Even if you price it online its bull shit, the manual is more than the auto which is bull shit because the autos have more computers in them and what not.

the base price of them is $600 more i believe because they come standard with the sport tuned suspension

That or its because americans have gotten so lazy that to get a stick is now considered an option. So they charge a premium for people who actually want to drive.

Thats bull shit, but its not true thank god. Because the Subarus and Nissans and all those other people charge less for manuals.

What gets me is in Spain when i was there EVER car was a manual. Than i come back to the states im like wow wtf its amazing why europeans and japs are better drivers than americans as far as road racing and rallying.

its actually because sport tuned suspension = better suspension, bigger wheels, and a few more interior options.

i wouldn't say that is true just because they can drive stick, i can drive stick but that doesnt mean i like to do it. id just prefer not to because what is the point? to race? am i going to race? no. am i going to take it to the track? maybe once but not like every weekend. plus automatics are basically as fast as manuals now a days anyway, and i do have the manual shift mode for when i do want the power.

You get a better feel for the car with a manual. I like having complete control over my speed nad power with the flick of the stick. With an auto im not in control as much as i want to be. The sporttronics are just a regular auto, just use the 1-2-3-D to shift ffs lol.

the g35 doesnt have 1-2-3-d it only had D and the manual mode

the Manual G35 has way more horsepower than the autotragic.

Manual > Auto

1) When going down a hill in a low speed limit you need to be in maybe 3/4th gear (engine braking). You cant do this in a manual, you have to keep tapping the brake which is a pain in the arse.
2) Alert, you are much more alert when driving a manual, you have to constantly change gears, making you much more wary of your surroundings.
3) fuel consumption, Automatic consumes alot more fuel.


Found a couple links:
http://www.mouthshut.com/review/Automat ... 962-1.html

http://www.mouthshut.com/review/Automat ... 865-1.html

lol you guys jsut dont get it. i dont care about the 17 extra hp. simo, am i going to race? NO.

it consumes 1 more mpg, and like i said it comes with the manual mode so you can use whatever gear you want for a hill or waht not.

oh and plus the fact - i dont care and i dont want a manual.

Moving on, more pics you jew

its dirty cry: its been raining here for the past few days.

on the 10th i get a dealer tint and a detail from the dealer for free, ill def get pics then. ill try and get some more tho like today

Rain here too...otherwise i'd pollute your thread with my rice. your'e lucky

who says you have to race to have a manual

point is you denied yourself a real driving experience. case closed. lock this thread and salt the Earth. khtnx

[quote="Simo Häyhä":cda0d]who says you have to race to have a manual

point is you denied yourself a real driving experience. case closed. lock this thread and salt the Earth. khtnx[/quote:cda0d]kthx owned

what the fuck. driving experience. I dunno about your experiences, but mine are fucking driving with 100s of cars around on the interstate, untill I get to a traffic jam. then I sit in it doing 5-10 miles per hour for about 10 minutes

then I drive to the grocery store on occasion. none by the way are on winding roads with beautiful nature and freshly fallen leaves blowing behind me on the road as I drive past them.

The dude doesnt want to constantly shift. big fucking deal.

salt a mans's face with steamy man butter kthx.

I don't see the big deal about manual either. Automatic was made for a reaso: it's easier and more convenient. Why should people deny themselves those comforts? Do all you who only drive manuals light your houses with kerosene lamps too? Or do you only inconvenience yourself by not partaking of current technology in the automotive part of your life?

It's a pretty car Himmler, congrats

Ok asshats, here's the deal with transmissions. If you're driving an everyday car, auto is the way to go. If you have a weekend sports car, manual is the ticket.

If you're drag racing for money, auto is the key to winning. If you're racing on a road course, manual is what you'd want.

Arkans everyday car is an auto. No need to keep shifting while i'm either stuck in traffic or fumbling with my food. My Shelby mustang however will be a manual trans. Car is only coming out on my off days during nice weather.

Oh, 1 more thing.....if you live in the snow belt, auto is alot better.

This should cease all debate over auto Vs manual. All the answers are above ^^^

biggrin: lol!....that's a shame, you can't drive anywhere in Sydney without hurtling along some narrow
cobblestone throrougfare in a quaint European village at 100mph with some lingerie-wearing honey on a
balcony screaming at you about enjoying the car too much whilst you're supposed to be probing her etc...so, yeah.

I agree, only because you can get a better start off the line with an auto, but you can launch just as hard with a manual. I agree sitting in traffic with a manual is tedious and annoying, but if you don't mind it (like me) its not a huge deal. My dad always says dont get a manual they are stupid (he use to have them but he got old and annoyed with them) i tell him i'm young and i enjoy shifting gears more than just sitting there. Its personal prefernce, but i'm going the manual route this time around.

Im not reading 10 pages of shit I know exist behind this post. Nice car, hard work pays off. I agree with the auto seeing how you live in the city, can I drive it?

Sweet fucking ride, man. Auto transmission is all I drive. I really don't feel the need for shifting gears manually. It licks balls in traffic.

gg!

I sit in traffic all the time with man manual. Its nice to not have to have your foot on the brake when just sitting there, and since your used to doing things with your right arm it comes naturally to pop it into neutral. Rather than an auto where you can, but you always forget, and it always seems to jerk a bit when going back and forth between the two. Then theres hills... I will never own an auto for this very reason... Going up a hill the fucking things can NEVER decide what gear they want. You'll be in 4th, and you'll be decellerating, so it'll go back to 3rd and rev up and get you back up to speed, only to shift back to 4th and start decellerating again. I know of more than 5 hills this annoyance ALWAYS accures. Doesnt matter what car it was, if it was auto it did this. Meanwhile my stick i can just leave in 5th and have no issue with any of them.

Dont even get me started on the throttle response. If im drivng on the freeway and i stab the gas i expect the fucker to drop a gear and go, no hesitation. What do i get, 3 seconds of lag while the tranny decides what it wants to do. Meanwhile my foots on the floor and im waiting. Then it does it and it jerks like nothing else as the revs sky rocket. My uncles Hemi Ram 1500 was fast as hell, unless you stabbed the gas, do that and prepare to wait, at any speed, even standing still. The dealer even said he should replace the stock chip to better manage the power, and lower the response.

Most people probably dont notice it, they just go from point a to point b and just want to be there. Id prefer to enjoy the trip and perhaps be naughty along the way. I find a manual best provides for that "weekend racer" i get from time to time... Ok, more often than not.

That and i do tend to get bored city driving with an auto.

P.s. 0 traffic violations.

miscguy, you are forgetting that this has the manual mode which pretty much just goes agaist with everything you just said. you want to go into 4th gear and stay into fourth gear? hit it to the right and you wont change gears until you decide to change gears.

Not really, since my sisters car has that same thing. It just seems like when you drive an auto you forget about these features. Not to mention that running in 3rd at freeway speeds up those hills dosnt exactally produce a high milage machine.

the testosterone that comes off you puts full grown female live stock into heat.. ed:

[quote="Short Hand":a9f76]the testosterone that comes off you puts full grown female live stock into heat.. ed:[/quote:a9f76]

yay, another "fan" of mine.stupid: go find yourself a girl to play with.

I rented a Mazda 6 this summer in Newfoundland and really enjoyed the tiptronic setup it had. Gives you the best of both worlds, sorta...you can shift gears, but there's no clutch.

It was a neat little gadget, but not something I'd use all the time. I don't drive for the thrill of driving. I drive like an old woman.

have you guys ever seen the car design where it was a manual transmission but instead of the classic gear shifter, it had a little button that you press on the side of the steering wheel. I saw it at an auto show one time, but i can't remember the model of the car that had it.

Like an F1 car...coolness.

except for the fact that it was in a cadillac-like luxury car for old fellas that can afford it biggrin:

Kinda like over here, every fucking old person sems to be drinving around in a top of the range car of some sort, bmw z3 coupe's seem to be very popular among the 90 year olds. oOo: Same as when we get warm weather, EVERY fucker has a convertabile, its like the ony thing you see on the main road. People just must hire them out and then drive up and down our main road trying to show off, if you stand around long enough you can see the exact same people goin up and down the road time and time for no reason. oOo:

I remember my uncle picking me up one time and we went up the road headed to pc world, seen this bmw slowly coming along the other side of the road, we thought it was driving itself, the woman inside was that small it was like barely the very top of her head was over the stering wheel and it was only when we were side on with it that we could see her. annoy:

tyhey picking up chicks or what?

Sad thing is the majority of them are women. ed:

go for a ride with one biggrin: rock:

f nothing else, pleasure her until she has a heart attack. Then take her car

the new lexus IS has paddle shifters like an F1 car. its sweet.

oh and something i keep forgetting to mention about why i really prefer auto over manual right now..INTELLI KEY. its so fucking sweet, dont ever have to mess with your keys or anything, and it isnt available on the manual only the auto.

Im gonna have to disagree here. Ive driven both in the snow, ice, dirt, rain, dry pavement, and mud and Ill say if you know how to drive a stick they offer slightly better control. I would prefer a manual in the snow incase I needed a quick wheel spin instantly or needed to down shift to slow down. Yes I understand autos can offer both of those, but they are slower at doing both. I dont like the auto shifting when I dont want it to and many times that has saved me from sliding off the road.

[quote=Arkan]yay, another "fan" of mine.stupid: go find yourself a girl to play with.[/quote:1421a]

loney:

this in todays Detroit News, looks yummy

http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs.dl ... /601040373