So you are signing up for service after graduation, right?

No, Im goin to a Military Academy hopefully if not then ROTC at Texas A&M to become an officer, or at least a rank that pays more then a pvt.

holy shit 9 pages in like so short of time. I missed all the fun :( . But Summer partying comes first :) (sucks i was the designated driver tonight.

[quote="Pvt.Pinhead":27cf5]No, Im goin to a Military Academy hopefully if not then ROTC at Texas A&M to become an officer, or at least a rank that pays more then a pvt.[/quote:27cf5]
So you are joining to better your life, not serve. Look, its easy to tell everyone that they have a duty to do and should go fight when you are going to go to a school that will put you in charge of a group of people that have already earned its experience in boot camp. If you arent willing to enlist yourself, dont start telling others that theyre cowards for not wanting to be drafted.

[quote="Garry Coleman":a8785]Yep, that's what's wrong about today's youth. Too many of us think that it's "Cool" to be different by speaking out against things. Shut your pie-hole and go fuck yourselves. That's my response to them.[/quote:a8785]

so you just do whatever some morons upstairs tell you without question?

what if a new president in the near future told you to round up the mexicans and gas them?

im afraid the us is digging itself deeper and deeper into its own grave as we continutally destroy countries we cannot afford to support.

next on the list is korea part 2, then iran, then who knows?

and the more we invade these countries, the more we look like the bad guys. we are going to look like an insane country in a frenzy to fight terrorism in the proven wrong manner.

in this war, you cannot fight fire with fire, it takes a great leap of faith, but people need to realize that the flames of terrorism must be extinguished and not met with perfectly calculated brutality. our attacks only spawn more hate.




then again, what it comes down to is: the us, canada, britain and most of europe, israel, japan, australia, etc. are the "have's" and the people middle east and parts of afrika and asia are the "have-not's," so there will always be jealousy and hatred toward us on thier part.

and our attempts to aid these people come up short as the more we try to help, the more they hate us in that we are able to help them.

i wish we could just leave these countries to duke it out on thier own: we pull out all economic ties, and perhaps they can get along fine in thier own culture. maybe then they would realize some of the west's good intentions.

Everything you said.....really made no sense. Go do some underwater research or something.

ROFL!

Re: The Draft...if it comes back...
 

HINT: it's only for americans. you don't have to worry about it pyro.

Alright, I didnt read this whole thread, I got up to page 5 and then I got bored, can you blame me? Anyway, guys I think you should stop jumping down pyros throat. He tried to start a nice, intelligent, and mature thread with you guys and a lot( not all) of you guys are screwing it up. Pyro, I believe that you are right. Nobody should be able to put a price on anybodys life. If and when the cause is just, and the stability and safety of the country in which you live in are at stake, people will willingly commit themselves to the millitary in an effort to save their country, from tyranny and oppression. Alright, I may have gotten a bit dramatic at the end but you guys should be able to get where Im going.

rock:

[quote="Pvt.Pinhead":e5a95]No, Im goin to a Military Academy hopefully if not then ROTC at Texas A&M to become an officer, or at least a rank that pays more then a pvt.[/quote:e5a95]


Green to Gold is for pussies. Enlist, go through the ranks.

wallbash:

I don't think is needed. Why give a shit if someone is beheaded if no one would give a shit if it was you? You people tell me some things are wrong to joke about, this would be the same.

Anyways, thinks to anyone who tried to make this a worthwhile thread.

[quote="Sgt Stryker":b67bb][quote="Garry Coleman":b67bb]Yep, that's what's wrong about today's youth. Too many of us think that it's "Cool" to be different by speaking out against things. Shut your pie-hole and go fuck yourselves. That's my response to them.[/quote:b67bb]

so you just do whatever some morons upstairs tell you without question?

what if a new president in the near future told you to round up the mexicans and gas them?[/quote:b67bb]


garry that comment you just made is a huge reason for the world to shit their pants at the sight of America.

plzdie:

plzdie: dance: rock:

[quote="Short Hand":e98e7] plzdie: dance: rock:[/quote:e98e7]

spank:

Pyro, you still don't get it do you? Tell me you can't be that stupid, please tell me that !!

I tell you what, why not play in traffic today?...or perhaps play a round of golf during a lightning storm! Both seem like fun, go ahead, try it.

I am very surpized you're older than I am. Could of fooled me.

[quote="Short Hand":4d928][quote="Sgt Stryker":4d928][quote="Garry Coleman":4d928]Yep, that's what's wrong about today's youth. Too many of us think that it's "Cool" to be different by speaking out against things. Shut your pie-hole and go fuck yourselves. That's my response to them.[/quote:4d928]

so you just do whatever some morons upstairs tell you without question?

what if a new president in the near future told you to round up the mexicans and gas them?[/quote:4d928]


garry that comment you just made is a huge reason for the world to shit their pants at the sight of America.[/quote:4d928]i've already said before. America (not getting technical with the electoral college) isn't going to elect an insane man as president. I have faith in the selection of our leaders because "they run for president to further america's progress as a whole".

SH's use of emoticons > hogman's use of emoticons

[quote="Garry Coleman":d6c2c][quote="Short Hand":d6c2c][quote="Sgt Stryker":d6c2c][quote="Garry Coleman":d6c2c]Yep, that's what's wrong about today's youth. Too many of us think that it's "Cool" to be different by speaking out against things. Shut your pie-hole and go fuck yourselves. That's my response to them.[/quote:d6c2c]

so you just do whatever some morons upstairs tell you without question?

what if a new president in the near future told you to round up the mexicans and gas them?[/quote:d6c2c]


garry that comment you just made is a huge reason for the world to shit their pants at the sight of America.[/quote:d6c2c]i've already said before. America (not getting technical with the electoral college) isn't going to elect an insane man as president. I have faith in the selection of our leaders because "they run for president to make further america as a whole".[/quote:d6c2c]
Our voting system is horrible IMO. I dont want the ditz who sits next to me in english class to be voting for my president, I dont want one of those "republican/democrat ALL THE WAY!" fuckers voting for my president, you let stupid people vote you get stupid government. America puts equality in voting over smart voting to get a good government... and we end up with the fuckups we have now in office. I think there needs to be some sort of political test before voting to make sure you know what you're voting for.
Edit- and the electoral college is a good idea in its premiss, but they basically follow popular so it doesnt do its job how it should...

you just called BUSH" a good leader.... wow, the amount of brainwashing that has been done to you is amazing...

[quote=jujumantb][quote="Garry Coleman":a1193][quote="Short Hand":a1193][quote="Sgt Stryker":a1193]so you just do whatever some morons upstairs tell you without question?

what if a new president in the near future told you to round up the mexicans and gas them?[/quote:a1193]


garry that comment you just made is a huge reason for the world to shit their pants at the sight of America.[/quote:a1193]i've already said before. America (not getting technical with the electoral college) isn't going to elect an insane man as president. I have faith in the selection of our leaders because "they run for president to make further america as a whole".[/quote:a1193]
Our voting system is horrible IMO. I dont want the ditz who sits next to me in english class to be voting for my president, I dont want one of those "republican/democrat ALL THE WAY!" fuckers voting for my president, you let stupid people vote you get stupid government. America puts equality in voting over smart voting to get a good government... and we end up with the fuckups we have now in office. I think there needs to be some sort of political test before voting to make sure you know what you're voting for.
Edit- and the electoral college is a good idea in its premiss, but they basically follow popular so it doesnt do its job how it should...[/quote:a1193]that totally ruins the idea of America being a land in which the average citizen has a say in the government. As much as I hate the local retard voting, it's the only way to make sure the majority is happy. WHy would you have 10% of Americans deciding what all of us do? I'd hate to say it, but that statement you made sounds like the middle ages with the clergy having a huge say over the masses.

I have to agree with gary on this one. I remember back in junior high talking about getting draft and how "cool" it would be to go to war. Now that i've lost my innocence and ingnorance since then i don't consider war a necessity. I find nothing funny about killing "ragheads" or mass militaristic conformity. I believe many people are living in a world where they are blinded by one thing or another. It could be religion or values they are brought up with. Growing up in a normal life where nothing was forced upon me gave me the ability to see 2 sides of a picture without being influenced by friends or such. How can anyone see killing humans as a necessity? How can anyone sign there life away to fight an unforseen war in the future? People like these either have nothing to live for or have strong patriotism.
What is Patriotism though? It has nothing to do with dying in what you believe in. Its dying for what the man in congress tells you what is right and wrong. You might not always agree with him, but you forced by contract to put your life on the line.

Rebel teens are needed so that all the world isn't conformed to lifeless drones. Teenage years are the times when we are most influencial and these teenage rebels are just people who just see out side the box. There is no need for their goth, emo, etc. clothing. The only thing they need to wear is their voice.

[quote="Short Hand":ea084]you just called BUSH" a good leader.... wow, the amount of brainwashing that has been done to you is amazing...[/quote:ea084]
And your grammatical skills are stunning.

leet saying there. To get the votes, you'll be my campaign manager if I ever run for a local office (that's a BIG if).

[quote="Garry Coleman":22f43]leet saying there. To get the votes, you'll be my campaign manager if I ever run for a local office (that's a BIG if).[/quote:22f43]


rock:

You don't even want to get me started on the education system.

You forget that we can't control the actions of others, sure it would be all good if everybody lived by the ten commandments but life just isnt like that. People are stupid and do stupid things. Remember before 911 we were all good and everything was ok. But outside forces changed this and we had to stop it. You cant use pacifism against Ak-47s.

[quote="Garry Coleman":a0684][quote=jujumantb][quote="Garry Coleman":a0684][quote="Short Hand":a0684][quote="Sgt Stryker":a0684]so you just do whatever some morons upstairs tell you without question?

what if a new president in the near future told you to round up the mexicans and gas them?[/quote:a0684]


garry that comment you just made is a huge reason for the world to shit their pants at the sight of America.[/quote:a0684]i've already said before. America (not getting technical with the electoral college) isn't going to elect an insane man as president. I have faith in the selection of our leaders because "they run for president to make further america as a whole".[/quote:a0684]
Our voting system is horrible IMO. I dont want the ditz who sits next to me in english class to be voting for my president, I dont want one of those "republican/democrat ALL THE WAY!" fuckers voting for my president, you let stupid people vote you get stupid government. America puts equality in voting over smart voting to get a good government... and we end up with the fuckups we have now in office. I think there needs to be some sort of political test before voting to make sure you know what you're voting for.
Edit- and the electoral college is a good idea in its premiss, but they basically follow popular so it doesnt do its job how it should...[/quote:a0684]that totally ruins the idea of America being a land in which the average citizen has a say in the government. As much as I hate the local retard voting, it's the only way to make sure the majority is happy. WHy would you have 10% of Americans deciding what all of us do? I'd hate to say it, but that statement you made sounds like the middle ages with the clergy having a huge say over the masses.[/quote:a0684]
Well I understand what you are saying. That is the general will of America; equality. How far will that get us though? I'm not saying select only a few people to vote for our leader, that wouldn't work. I'm saying make sure those who are voting are competent and know what they are voting for. Nowadays it is all VOTE VOTE VOTE... nomatter what you know because it is your duty... BS if you are just gonna throw a vote down then dont. Administering a simple test would allow most ALL people to vote, they would just need to make an effort to know what they are voting for.
btw; the clergy? you mean the pope :) clergy

[quote=Pyro]I am very surpized you're older than I am. Could of fooled me.[/quote:57ae8]

I'm talking down on your level so perhaps you could understand.....but i see even that doesn't help. Whats a guy to do? **shrugs shoulders

/me sits back and chuggs on a brew

[quote=Arkan][quote=Pyro]I am very surpized you're older than I am. Could of fooled me.[/quote:d4f3b]

I'm talking down on your level so perhaps you could understand.....but i see even that doesn't help. Whats a guy to do? **shrugs shoulders

/me sits back and chuggs on a brew[/quote:d4f3b]

If my level exceeds yours it is hard to go own towards it. Try adding to the thread instead of destroying it.

actually, no i meant all of the people associated with Catholicism. Feudal systems dominated where the local priest was the big shot.

[quote="Short Hand":04f02]you just called BUSH" a good leader.... wow, the amount of brainwashing that has been done to you is amazing...[/quote:04f02]

Some people feel that Bush is a good leader. I realize that is beyond your comprehesion. Brainwashing? No, some just have different views than you do. Some people might feel that you are brainwashed in to your views..just a thought from the other side of the fence...

[quote=Pyro][quote=Arkan][quote=Pyro]I am very surpized you're older than I am. Could of fooled me.[/quote:c35e4]

I'm talking down on your level so perhaps you could understand.....but i see even that doesn't help. Whats a guy to do? **shrugs shoulders

/me sits back and chuggs on a brew[/quote:c35e4]

If my level exceeds yours it is hard to go own towards it. Try adding to the thread instead of destroying it.[/quote:c35e4]

Here ya go, i'll add something worthwhile to this shitty thread.
Go fuck yourself!!

/me stands back and admires my words of wisdom....chuggs down another brew.......BURP !!

[quote="Garry Coleman":d050f]actually, no i meant all of the people associated with Catholicism. Feudal systems dominated where the local priest was the big shot.[/quote:d050f]

Im happy those times are over.

[quote=Arkan][quote=Pyro][quote=Arkan][quote=Pyro]I am very surpized you're older than I am. Could of fooled me.[/quote:608c3]

I'm talking down on your level so perhaps you could understand.....but i see even that doesn't help. Whats a guy to do? **shrugs shoulders

/me sits back and chuggs on a brew[/quote:608c3]

If my level exceeds yours it is hard to go own towards it. Try adding to the thread instead of destroying it.[/quote:608c3]

Here ya go, i'll add something worthwhile to this shitty thread.
Go fuck yourself!!

/me stands back and admires my words of wisdom....chuggs down another brew.......BURP !![/quote:608c3]

At least I know the intelligence of the people who gave Bush power.

[quote="Short Hand":cbd76]you just called BUSH" a good leader.... wow, the amount of brainwashing that has been done to you is amazing...[/quote:cbd76]

get off this crap. bush supporters are entitled to their opinions. im sick of the liberals here beating the "brainwashed Americans" drum in reference to conservatives. if kerry wins, so be it but i will not sit and criticize those who like him/think he is a good leader as brainwashed. while i dont agree with pyro or what he believes, at least he is trying to get a discussion going while your dumb ass remarks are meant to be nothing but flame bait. bait taken.

edit: after posting and seeing pyro's last comment, i take what i said about him back