She's right though...this wasn't World War I or 2 or anything...it was a war that shouldn't of been fought in the first place, therefore her son died for no reason.

so when's your bus leaving for texas? got your signs painted?

did you even read the other posts you filthy canadian bacon mounted homosexual?

it has NOTHING to do with fighting a justified or unjustified war ...

well that's your opinion.

And Poseidon: You can't possible appreciate him as much as someone who actually values what he sacrificed himself for because you don't value what he was doing, you can never value his efforts as much as someone who belveives in what he died for, that it was for a purpose. By saying this war was bullshit, it's saying that he died for a bullshit reason instead of dying trying to protect his country. It would be logically impossible for an anti-war person to value what he did more than someone who supports the war.

That's why this woman is pissed off. Her son died for what SHE thinks is a bullshit reason. She can't value his sacrifice as much as someone else because she doesn't think it was valid. I'm sure she would like to value his sacrifice, and she would have, had he actually died protecting his country from an actual threat.

You can still appreciate that he died despite it. He died because he initially joined the army to protect his country. Even if this particular war he was sent too was unjustified.


and Pyro....I wouldn't use WW1 as an example of a justified war if I were you.

you guys seem to forget the he RE-INLISTED to go to iraq.

why would someone that didnt support the war RE-INLIST to get sent to iraq?

He also volunteered go on a resuce mission to help some fellow soldiers that had been ambushed.

I dont think his mother speaks for him in ANY WAY !!!!

If that's the case - Then I agree that she should shut the fuck up. She's saying stuff that her son obviously didn't agree with if he re-inlisted deliberately to go to Iraq.

the rest of her family doesn't agree with her either. They issued a statement saying that she was acting differently and that the rest of the family continues to support the troops and president bush. Her husband also filed for divorce

there is something very strange about this woman and her actions. I'd like to see her bank statements

I heard that but figured it was because of purely political reasons - Now I'm beginning to think she might be a few pubes short of a bush.

All in all i'll pull out the good ol' saying:

"Its a free country"

Say what you will, I doubt it will sway her mind that a bunch of people on a washed forum think otherwise.

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2005/08/a ... alist.html

Army Specialist Casey Sheehan - Someone You Should (Have) Know(n)

Casey Sheehan grew up in a devout Catholic home. He served as an altar boy and then as a key member of his church's youth group for years.

When he was old enough, Casey joined the Boy Scouts, becoming the very second Eagle Scout out of his troop.

He enlisted in the Army when he was twenty years old. He decided to be a mechanic. He would undergo Combat Lifesaver training - a class on how to give IVs and treat trauma only second in intense learning to combat medic training. He was also certified to assist with giving communion to soldiers while in the field.

Specialist Sheehan re-enlisted in the Army in 2004 knowing full well that he could be sent into a combat zone.

Casey Sheehan was a Humvee mechanic with the 1st Battalion, 82nd Field Artillery Regiment.

On April 3rd, 2004, forces loyal to Shi'ite cleric Muqtada al'Sadr stormed police stations and government offices in Sadr City (a city of over 2 million). They knew the Americans would come, and they wanted a fight. Muqtada Sadr was working them up into a religious frenzy. And he had his thugs murder anyone who he thought might stand in his way - even other Shi'ite clerics. His forces were known as the Mahdi Army.

American forces quickly surrounded Muqtada al'Sadr's quarters.

On April 4th, 2004, al'Sadr's Mahdi forces blocked roadways and bridges with burning tires, vehicles and trash. Visibility was less than 300 meters anywhere in the city. They began to attack American vehicles on patrol throughout Sadr City - some were protecting Shia worshipers (Holy Arbayeen) while others were escorting city government vehicles.

A battle raged across Sadr City. Insurgents assaulted American troops while looters and mobs formed and stormed through the streets. Word spread quickly across the American FOBs that there was trouble.

Soldiers of the 2nd Battalion, 5th Cavalry Regiment were ambushed with RPGs and pinned down and dying. While fighting off an attack himself, the Commander of the 2/5th, LTC Volesky, called for help. A Quick Reaction Force (QRF) was formed of volunteers - their mission was to go out and rescue the American troops.

Casey Sheehan's Sergeant asked for volunteers. Sheehan had just returned from Mass. After Sheehan volunteered once, the Sergeant asked Sheehan again if he wanted to go on the mission. According to many reports (and according to his own mother), Casey responded, "Where my Chief goes, I go."

The QRF was launched. Not long after entering the Mahdi area, the QRF was channeled onto a dead-end street where the roofs were lined with snipers, RPGs, and even some militia throwing burning tires onto the vehicles. The Mahdi blocked the exit and let loose with everything they had.

Sheehan's vehicle was hit with multiple RPGs and automatic-weapons fire.

Specialist Casey Sheehan and Corporal Forest J. Jostes were killed.

A second QRF was formed - all volunteers - to go rescue the first. Specialist Ahmed Cason was hit in the second QRF - but kept fighting until he bled to death.

Seven men died with Casey Sheehan on Sunday, April 4th, 2004.

They were Spc. Robert R. Arsiaga, Spc. Ahmed Cason, Sgt. Yihjyh L. "Eddie" Chen, Spc. Stephen D. Hiller, Spc. Israel Garza, Cpl. Forest J. Jostes, and Sgt. Michael W. Mitchell.

It was Palm Sunday.

Palm Sunday commemorates the day that Jesus entered Jerusalem. Back then, the palm frond was a symbol of victory - laid beneath the feet of those of the highest honor and triumph. Some believe it was this honor fit for a king that forced Jesus's enemies to act and crucify him.

In recognition of Casey, the Catholic Chapel at Fort Hood, Texas (where Sheehan was stationed) named the Knights of Columbus chapter the "Casey Austin Sheehan Council".

Casey also received the Bronze Star for his Valor that day.

i like this pretty much sums the whole casey sheehan story military wise. i hope this helps clear up some people ideas of what happened and how he chose to re-inlist.

It seems none of you know about re enlistment bonuses for signing up.. Not to mention all the promises the army gives you for re-enlistment.. Skills etc etc..... There are MANY other reason for re-enlisting other then the fact "I support the war so I plan on going back to fight for its cause"....... I doubt very much he went back to fight Terrorism and your idea of a justified war.. He went back for all those guys who fought down in the dirt with him. Not you, nor your fear of Terrorism.. He went back for them. Period.

No, I don't think that's true. I know it sounds manly and all to say that it was for the people he fought in the dirt for, but it sounds like he and his family supported the war.

And who cares about re-enlistment bonuses, he knew what he was getting into when he re-enlisted, it doesn't matter WHY he did it, the fact is he did, and he was aware of the possible consequences.

So your saying he went back to fight some Satan like Enemy in the mddle East ? because maybe he thought they actaully did pose a threat ? I find any person with a half sense of decent knowledge knows the "threat' that "once thought to be existed" in Iraq NO longer exists.. and for a matter of fact never did. So I find it hard for a man to go back and fight for a cause that has become so elusive as this one is. So Ill place my bet that this man came back for them. Not to fight the war's cause. rolleyes:

Specialist Sheehan re-enlisted in the Army in 2004 knowing full well that he could be sent into a combat zone.

thats shoots hole in your theory shorthand .. did you even read the story?

he also fucking volunteered to go in with QRF. rolleyes: