wow... this is gonna be good! cant wait for it to be out! but of course, take your time

Yeah it's about a quarter of a mile I think, I might try and make it bigger, but I want to make sure if I have too many brushes or not (means if I have too many textures, FPS is gonna be in the shitcan, etc. hake: ).

Oddball, would you be willing to compare and contrast our maps when I'm done? eek:

If Oddball can, we'll make some sort of name for all of us, cuz a lot of this shit wasn't only done by myself, and about 40% of mappers look at the readme (not including me, lol). Basicly, we'll have a name that'll be on the loading screen; it doesn't sound to good if we say "Pointe du Hoc, By Havoc_covaH, Legend, Superkat, and Oddball.woof". So trow in some idears for our group name. cool:

Havoc_covaH

Name Suggestions...
 

How bout "Eazy Co." or "Easy Co."? Or "De Hocs"? :) or maybe even the proud 65th........ "THE BORINQUENEERS"!!!(Who were legends in Korea)
Maybe "The Green Eyed Boys", for any of you that knows what that means?....... or

"Godsmith"- Makers (in this case, of war maps) that are so skilled, they can make the "the gods"
"Veteran 8th" (ot whatever number)
"Screaming Eagles"-Airborne Division in Normandy
"Havoc's Howlers"- This is from the old war comics, Sgt.Fury and the Howling Commandos
"Eagle Eyes" -Expression for talented sniper, "Eagle Eye", good sight
"GoW" (Gods of War)
Even though some of these may seem cheesy, they are just ideas everyone cool:

Legend

group name continued...
 

OR the
++++"Bravados,"
++++"the boys of Company C," (or a,b,d,e)
++++"Los Tres Amigos"-very unlikely though
++++"Amerikanisch Judgend" - not sure if spelling is correct, but it means "American youth" in German
++++"Hell's Angels", or "Killer Angels" biggrin: biggrin: biggrin:

Legend

Hi
 

Sure mate we can compare, I suspect you'll be finished before me though as every step I can is being researched for Historical, i wont say accuracy but how about spirit?
As for names the Official Name for my map is 'Operation Bigot', the historical code name for the assault.

One of the reasons the assault on Omaha nearly failed was the necessity of launching from 12 miles out for fear of the guns on Pointe Du Hoc thus the urgency and dire need for the operation. If the recon had revealed that a) half the guns were not installed yet and the aerial photos misled planners by mistake telegraph poles for the shadows of the guns and the those guns in place prior to Dday were moved to the rear area only the night before. The impact of losing the DD tank might have been avoided, the drain of the long appraoch to Omaha could have been shortened and better off shore support and quicker response might have resulted.

The importance of the PDH assault is often overlooked when compared to the scale of the near disaster of Omaha, an numbers involved in the other assaults, that it proved on the day less vital than was thought has removed much of the focus upon the key event, as key as the airbourne landings at Pegasus and elsewhere were in securing the actual ability of forces to land at all.

names ummmmmmmm off the top of my head.......

Rudder's Run
Rudder's Rangers
Op 155 Allied Assault
Op 155
Six Keys to DDay
Six Keys
Up and Over (Eddie Wearing LOL u youngsters won't know what that means)

....By the Allied Assault Forum Cooperative INC.

Climb to Victory

.......BY the PDH.AAFI

200ft up into Hell .......the actual height of cliff ecapes me at the moment!


Oddball .......Woof! Woof!

"just think them positive waves Baby"



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Hard to make up my mind on names. We could just put HLSO (the beginning letters of our AA names). Or we could have a name from the 2nd Ranger Btln. that stormed PTH. Maybe something corporate type like the International Battle Recreation Team (IBRT). We won't have to worry about the names till we get done with the map, but I was just letting everyone know to write them down for a little work of your own. Don't come up with anything too offtopic like Los Tres Amigos, lol biggrin: (I'm not hackin on ya or anything, Legend, you understand cool: ).

Yep, a lot of stuff got f***ed up during the invasion. But recon and all that wasn't as advanced as it is now, which is why we have been "successful" in large scale military campaigns since the Gulf War.
Youngsters? You in college or somethin, Oddball?

Superkat and friends, evil:

anyway do u have any screnshots and I thought that a good idea would to have the players start in a higgins boat just like in Omaha in SP, so then it would really realistic and kick ass. ed:

zooka:

My own Multiplayer problems...
 

In multiplayer, on gamespy, I sometimes experience problems like game crashes, and my slow connection. Is it because I have listed a wrong connection type, and what can I do about the crashing? Please help...friends

Legend

LOL College.......hehehe
 

Mature student possibly lets just say I remember watching Neil Armstrong step onto the moon live.

POINTE DU HOC
Ranger Monument

To reach the Pointe du Hoc Ranger Monument (15), now maintained by the American Battle Monuments Commission, follow the CD direction signs west along D 514 to the car park outside the monument (8 km).

The Pointe du Hoc today retains much of its battlefield character because of the destruction left by the rain of bombs and shells the Allies unleashed to neutralize this rocky point. The much feared battery was bombed three times before D Day, then hit from the air again that morning. The battleships Texas and Arkansas battered the area with their 14- and 12-inch guns just after dawn. Later in the morning, the destroyer Satterlee saturated the position with her 5-inch guns in direct support of the Rangers. This concentration of fire left craters and ruined casemates which forty years have yet to erase.

From the barbed-wire fence along the cliff top, you can look down the hundred-foot cliff to the east beach where three companies of the 2d Ranger Battalion, commanded by Lieutenant Colonel James E. Rudder, landed on D Day. Their mission was to scale the cliff, then silence the six 155-mm howitzers thought to threaten the landing operations on both American beaches.

The Rangers came in forty minutes late in ten LCA's, trailed by four DUKW's and two supply boats. They lost one of each boat type on the run in. The LCA's were equipped with rocket-propelled grappling hooks which were fired as the boats grounded under the cliff. Despite small-arms fire, improvised mines, and grenades lobbed from above, the Rangers used their rope and aluminum ladders to scale the cliff within five minutes of landing. Ironically, they found the casemates empty of guns, which days before had been moved to new positions further inland. Later that morning, a patrol found the 155s unguarded and spiked them. Colonel Rudder then set up a defensive perimeter and waited for reinforcements. "Located Pointe du Hoc," he managed to signal V Corps that afternoon, "mission accomplishedÑneed ammunition and reinforcementÑmany casualties." Those reinforcements were to have come from Rangers of the 2d and 5th battalions waiting offshore. Because Rudder's assault was late, the Rangers assumed that it had failed and landed instead on Omaha Beach. It took them two days to fight their way overland to Rudder's relief. By then, his force had been reduced to about ninety effectives. Rudder received the Distinguished Service Cross for continuing to lead his men, although twice wounded.




by Michael H. Frederick and Joseph F. Masci for World War II Magazine

On the morning of June 6, 1944, 10 landing craft, assault vessels (LCAs) containing three Ranger companies headed for Pointe-du-Hoc to undertake one of D-Day's most dangerous missions. The Allied seaborne effort was to be preceded by the Rangers, whose objective was to prevent wholesale slaughter by a German battery whose guns could be zeroed in on the American landing beaches.

Not all went according to plan for the Rangers in Normandy, however. Much of the equipment that had been perfected specifically for the assault did not stand up to the rigors of combat. Each LCA contained six rocket launchers that were supposed to propel grappling hooks and ropes over the edge of the cliff. But the ropes became soaked from the heavy seas and coated with slimy clay during the pre-invasion bombardment, and many failed to reach the cliff top when fired. Even those that did reach the top were slippery and hard to climb. That the Rangers were able to scale the cliff under those conditions and under fire is a tribute to their excellent conditioning and competitive drive.

Another disappointment on D-Day was the ladder-equipped DUKW (amphibious truck) that Staff Sgt. Jack Kuhn had worked on. The idea was to drive the DUKWs onto the shale beach at low tide and raise extension ladders right to the edge of the cliff. One DUKW included a dual Lewis machine-gun mount at the top of the ladder, which was to be raised while the DUKW was still offshore and spray the summit with automatic fire while the Rangers were scaling the cliff. Unfortunately, the choppy seas caused considerable yaw to the DUKW, resulting in Sergeant William Stivison's fire having practically no effect on the German defenders. The pre-invasion bombardment had left enormous craters across the beach along the waterline, making it impossible for other DUKWs to come ashore.

In the end, it was the training, courage and tenacity of the Rangers that carried the day. Their experience emphasized the need to concentrate on the basic infantry principles of fire and maneuver and to avoid complicated technical experiments. Less than two hours after the Ranger assault, the guns near Pointe du Hoc were inoperable.

can't really suggest anything Legend
 

Without more specific info.

Where do I find the screenshots, Superkat? I'm not even sure if I did it right. I already put some allied spawn points inside the H boats. I could possibly make some DUKW's, but I doubt it, lol.

What kind of connection do you have, Legend (56k, DSL, CABLE, etc.)? Mine crashes too, and my ping occasionally spikes; not sure why. Maybe we have too many pk3's or something. It's crashed so many times that when the sound of the disk being read stops, I immediately curse the computer, then it brings up a little cute icon saying "We're sorry, the program you were running has shut down, please tell Microsoft this problem..." or some shit like that. It usually happened with too many players, so I started joining rooms of 18 to 23 players; that should lower the your chances of crashing. Slow connection may be due to blood mods, sound mods, basicly mods, maybe you have Norton Anti-Virus running automatically, phone is ringing, or you're simply SOL (Shit Out of Luck).

Oh I see, mature student cool: , I'm like one of the few at my school. But anyway, whether or not you're older or younger than us, I still have respect for you. Good, now that I know where the car in the parking lot is, I won't get lost in Pointe du Hoc! I saw this bad ass model of the Omaha Beach fortifications; this thing shows almost everything in a nutshell. [img]omahadiagram[1][/img].

Havoc_covaH

connection
 

Havoc, I have cable connection. Maybe the reason why this is happening to me is that I'm running MoH:AA multiplayer on my older computer, instead of my newer, bigger one. I have to do this because my good, or newer and bigger computer, doesn't have internet. cry:

Legend

Havoc
 

just noticed your in Moscow, wow!
I went there on a school trip in 1976 LOL Leningrad and Sochi too.

Worry about the frills after the basics of the map are done lads.
That link to Omaha fortifcatios isn't working just paste in the url.
I have recently done alot of work on the rear area orchard, which I am basin roughly on the Band of brothers scene where they assault the guns off Utah beach.
So although I dont think there were trenches in the orchard I have put some there to add to the game play.

Completed 90% Fire Contol Bunker.

Need: ladders/ropes for angled cliff....tricky
personnel bunker/ammo bunker
Farm house area
Sorting the ocean textures..tricky to get right, need a wave action with, beach run up.
Bocage roads need tidying.

pictures
 

[img]http://www.oddball.woof.dsl.pipex.com/images/PDH/FCBnTrenches.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.oddball.woof.dsl.pipex.com/images/PDH/orchard.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.oddball.woof.dsl.pipex.com/images/PDH/gundefender.jpg[/img]

ed: wow