Ignore Coleman's illegitimate comparison.

I would PWN you in a debate biggrin:

I dont get it how dudes always bring up that comparison. Drugs, rape, incest, bestiality and all that shit isnt even remotely on the same level as gay marriage, so why do you guys always compare it to that shit?

Hah, because that is exactly the same. Crack ruins neighbourhoods. I can't see how gay marriage could.....

Jesus the racist. ed: .........

I think you may have overlooked this part.

[quote:08871]"Woman," Jesus said to her, "your faith is great. Your request is granted." And her daughter was instantly healed." [/quote:08871]

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ANTI FEMINIST happy:

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So if I call you a white redneck cracker mother fucker, then tell you your not worth treating for a illness... then I go ahead after you say something semi inspiring to me and do so makes me a non racist ?


I simply posted it to show the faults in the savior.

I've reread the passage several time and still don't see where Jesus says "white redneck cracker mother fucker" to anybody. He says that GOD didn't send him to help her people. He also changes his mind and helps her out.

If you were to call me a "white redneck cracker mother fucker" all I'd do is consider the source (insignificant teenaged idiot) and ignore you.

cool: angel:

johnj... you can't bullshit your way out of this one.


Canaanite's = Gentiles. Gentiles = Not of Judah.

Jesus is saying, your not one of us, you are not worthy becasue you are not of Judah. (racism hint hint)


RACISM the purest example of it. rolleyes:

I wouldn't be surprised if Jesus was a bigot.

I think it was a test of faith. he was testing her to see if she was actually faithful to him

Short, at the end of the story did the broad get what she was after? Lets look at it a different way. GOD tells Jesus to only help the Gentiles. Canaanite woman asks for help. Jesus says no, thinks about it and disobeys GODs orders and helps her out. GOD puts Jesus on cross to punish him. Jesus dies and three days later his stunt double shows up and says OMG WTF!

Short click [url=http://www.revilocartoons.com/ugly%20people/This%20is%20you%20falling%20copy.jpg:7a0ec]this[/url:7a0ec]. Go ahead I dare you. I double dog dare you.


dance:

Jesus wouldn't disobey God and he was not put on the cross as punishment for what HE did.

Back on track ...

I explained what your anti-homosexual bible verse means. Since you said you obey the bible, than whats your arguement now?

Also i might add that this verse was in the Old Testament, which is not to be taken literally by Christians. Yes it can be used for pray and exploratioins in the biblical world, but any priest (accept catholic or orthodox) will say otherwise.

this thread is gay

[quote="blanco conejo":065cf]this thread is gay[/quote:065cf]

lol

What do you mean what's my argument? The verse says that homosexuality is a sin, I'm sticking with that and that's why I don't support it.

He commited an act of discrimination. THUS RACISM. THUS JESUS "WAS" a racist. Period. He made a mistake which he fixed, but he still made it. Jesus "was" a racist".

So if there was a vote today would you support the follow:

-Removal of Divorce
-Removal of Science in the classroom (including social science)
-Deport other religions
-Mandatory volunteering
-Death Penalty
-No more unhealthy foods (gluttonous)
-Mandatory prayer in school


A good Christian would vote for all these, not pick and choose. They are all bad in the bible, why not bad for America?

[quote="Short Hand":3d1c1]He commited an act of discrimination. THUS RACISM. THUS JESUS "WAS" a racist. Period. He made a mistake which he fixed, but he still made it. Jesus "was" a racist".[/quote:3d1c1]

I don't get what you're saying. Where is the racial discrimination? All I read is Jesus explaining that god sent him down to help those that didn't believe he was the son of god.

[quote=Tripper]I don't get what you're saying. Where is the racial discrimination? All I read is Jesus explaining that god sent him down to help those that didn't believe he was the son of god.[/quote:edea1]

Well, it would be hard to see the racism if you don't know the background of it all.... In Judah, Caananites were considered to be inferior to the people of Judah.... MAINLY for their support of conquerors in the past, such as the Greeks, Roman's, & Bablynonians (mind my spelling on those...). So to any person from Judah @ the time they considered Caananites inferior people, like Blacks were looked down upo in the south back in the 50's and 60's.... Does it make any sense now ? Gentiles were also treated in this type of way as well, a gentile being someone who was not jewish or foreign to the area. Jesus told her to screw off at first due to her being a Caananite. happy: ....this is hard to understand if you have no clue about the geography and political turmoil of the time.

So that means your a homophobe for calling me a cocksucker a while ago. Once a homophobe always a homophobe. You constantly label people because you don't like something they say or do. I remember that girl that got hurt playing football and how you were so happy about that. So I guess your also anti-feminist. You also practice age discrimination frequently. By your standard you are one messed up kid.

Oh wait a minute you were only joking so this doesn't apply to you , being that you are such a superior human being.

Get a clue kid.

Way to change the topic back 5 pages when I completely correct you old man. Get a clue ?..lol Look at yourself. rolleyes:

I changed the topic back 5 pages, while you change to topic back 2000 years. Which would be more current?

loo!

The bible isn't against divorce if it must be done, and I'm sure that the Bible doesn't require most of those other things as a set in stone beleifs like homosexuality as a sin.

I'm pretty sure Jesus doesn't support divorce because Tom Cruise wanted a younger wife.

PS: Sins as followed
-Pride
-Greed
-Envy
-Wrath
-Lust
-Gluttony
-Sloth

The only sin it would remotely fall under is lust. Some 70% married people have had sex before being married, pretty sure some of them are christian too.

[quote="Short Hand":47882][quote=Tripper]I don't get what you're saying. Where is the racial discrimination? All I read is Jesus explaining that god sent him down to help those that didn't believe he was the son of god.[/quote:47882]

Well, it would be hard to see the racism if you don't know the background of it all.... In Judah, Caananites were considered to be inferior to the people of Judah.... MAINLY for their support of conquerors in the past, such as the Greeks, Roman's, & Bablynonians (mind my spelling on those...). So to any person from Judah @ the time they considered Caananites inferior people, like Blacks were looked down upo in the south back in the 50's and 60's.... Does it make any sense now ? Gentiles were also treated in this type of way as well, a gentile being someone who was not jewish or foreign to the area. Jesus told her to screw off at first due to her being a Caananite. happy: ....this is hard to understand if you have no clue about the geography and political turmoil of the time.[/quote:47882]

It's not racism. It's religous prejudice. For like one second of Jesus' whole life. Omfg, he's so fucking evil.

You wasted so much of your own time following up this "argument." rolleyes:

You're probably right. So what?

[quote=Tripper][quote="Short Hand":2a67c]Well, it would be hard to see the racism if you don't know the background of it all.... In Judah, Caananites were considered to be inferior to the people of Judah.... MAINLY for their support of conquerors in the past, such as the Greeks, Roman's, & Bablynonians (mind my spelling on those...). So to any person from Judah @ the time they considered Caananites inferior people, like Blacks were looked down upo in the south back in the 50's and 60's.... Does it make any sense now ? Gentiles were also treated in this type of way as well, a gentile being someone who was not jewish or foreign to the area. Jesus told her to screw off at first due to her being a Caananite. happy: ....this is hard to understand if you have no clue about the geography and political turmoil of the time.[/quote:2a67c]

It's not racism. It's religous prejudice. For like one second of Jesus' whole life. Omfg, he's so fucking evil.

You wasted so much of your own time following up this "argument." rolleyes:[/quote:2a67c]

You go on and think that champ. rolleyes:
Just a reminder, I wasted no more then 3 to 4 minutes typing it up, that was just beforehand knowledge I had from 14 years of religous study in school wackwad. nag:

Gentiles = non beleiver

Jesus used parables to teach in metaphorical and strange ways. maybe this was a way to see if she, being of non beleiver origin was sincere about her faith. She proved her faith so he healed her.

I'm siding with c312 on the gentiles issue/

[quote="Short Hand":106aa][quote=Tripper][quote="Short Hand":106aa]Well, it would be hard to see the racism if you don't know the background of it all.... In Judah, Caananites were considered to be inferior to the people of Judah.... MAINLY for their support of conquerors in the past, such as the Greeks, Roman's, & Bablynonians (mind my spelling on those...). So to any person from Judah @ the time they considered Caananites inferior people, like Blacks were looked down upo in the south back in the 50's and 60's.... Does it make any sense now ? Gentiles were also treated in this type of way as well, a gentile being someone who was not jewish or foreign to the area. Jesus told her to screw off at first due to her being a Caananite. happy: ....this is hard to understand if you have no clue about the geography and political turmoil of the time.[/quote:106aa]

It's not racism. It's religous prejudice. For like one second of Jesus' whole life. Omfg, he's so fucking evil.

You wasted so much of your own time following up this "argument." rolleyes:[/quote:106aa]

You go on and think that champ. rolleyes:
Just a reminder, I wasted no more then 3 to 4 minutes typing it up, that was just beforehand knowledge I had from 14 years of religous study in school wackwad. nag:[/quote:106aa]

Whatever, it's still pathetic that you tried to make a point out of that.....and that you even initially said it in the first place. You were just causing trouble with irrelevent to the issue, anti-conservative, remarks.

I am a massive trouble maker. & a note to c132486u85930, she was a Caananite as well. rolleyes:

but it never specified whether or not being a canaanite or being a gentile was the important thing.

Caannite of course, I mentioned both, I should have kept to the Caananite side of it though.

I meant the Bible. It never placed the value on her being canaanite, that's why I think it was more about her being a Gentile

Either way he was still being predjudice. I see both, but thats just me... it is all on how you interprept it really. We will have to agree to disagree really. I beleive when you read the bible you have to read between the lines and look for the loop holes. .. (this just means taking a good chunk of it as not exxact word for word).

Or in other words you make stuff up to suit your purpose.

Yaaaaaaa....... thats it old man. rolleyes: lol.