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Zen 10-20-2004 02:25 PM

I have not recieved all the judges scores, and there doesn't seem to be much drive to provide them, so tonight I will create an average of the scores I do have and use those.

PM me tonight judges if you want your un-sent scores included.

Magnum 10-20-2004 02:54 PM

Ironic that the lack of motivation comes from the judges, not the participants, eh? Come on guys.

Pyro 10-20-2004 09:07 PM

I told you from the start i should of been a judge.

Sirus 10-20-2004 09:11 PM

who are the judges that have not provided the scores

Pvt Flagg 10-23-2004 08:55 AM

better get the winer in today..cause there is no tomarow for this

Magnum 10-23-2004 12:26 PM

Why is that? I just want the scores already.

bukdez 10-23-2004 12:43 PM

i just saw this... there some amazing sigs in there, gg boys...

Mr.Buttocks 10-23-2004 01:02 PM

I made this;

[img]http://jmc7.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/AAdotCOM/duke.gif[/img]

strvs 10-23-2004 06:02 PM

Awesome buttocks thx

Zen 10-23-2004 09:39 PM

Sorry for the delay, My school work takes presedence.

Congrates to our Trendy / 3D Event Medal winners!

Gold .Magnum / Flagg = 36

Silver .Sirus / SnipyMagoo = 35

Bronze .Antihero = 34


These scores were developed using a "Average" system as previously posted by Meat.

1st Post is updated and once I finish with the Audio Video I will add a grand totals to the end of this... If Mag doesn't beat me to it

*** I am currently downloading the Audio / Video. Will be posted in about an hour. ***

Conscript 10-23-2004 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen
Sorry for the delay, My school work takes presedence.

I am adding the info now... you are reading a "to be edited" post.

COOL cool: cool: cool:

Magnum 10-23-2004 10:33 PM

Hurry up man, this ain't gonna be around forever.

Magnum 10-23-2004 10:51 PM

You might not have an hour. Look at the home page. Either way, I belive that clinches my victory, since nobody in the a/v event had the points to threaten.

geRV 10-23-2004 10:56 PM

Audio\video should be judged seperatly, isn't photoshop for a start.

Zen 10-23-2004 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magnum
You might not have an hour. Look at the home page. Either way, I belive that clinches my victory, since nobody in the a/v event had the points to threaten.

Holy Shit, I had no idea we were this far along.

Yes, Magnum has definatly earned the title of AA.com's first...and only it would seem Olympian.

Magnum 10-23-2004 11:05 PM

Hooray.I want my crown.

I wanna know what all your theories and such are. We should continue this conversation over at this newfangled gf1 thing, as I'm sure it will be necessary.

Zen 10-23-2004 11:17 PM

Absolutley Mag, I will get very in-depth with what this experiment has shown and let you guys know whats been running through my mind when we get to GF1.

I have Gerv's vid downloaded and am working on Bucks now.

Damn fine work Gerv, that was awsome.

BlackJackal 10-23-2004 11:20 PM

Buck's making a vid also?

Sirus 10-23-2004 11:28 PM

hooray i got bronze oOo: biggrin:

Korvac 10-24-2004 01:12 AM

Congrats Magnum and whoever elso won. Good job. I wish I could have finished it out.

Zen 10-24-2004 03:33 PM

Ok,

I'm not gonna post any scores for the video event simply because I would be the only one voting...

I would like to say that they are all awsome, I truely enjoyed them all and have made a special folder for them in my collection.

A HUGE Thanks to everyone that entered, I saw... for the first time a dramatic effort and show of skill from everyone, spectacular job on the entries fellas. You should all be proud.

the Experiment

Now when I began this, I figured it for a good idea and judging by the participation of all I was not alone. I had two main purposes to begin with:

. A solid, serious community event that would provide a more open view of tallent here.

. A unification in the basic standards that AA DW's were run by.

You see, each aspect of the events were geared towards making everyone understand it was not a joke and testing the standard that should accompany them. The rules, the event topics, even the judging system played into experiment.

The only problem that I did not expect was from myself... I simply ran out of time to put into it, but in all the outcome and flow worked better than I had expected due to everyones effort.

So, here is what happened and why:

1st. The events were choosen to fight the "anti-cool" atmosphere. That is why there was no "WWII" event. I wanted to put your tallents to work doing things did not fit into the "cool" atmosphere here.
Why? Because what better show of skill than to make something that you personally did not find appealing. This also helped to involve those who may not have entered because of style... good example: Flagg

2nd. The rules were created based on what has failed DW's in the past. Far too often good DW's fail because of broad rules, and everyone gets pissed because the win goes to someone that did not display the tallent that others had.
This also helped to strenthen the "seriousness" of the events... more professional if you will.

3rd. The judging system was initially to be a poll system, but Fireal talked me out of it... and I'm glad he did. By using an isolated judging system we were able to avoid fraudulant votes and were more able to determine a winner based on tallent.
Unfortunatly, one cannot avoid the biases of judges... simply unavoidable, so we did get a few akward scores. A solution to this could have been more judges to even it out.

This is why I did things the way I did them. I would love to run another olympics in a few months with different rules and standards, there were several great ideas that came out during the events that would certainly improve the games...

SC mentioned teams, which I think would be a very cool idea

Gerv's video and audio event was awsome and I would love to see other non-PS events in the games

And many more, that I cannot recall at the moment...

I think that a shared posting and judging responsibillity would help to ensure timly postings and help the flow better

Any suggestions or ideas would be greatly appriciated. I have no intention of sparking another up before the new year so time we have.

Once again, thank you all for taking the time to make this work.
-Rob

Magnum 10-24-2004 03:41 PM

Very interesting Zen. If we do this again, I may be interested in judging. We'll see how it goes. In the meantime, do I get my little olympian crown thingy? biggrin:

Korvac 10-24-2004 03:51 PM

Hey Zen,
Thanks again for putting this together it was a fun little contest. I did a couple of things I thought were pretty cool that I might not have put together normally.

A few things that I would consider revising if you ever do it again in the future.

1. I would limit the types of events to things that everyone can easily participate in. The video event and the 3d event were cool, but I think because of the software that people use it kind of limited who was able to compete. So you basically had people in the video event that didn't compete in the rest.

2. I think the events that were the most sucessful as far as interesting entries were the ones with the most restrictions. For instance the PS only event I think had the most interesting stuff. Some of the other events like the photochop event I think weren't as sucessful because the rules were so broad you could enter almost anything. I think by forcing people to do things that might be outside of their comfort zone, you get the most interesting and creative results.

3. Shorten the number of events to maybe 4, it seemed to run out of steam toward the end.

Anyway, good job. If you ever need a judge for any future events, let me know.

geRV 10-24-2004 04:10 PM

I suck at photoshop cry:

TonyMontana 10-24-2004 04:18 PM

great job guys

Zen 10-24-2004 05:04 PM

Here you go Mag:

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/Zen29/Sigs/crown.jpg[/img]

And a few statistics for those interested:

Entries:

We had 37 different people enter at least one piece in the Olympics

Grunge had 24 entries
Music had 26 entries
Animation had 18 entries
Chopped had 11 entries
100% PS had 21 entries
3D had 9 entries
Audio / Video had 4 entries

Metals:

[code:912ad]Gold: Silver: Bronze:

Anti . 1 Magnum . 2 Sirus . 1
Magnum . 4 Anti . 2 Guarnere . 2
Korvac . 1 Sirus . 2 Elestatic . 1
Flagg . 1 Strvs . 1 Anti . 2
Cold . 1 Korvac . 2[/code:912ad]

Magnum: 6 metals total
Anti: 5 metals total
Sirus: 3 metals total
Korvac: 3 metals total

Total scores:

Magnum: 210.8
Antihero: 197.1
Sirus: 177.3
Korvac: 160.2
Proteus: 138.8
Short Hand: 134.8
Elstatec: 134.1
Apocalypse | Now : 132.7
Sxdx: 114.9
Pvt.Flagg: 114.3
Strvs: 109.3
Guarnere: 93.7
NexusRevived: 77.6
Bean2: 76.5
Tystnad: 74.4
GenBlackJackal: 71.4
MotoxXx: 70.2
Hawk: 67.4
Bullitt Tooth: 65.4
Yvess: 65.4
Judas: 60.4
Draken_sd: 51.7
Buckweed: 51.2
Maple: 36
SnipeyMagoo: 35
Ape : 34
MoonRaker: 32.4
Grim Reaper: 32.1
Tony Montana: 31
Silent: 28
Sgt. Paine: 25
Head-Up: 22
Newt: 22
Eclipse: 20
Paranoid Sniper: 17
Mr. Clean: 8

Magnum 10-24-2004 05:15 PM

Thanks Zen, I will display it proudly for a little while. Cool stats.

Sirus 10-25-2004 12:45 AM

gj zen, thanks for the event, it was a blast

Tystnad 10-25-2004 12:04 PM

Heh, 74.4 points by only using old stuff I found lying around on uploaders? Man, I wish I'd been able to enter fresh stuff instead, and been able to participate in a few more events.

Magnum 10-25-2004 01:07 PM

Zen, would it be possible to get the individual total scores for each event? I would like to see the evolution of the competition.

Zen 10-25-2004 01:24 PM

Originally I had wanted to save that info and have it displayed per each event, but I ditched the idea after some complaints about how the judges scores came out.

So, I don't have any record of per event totals... sorry.

Magnum 10-25-2004 01:36 PM

Dang, that's too bad. You should have held on to the totals, but not posted each judge's score, which was a problem for the first event.


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