why don't u post some information from a non-liberal site, (like a legitamate media outlet like fox, cnn, or msnbc) thats actually repoorting on the news and not just some unpatriotic bastard rambling about why he hates bush.

okay, keep believing that... eek:

edit : yes there are people over there that hate us....but its not 90%...maybe...20% if that...

[quote="Tool-back":186d3]Uhh Ninty9 the "War on Terror" wasn't just the war with Al Queda and Taliban. When Bush gave his speech on the war on terror, he made it very obvious that it would include nations that harbored terrorists.[/quote:186d3]

Synira(sp) Iran, Indonisia, NK.. the list goes on.

[quote="Cpt. Zapotoski":aa687][quote="General Cobra":aa687][quote=ninty9]THe war on terrorism was to rid Al Quedia and Taliban. Saddam Hussein is neither. I didn't say he wasn't a terrorist, I said the Iraq war is not the war on terrorism.

Anyway, you people are hopeless and i'm not going to change any minds, and your not going to change mine. I feel sorry for you though, being mislead.[/quote]

Well you are mislead by thinking the war on terror is limited to Al Quedia and Taliban.[/quote:aa687]

Took the words out of my mouth.

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Ninty9, get out of that igloo of yours and get an education, because you are one dumb kid.[/quote:aa687]

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[quote=1080jibber][quote="General Cobra":042ea]Its in the American media all the time. The fact that people say it isnt just shows they dont watch the news. The only dif is we aren't the BBC so we cant show an iraqi shaking adead baby by it's leg at the camera.

When i was in the hospital I watched cnn everyday during the war and I saw a ton of reports of the USA mistakingly bombing places they shouldnt have. America fucks up a lot no question. But no other country has the BALLS to dislodge a communist from killing his own people. They just sit back and watch. FRANCE GERMANY CANADA go ahead and sit back and spit. But we have the honor to still fight for you if you ever needed it. Something you will never understand.[/quote:042ea]


why did you just say Canada just sits back, Canada played by the rules, and if the U.S. did the same, then Canada would be there in Iraq with them[/quote:042ea]

Yeha yeah and what rules are those? Sit back and watch people be killed and tortured by their leader until we have a nice little trial where we can decide whether we will help or sit back? I don't mean to say canada sits back and wont help Canada just has their own views that I respect. What I dont respect is the ignorace being shelled out towards America. The only thing those countries ever do is follow us if the cause doesn't get shit on. \
America is willing to do what it takes. War is hell. If you can't take the good with the bad and vise versa then back the fuck up and let someone who will.

[quote="Cpl. Eames":67308]why don't u post some information from a non-liberal site, (like a legitamate media outlet like fox, cnn, or msnbc) thats actually repoorting on the news and not just some unpatriotic bastard rambling about why he hates bush.[/quote:67308]

[quote:67308]like a legitamate media outlet like fox, cnn, or msnbc[/quote:67308]

BAHWWWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAH

THATS FUNNY MAN! biggrin: biggrin: biggrin: biggrin: biggrin:

You would know, right?

lets not get on this USA vs Canada fucking thing again

stay on topic

and you would know 90% of them hated america and the west?! thats just rediculous

[quote:74d37]and you would know 90% of them hated america and the west?! thats just rediculous[/quote:74d37]


Didn't you basicly just say to drop this whole thing and to keep on topic?

*eats pizza*
*watches close*
*eyes glazed*

[quote=ninty9][quote="Cpt. Zapotoski":e34ed][quote="General Cobra":e34ed][quote=ninty9]THe war on terrorism was to rid Al Quedia and Taliban. Saddam Hussein is neither. I didn't say he wasn't a terrorist, I said the Iraq war is not the war on terrorism.

Anyway, you people are hopeless and i'm not going to change any minds, and your not going to change mine. I feel sorry for you though, being mislead.[/quote]

Well you are mislead by thinking the war on terror is limited to Al Quedia and Taliban.[/quote]

Took the words out of my mouth.

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Ninty9, get out of that igloo of yours and get an education, because you are one dumb kid.[/quote:e34ed]

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With your socialist goverment and extremely high taxes funding your education, its suprising that there isnt more then 60% of the population who went to college.

but....

that still doesn't make your statements right, its obvious they were wrong just get over your arogrance and anti americanism (which i dont understand why you hate america so much, i think your just trying to deny the fact that canada is america jr)

[quote="Tool-back":42c5f]Uhh Ninty9 the "War on Terror" wasn't just the war with Al Queda and Taliban. When Bush gave his speech on the war on terror, he made it very obvious that it would include nations that harbored terrorists.[/quote:42c5f]

why aren't we going after the guerillas in the Phillippines and South America? They kidnap US citizens and demand ransom, extortion is a type of terrorism.

What about Aryan Nations and the KKK? Domestic terrorists are just as much a threat, maybe even more so because they live here.

[quote=ninty9][quote="Cpt. Zapotoski":9e58a][quote="General Cobra":9e58a][quote=ninty9]THe war on terrorism was to rid Al Quedia and Taliban. Saddam Hussein is neither. I didn't say he wasn't a terrorist, I said the Iraq war is not the war on terrorism.

Anyway, you people are hopeless and i'm not going to change any minds, and your not going to change mine. I feel sorry for you though, being mislead.[/quote]

Well you are mislead by thinking the war on terror is limited to Al Quedia and Taliban.[/quote]

Took the words out of my mouth.

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Ninty9, get out of that igloo of yours and get an education, because you are one dumb kid.[/quote:9e58a]

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I never said Canada had a terrible schooling system, I said YOU should get an education. Kind of proves how blinded and self-centered you are.

You might want to correct yourself on that terriost comment above. Again, it proves how IGNORANT you are to say that terroists are only Taliban and/or Al-Queda. Get out of that igloo and learn a few things, kid.

[quote="Cpl. Eames":8c952][quote=ninty9][quote="Cpt. Zapotoski":8c952][quote="General Cobra":8c952][quote=ninty9]THe war on terrorism was to rid Al Quedia and Taliban. Saddam Hussein is neither. I didn't say he wasn't a terrorist, I said the Iraq war is not the war on terrorism.

Anyway, you people are hopeless and i'm not going to change any minds, and your not going to change mine. I feel sorry for you though, being mislead.[/quote]

Well you are mislead by thinking the war on terror is limited to Al Quedia and Taliban.[/quote]

Took the words out of my mouth.

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Ninty9, get out of that igloo of yours and get an education, because you are one dumb kid.[/quote:8c952]

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With your socialist goverment and extremely high taxes funding your education, its suprising that there isnt more then 60% of the population who went to college.

but....

that still doesn't make your statements right, its obvious they were wrong just get over your arogrance and anti americanism (which i dont understand why you hate america so much, i think your just trying to deny the fact that canada is america jr)[/quote:8c952]

When has ninty9, or any other Canadian on this fourm said that they hate America?

[quote="General Cobra":8c952][quote=1080jibber][quote="General Cobra":8c952]Its in the American media all the time. The fact that people say it isnt just shows they dont watch the news. The only dif is we aren't the BBC so we cant show an iraqi shaking adead baby by it's leg at the camera.

When i was in the hospital I watched cnn everyday during the war and I saw a ton of reports of the USA mistakingly bombing places they shouldnt have. America fucks up a lot no question. But no other country has the BALLS to dislodge a communist from killing his own people. They just sit back and watch. FRANCE GERMANY CANADA go ahead and sit back and spit. But we have the honor to still fight for you if you ever needed it. Something you will never understand.[/quote:8c952]


why did you just say Canada just sits back, Canada played by the rules, and if the U.S. did the same, then Canada would be there in Iraq with them[/quote:8c952]

Yeha yeah and what rules are those? Sit back and watch people be killed and tortured by their leader until we have a nice little trial where we can decide whether we will help or sit back? I don't mean to say canada sits back and wont help Canada just has their own views that I respect. What I dont respect is the ignorace being shelled out towards America. The only thing those countries ever do is follow us if the cause doesn't get shit on. \
America is willing to do what it takes. War is hell. If you can't take the good with the bad and vise versa then back the fuck up and let someone who will.[/quote:8c952]


here's a kids website for you
[url:8c952]http://www.kidzworld.com/site/p1462.htm[/url:8c952]

what do you think the United Nation is?

Stryker

Maybe becuase you can only do so much at once? Who's to say we won't do anything about that? We're just going for the bigger threats first.

[quote="Cpt. Zapotoski":b5eff][quote=ninty9][quote="Cpt. Zapotoski":b5eff][quote="General Cobra":b5eff][quote=ninty9]THe war on terrorism was to rid Al Quedia and Taliban. Saddam Hussein is neither. I didn't say he wasn't a terrorist, I said the Iraq war is not the war on terrorism.

Anyway, you people are hopeless and i'm not going to change any minds, and your not going to change mine. I feel sorry for you though, being mislead.[/quote]

Well you are mislead by thinking the war on terror is limited to Al Quedia and Taliban.[/quote]

Took the words out of my mouth.

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Ninty9, get out of that igloo of yours and get an education, because you are one dumb kid.[/quote:b5eff]

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I never said Canada had a terrible schooling system, I said YOU should get an education. Kind of proves how blinded and self-centered you are.

You might want to correct yourself on that terriost comment above. Again, it proves how IGNORANT you are to say that terroists are only Taliban and/or Al-Queda. Get out of that igloo and learn a few things, kid.[/quote:b5eff]

Will you shut the fuck up already, no one lives in an Igloo. Generaly Speaking, of course.

I find this incredibly funny. C'mon guys keep it coming.

[quote=1080jibber][quote="General Cobra":61522][quote=1080jibber]
why did you just say Canada just sits back, Canada played by the rules, and if the U.S. did the same, then Canada would be there in Iraq with them[/quote:61522]

Yeha yeah and what rules are those? Sit back and watch people be killed and tortured by their leader until we have a nice little trial where we can decide whether we will help or sit back? I don't mean to say canada sits back and wont help Canada just has their own views that I respect. What I dont respect is the ignorace being shelled out towards America. The only thing those countries ever do is follow us if the cause doesn't get shit on. \
America is willing to do what it takes. War is hell. If you can't take the good with the bad and vise versa then back the fuck up and let someone who will.[/quote:61522]


here's a kids website for you
[url:61522]http://www.kidzworld.com/site/p1462.htm[/url:61522]

what do you think the United Nation is?[/quote:61522]

you have a good point, if the administration didn't make up shit about Saddam having nuclear bombs ready to bomb us/give to terrorists, we could have approved this whole operation through the UN on the basis of Saddam's human rights violations, but instead Bush screwed the pooch and now we have trouble finding allies to help rebuild and provide peacekeepers.

Even if we secure Iraq, Bush will undoubtedly find a way to fuck up (like saying something stupid that will get the Iraqis pissed off at us and start a revolt)

[quote="Sgt Stryker":91179][quote="Tool-back":91179]Uhh Ninty9 the "War on Terror" wasn't just the war with Al Queda and Taliban. When Bush gave his speech on the war on terror, he made it very obvious that it would include nations that harbored terrorists.[/quote:91179]

why aren't we going after the guerillas in the Phillippines and South America? They kidnap US citizens and demand ransom, extortion is a type of terrorism.

What about Aryan Nations and the KKK? Domestic terrorists are just as much a threat, maybe even more so because they live here.[/quote:91179]

because of the clinton era military cutbacks and downsizing that we're paying for right now with 87 billion dollars in increased military spending, our active duty military isnt nearly as large as it once was...most of our military numbers come from reserves and national gaurd units now, we would need something like a draft to fight the war on terrorism effectivly on multiple fronts, thats why we have to do it one country at a time for now.

Sgt Stryker, you hit the nail on the head.

[quote="Sgt Stryker":07bfb][quote=1080jibber][quote="General Cobra":07bfb][quote=1080jibber]
why did you just say Canada just sits back, Canada played by the rules, and if the U.S. did the same, then Canada would be there in Iraq with them[/quote:07bfb]

Yeha yeah and what rules are those? Sit back and watch people be killed and tortured by their leader until we have a nice little trial where we can decide whether we will help or sit back? I don't mean to say canada sits back and wont help Canada just has their own views that I respect. What I dont respect is the ignorace being shelled out towards America. The only thing those countries ever do is follow us if the cause doesn't get shit on. \
America is willing to do what it takes. War is hell. If you can't take the good with the bad and vise versa then back the fuck up and let someone who will.[/quote:07bfb]


here's a kids website for you
[url:07bfb]http://www.kidzworld.com/site/p1462.htm[/url:07bfb]

what do you think the United Nation is?[/quote:07bfb]

you have a good point, if the administration didn't make up shit about Saddam having nuclear bombs ready to bomb us/give to terrorists, we could have approved this whole operation through the UN on the basis of Saddam's human rights violations, but instead Bush screwed the pooch and now we have trouble finding allies to help rebuild and provide peacekeepers.

Even if we secure Iraq, Bush will undoubtedly find a way to fuck up (like saying something stupid that will get the Iraqis pissed off at us and start a revolt)[/quote:07bfb]

some one with a brain, and i mean that too

Stop with all the quotes , it makes it hard to read what you are saying......

Well I'm gonna go do something more interesting like say ...watching paint dry.

It's simple Ninty9... there is no way our military is going to fight the war on terror in 5 different countries. It's not possible right now with the size of our military like Eames said.

Can you comprehend that, EH?

[quote="Cpt. Zapotoski":afb62]It's simple Ninty9... there is no way our military is going to fight the war on terror in 5 different countries. It's not possible right now with the size of our military like Eames said.

Can you comprehend that, EH?[/quote:afb62]

What is with you and all the fucking sterotypes? Hell, I guess Eames is inbred and his wife is his cousin, caz ya'll know hes from the South, and that's what happens down there! YEE HAW!

[quote="Sgt Stryker":6f764]
you have a good point, if the administration didn't make up shit about Saddam having nuclear bombs ready to bomb us/give to terrorists, we could have approved this whole operation through the UN on the basis of Saddam's human rights violations, but instead Bush screwed the pooch and now we have trouble finding allies to help rebuild and provide peacekeepers.

Even if we secure Iraq, Bush will undoubtedly find a way to fuck up (like saying something stupid that will get the Iraqis pissed off at us and start a revolt)[/quote:6f764]

Like who else would be in iraq with us? Because last time I checked our REAL allies are already there, you know great britian and the common wealth (excluding canada because of the frenchman leader), countries like poland and romania, etc are also there because they know how precious freedom is, they know what its like to be opressed, and they also know the united states is doing whats right. The French, the Germans, and the Russians would never have went to war with iraq simply because of the amount of money the sadam regime owed them!! They knew that once sadam was gone they would never recieve the millions of dollars sadam owed them and lets not forget they would lose their illeagal lucrative oil trade with iraq which was in direct violation of economic sanctions put on iraq. The real reason France, Germany, and Russia didn't want to topple sadam purely and simply was because of economic reasons and you all know it, their bs excuses about un aproval is just a pathetic excuse to try and cover up their illeagal dealings with iraq. The United states goverment has an obligation to its people now to supress all threats now before they can materialize, this is why we pre-emptivly attacked iraq, and its why we will most likley pre-empmtivly attack other countries in the future, we simply cant afford to sit back and wait for another 9-11 style attack to happen again, before we do take action.

Whats with you being a stupid fuck jumpin' in on other peoples arguements?? eek:

Ninty9 stereotypes Americans ALL THE TIME so I'll do my part and stereotype Canadians.

EH!?

..well duh innoxx, that convieniently glosses over the fact that "the current situation" means that all attempts
at re-building the country are being voilently undermined by fundamentalist/al queda forces. eg: the Iraqi people
want law and order and their own non baa'thist police force, al queda says no you can't have that and we will kill you ourselves if you try.

If the US and allies were actually able to reconstruct without being bombed every day, I'm sure
the Iraqi people would see rapid change for the better, and that 90/10% ratio would be reversed.

They could then be left in peace to get on with tearing each others throats
out over who's a sunni and who's shi'ite, but that's another story.

[quote="Cpt. Zapotoski":71c3e]Whats with you being a stupid fuck jumpin' in on other peoples arguements?? eek:

Ninty9 stereotypes Americans ALL THE TIME so I'll do my part and stereotype Canadians.

EH!?[/quote:71c3e]

Well.. You stereotype Canadians, and I'm a Canadian. so thus, it's my buisness.

[quote=Quze]What is with you and all the fucking sterotypes? Hell, I guess Eames is inbred and his wife is his cousin, caz ya'll know hes from the South, and that's what happens down there! YEE HAW![/quote:c72ed]

this is offtopic, but if your going to use stereotypes use a correct one...the imbred southerners are backwater hillbilles...I live in Tampa....a city...remember we won the superbowl last year?

[quote:59aee]The United states goverment has an obligation to its people now to supress all threats now before they can materialize, this is why we pre-emptivly attacked iraq, and its why we will most likley pre-empmtivly attack other countries in the future, we simply cant afford to sit back and wait for another 9-11 style attack to happen again, before we do take action.[/quote:59aee]

Eames just hit the nail on the head, right Ninty9 !?

Eames proved a vaild point on why the US invaded Iraq without "proper justification" according to the forum genius Ninity9...

We're not going to wait around and have terroists destroy 3-4 cities before we get our thumbs out of our asses and do something.

I don't recall sterotyping Americans.

Anyway this isn't an argument, this is you ganging up on me because I have a different opinion. It seems your the one whose very defensive when someone voices something that doesn't support your views.

And I dind't even ask a question, so I have no idea what your answering.

I recall Sgt Stryker saying why not go after other terrorists on other countries, and I remember agreeing with him, but not asking a question.

I also recall recall your many attempts at insulting me, but how could it affect me since I need an education?

[quote="Cpl. Eames":2ab7a][quote=Quze]What is with you and all the fucking sterotypes? Hell, I guess Eames is inbred and his wife is his cousin, caz ya'll know hes from the South, and that's what happens down there! YEE HAW![/quote:2ab7a]

this is offtopic, but if your going to use stereotypes use a correct one...the imbred southerners are backwater hillbilles...I live in Tampa....a city...remember we won the superbowl last year?[/quote:2ab7a]

See that's the thing, it doesn't matter if it's correct or not. Tampa is in the south is it not? And the stereotype is that anyone from the South is an inbred redneck.

Just like, Anyone that lives in Canada says "Eh?" and lives in an Igloo.

(Note: Incase anyone is a complete moron, I do not believe in the stereotype that all Southreners are rednecks, as we do have "hicks" in Canada aswell. I'm trying to prove a point to Cpt.Zap, that stereotypes are incorrect and make for lousy insults.)

"you people"?...."hopeless"?, why are the words condescending and twat coming to mind?

That one guy should be wiser than not only all of "us people", but the American, English and Australian governments too....it seems unfair eek:

Hah, this is coming from a person who goes on a rampage when someone doesn't agree with you. Let's go and find all the shit you say to people when they don't agree with you, or simply prove you wrong.

And you obviously need an education if you think there are only two terroists organizations in the world.

Earmes, dont turn this into a fucking liberal vs. conservative issue again. You always do that shit and its really fucking annoying. All you do is blame democrats, liberals, and people who don't think the same way Bush tells them too. It isnt liberals and hippies who divide this country, its ignorant jerkoffs like you who point the finger at everyone who doesnt want to play ball with Bush. It is so ridiculous to blame everything on the previous administration, ok? No one blamed Bush Sr. when the WTC was attacked the first time, and Clinton got the heat for it even though he was in office for only 48 days. Bush Jr. used Clintons military to defeat the Taliban in Afghanistan. How do I know that? Because Bush spent his first year taking a nap and going on vacation. He also didnt create a military budget until October of 2002, a whole year after the Afghanistan campaign. Ergo, if the military was underfunded or suffered from budget cuts, it would not have been able to perform so brilliantly in Afghanistan. I'm a liberal, I'm glad Saddam is in jail, and I give Bush credit for sending our men in to get the job done whether there are WMD's or not. So for God's sake just enjoy the moment that is today, before everyone goes back to their party-biased bullshit.

[quote="Cpt. Zapotoski":1545e][quote:1545e]The United states goverment has an obligation to its people now to supress all threats now before they can materialize, this is why we pre-emptivly attacked iraq, and its why we will most likley pre-empmtivly attack other countries in the future, we simply cant afford to sit back and wait for another 9-11 style attack to happen again, before we do take action.[/quote:1545e]

Eames just hit the nail on the head, right Ninty9 !?

Eames proved a vaild point on why the US invaded Iraq without "proper justification" according to the forum genius Ninity9...

We're not going to wait around and have terroists destroy 3-4 cities before we get our thumbs out of our asses and do something.[/quote:1545e]

No, I don't believe so.

Listen, I believe it is wrong to attack someone/country/organization without having them attack you first, or having credible evidence that an attack is coming. I still have not seen any credible evidence that Saddam Hussein was going to attack the US.

Why don't you read what I've posted, because I've answerd every question thats been asked or responded to all of the anti-american rhetoric that has been posted with accurate answers.