindly live their lives by a bunch of ancient symbolic stories and taking them as fact, I do have a problem with. I'm not going to try to change your ways, it obvious that you are too stubborn to accept reality.

One question though. Where does it says that God DIDN'T make all the world THROUGH evolution?

Duke_of_Ray 10-29-2004 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Akuma
A bunch of currupt scribes' interpretation of God's word. That's not saying much once you think about it. There are many ways to interpret the bible.

I don't have a problem with Christianity. But people who blindly live their lives by a bunch of ancient symbolic stories and taking them as fact, I do have a problem with. I'm not going to try to change your ways, it obvious that you are too stubborn to accept reality.

One question though. Where does it says that God DIDN'T make all the world THROUGH evolution?

I never God did not make the world through evolution. I do believe there is some forms of "evolution". Though it does not say God made a creature which turned into man. I do not blindly live my life. I am a very skeptical person, so when I blieve something, I truly believe it. I do not follow these stories becuase I am afraid of going to hell, but because of the truth I feel is behind them. Also they are not symbolic, but lessons, and in my opinion ture ones at that. They are also a history of what hass happend. I have accepted reality, it is just some people are afraid to accept the truth.

Akuma 10-29-2004 02:19 PM

[quote="Duke_of_Ray":ac172]
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Originally Posted by Akuma
A bunch of currupt scribes' interpretation of God's word. That's not saying much once you think about it. There are many ways to interpret the bible.

I don't have a problem with Christianity. But people who blindly live their lives by a bunch of ancient symbolic stories and taking them as fact, I do have a problem with. I'm not going to try to change your ways, it obvious that you are too stubborn to accept reality.

One question though. Where does it says that God DIDN'T make all the world THROUGH evolution?

I never God did not make the world through evolution. I do believe there is some forms of "evolution". Though it does not say God made a creature which turned into man. I do not blindly live my life. I am a very skeptical person, so when I blieve something, I truly believe it. I do not follow these stories becuase I am afraid of going to hell, but because of the truth I feel is behind them. Also they are not symbolic, but lessons, and in my opinion ture ones at that. They are also a history of what hass happend. I have accepted reality, it is just some people are afraid to accept the truth.[/quote:ac172]

Why would other animals evolve but not humans?

I don't want to push the bible story stuff any further. We both have out seperate views.

Duke_of_Ray 10-29-2004 02:21 PM

[quote=Akuma]
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Originally Posted by "Duke_of_Ray":015eb
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Originally Posted by Akuma
A bunch of currupt scribes' interpretation of God's word. That's not saying much once you think about it. There are many ways to interpret the bible.

I don't have a problem with Christianity. But people who blindly live their lives by a bunch of ancient symbolic stories and taking them as fact, I do have a problem with. I'm not going to try to change your ways, it obvious that you are too stubborn to accept reality.

One question though. Where does it says that God DIDN'T make all the world THROUGH evolution?

I never God did not make the world through evolution. I do believe there is some forms of "evolution". Though it does not say God made a creature which turned into man. I do not blindly live my life. I am a very skeptical person, so when I blieve something, I truly believe it. I do not follow these stories becuase I am afraid of going to hell, but because of the truth I feel is behind them. Also they are not symbolic, but lessons, and in my opinion ture ones at that. They are also a history of what hass happend. I have accepted reality, it is just some people are afraid to accept the truth.

Why would other animals evolve but not humans?

I don't want to push the bible story stuff any further. We both have out seperate views.[/quote:015eb]

Don't know, ask God. Your right, lets just agree to disagree.

Can I get a lock????

Zen 10-29-2004 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Akuma
... But people who blindly live their lives by a bunch of ancient symbolic stories and taking them as fact, I do have a problem with.

[img]http://www.groundforce1.com/forums/images/avatars/139444906413211bb7e80b.jpg[/img]

I found that ironic. No offence, I love you Akuma.

Duke, If you are done with the thread just stop posting in it, it doesn't have to be locked to signify your final words on the matter. And if it makes you feel better Duke, fact is there is no 100% proof that you evolved from a monkey... chances are pretty good, but no solid proof.

Duke_of_Ray 10-29-2004 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Zen
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Originally Posted by Akuma
... But people who blindly live their lives by a bunch of ancient symbolic stories and taking them as fact, I do have a problem with.

[img]http://www.groundforce1.com/forums/images/avatars/139444906413211bb7e80b.jpg[/img]

I found that ironic. No offence, I love you Akuma.

Duke, If you are done with the thread just stop posting in it, it doesn't have to be locked to signify your final words on the matter. And if it makes you feel better Duke, fact is there is no 100% proof that you evolved from a monkey... chances are pretty good, but no solid proof.

Heh, sorry thought Akuma and I were the only ones still screaming. By all means carry on. :)

Akuma 10-29-2004 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Zen
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Originally Posted by Akuma
... But people who blindly live their lives by a bunch of ancient symbolic stories and taking them as fact, I do have a problem with.

[img]http://www.groundforce1.com/forums/images/avatars/139444906413211bb7e80b.jpg[/img]

I found that ironic. No offence, I love you Akuma.

One small difference. I accept the stories for what they are: symbols and alligories.

Obviously they aren't made to taken literally.

ninty 10-29-2004 05:34 PM

The bible isn't meant to be taken literally. They are stories to explain life, and the way to live out your life.

If you believe that Adam and Eve actually existed, and I know MANY people do including my grandmother (she takes the entire bible literally, and is stubborn about it), then you = oOo: in my mind. Same goes for all the other stories, parables and fables in the bible.

Maplegyver 10-29-2004 05:45 PM

small pensi

Akuma 10-29-2004 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ninty9
The bible isn't meant to be taken literally. They are stories to explain life, and the way to live out your life.

If you believe that Adam and Eve actually existed, and I know MANY people do including my grandmother (she takes the entire bible literally, and is stubborn about it), then you = oOo: in my mind. Same goes for all the other stories, parables and fables in the bible.

Exactly what I said.

ninty 10-29-2004 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Akuma
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Originally Posted by ninty9
The bible isn't meant to be taken literally. They are stories to explain life, and the way to live out your life.

If you believe that Adam and Eve actually existed, and I know MANY people do including my grandmother (she takes the entire bible literally, and is stubborn about it), then you = oOo: in my mind. Same goes for all the other stories, parables and fables in the bible.

Exactly what I said.

Yah, I know. I meant to put: "I'm going to reiterate everything Akuma said" at the top of my post. happy:


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