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Short Hand 01-19-2006 11:18 PM

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Not a question of Trust as British troops went to Iraq on a lie, so i have no trust for the government in power but even if i did it would be biased, and I do not know enough about Iran to trust them either so I will put everyone on same level.


Irans Nuclear Research is whats this about, you talk as if they actually have nukes and that they have used them, which A. they dont have, and B. said they dont intend on making.

I'm giving up...it's pointless.

Iran would is most likely not developing nuclear arms, and if thwey did......They are not fucking retarded enough to use them.

Coleman 01-19-2006 11:24 PM

[quote="Short Hand":2a2f9]
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Not a question of Trust as British troops went to Iraq on a lie, so i have no trust for the government in power but even if i did it would be biased, and I do not know enough about Iran to trust them either so I will put everyone on same level.


Irans Nuclear Research is whats this about, you talk as if they actually have nukes and that they have used them, which A. they dont have, and B. said they dont intend on making.

I'm giving up...it's pointless.

Iran would is most likely not developing nuclear arms, and if thwey did......They are not fucking retarded enough to use them.[/quote:2a2f9]maybe a scientist that understands the power of the nuke...but not some crazy wack-o muslim terrorist that breaks into the facility and sets it off.

elstatec 01-19-2006 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Coleman
.but not some crazy wack-o muslim terrorist that breaks into the facility and sets it off.

you know you just made shorthand look smarter than you, which is a really hard thing todo.

Short Hand 01-19-2006 11:49 PM

COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKIE oOo:

c312 01-20-2006 12:01 AM

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you don't have to be american to understand that the US, the UK, and Israel are in drastically different situations than Iran. It''s the same reason why we don't give guns to felons. Sure, they might not use it for bad, but do you want to take that risk? And before you say that those other countries are criminals ask yourself, do you honestly think any of those countries would actually use nuclear weapons?


hell-fucking-lo hiroshima and nagasaki?

Iran are as right to have nuclear weapons to deter as Israel, US and UK do, even though they clearly stated they will not produce nuclear weapons, but oh well the lack of hearing around here.

And so what you are saying is that Iran is full of Felons? What do you make that assumption on? Idioticy? Dementia? US and UK have done far worse things to Iran than the other way around so think about that. And your patriotism doesnt really open your mind to how the world is outside of the capitalist bubble.

it's called an analogy, and you're an idiot for thinking this is the same as WWII. I'm with Coleman, this is stupid. Most of the world has the same opinion on this, even many European countries, I'm not gonna argue it with one person who has a different opinion.

Madmartagen 01-20-2006 12:03 AM

if britain,france,russia or whoever developed the bomb first,they wouldnt even have given nagasaki a couple of days left to live - they prolly would have dropped it the same day as hiroshima blew up. you need to let ww2 go, dude, it was over 60 years ago and it saved millions of allied and japanese lives. the nuclear club is big enough as it is, no one else should have a "right" to make them - its getting out of hand. they should be dismantling them, not making more. you can preach fairness all you want - i think iran is not trustworthy enough to have nuclear technology because they would most definately try and make a bomb. i know thats just my opinion, but i think most people (or at least half for arguments sake) agree.

Short Hand 01-20-2006 12:05 AM

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if britain,france,russia or whoever developed the bomb first,they wouldnt even have given nagasaki a couple of days left to live - they prolly would have dropped it the same day as hiroshima blew up. you need to let ww2 go, dude, it was over 60 years ago and it saved millions of allied and japanese lives. the nuclear club is big enough as it is, no one else should have a "right" to make them - its getting out of hand. they should be dismantling them, not making more. you can preach fairness all you want - i think iran is not trustworthy enough to have nuclear technology because they would most definately try and make a bomb. i know thats just my opinion, but i think most people (or at least half for arguments sake) agree.

Japan was attempting to surrender.......

Madmartagen 01-20-2006 12:11 AM

wtf,they couldnt pick up the phone? if they were trying,they didnt try hard enough, man. if you see a city blow up like that,you would think they would have rang us up on the horn or something. tough shit.

imported_Fluffy_Bunny 01-20-2006 12:28 AM

I woulda nuked those suckers 4x...

Anyhoo, fact is Tony Blair or GW wouldn't come out infront of the world one day & say they want to destroy a country just for the hell of it. But that's just what the chap incharge of Iran said about Israel a few months ago...

You think a guy like that should have nukes even in the name of fairness? rolleyes:

elstatec 01-20-2006 12:42 AM

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it's called an analogy, and you're an idiot for thinking this is the same as WWII. I'm with Coleman, this is stupid. Most of the world has the same opinion on this, even many European countries, I'm not gonna argue it with one person who has a different opinion.

did i say this was the same as WW2, no you are the idiot for thinking so, i just mentioned the only 2 nukes that have been used on humans as you asked 'do you honestly think any of those countries would actually use nuclear weapons?' so why the fuck do you think I said it, and it doesnt matter if it happened 60 years ago, they are still the only time nuclear weapons have been used so is of huge importances, and you and Madmartagen are trying to shift it to the side as if it does not matter.

But give up then, be with Coleman, be so shit deep in the ignorance of what is actually going on here and go to bed little boy.

Short Hand 01-20-2006 01:12 AM

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wtf,they couldnt pick up the phone? if they were trying,they didnt try hard enough, man. if you see a city blow up like that,you would think they would have rang us up on the horn or something. tough shit.

President Truman rejected the offers, he wanted to show Stalin a little heat.

Johnj 01-20-2006 08:26 AM

[quote="Short Hand":a5fd8]Japan was attempting to surrender.......

President Truman rejected the offers, he wanted to show Stalin a little heat.[/quote:a5fd8]

We've been over this several times before, have you found any credible sources to back up this claim yet?

You and Elstat should run away from home and join the Iranian Army. I heard they are looking for some volunteers.

Coleman 01-20-2006 08:37 AM

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But give up then, be with Coleman, be so shit deep in the ignorance of what is actually going on here and go to bed little boy.

wow, don't be a douche and start taking jabs at people below the belt.

I guess I'm just one of those ignorant Americans with a realistic view of the world. sleeping:

Sgt>Stackem 01-20-2006 09:34 AM

elstatec
please email George W Bush with your GPS location

elstatec 01-20-2006 10:41 AM

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..realistic view of the world

realistic hahahahaha.

c312 01-20-2006 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by c312
it's called an analogy, and you're an idiot for thinking this is the same as WWII. I'm with Coleman, this is stupid. Most of the world has the same opinion on this, even many European countries, I'm not gonna argue it with one person who has a different opinion.

did i say this was the same as WW2, no you are the idiot for thinking so, i just mentioned the only 2 nukes that have been used on humans as you asked 'do you honestly think any of those countries would actually use nuclear weapons?' so why the fuck do you think I said it, and it doesnt matter if it happened 60 years ago, they are still the only time nuclear weapons have been used so is of huge importances, and you and Madmartagen are trying to shift it to the side as if it does not matter.

But give up then, be with Coleman, be so shit deep in the ignorance of what is actually going on here and go to bed little boy.

ahahahaha. I'm not giving up, I'm just not gonna argue with someone who is beyond reasoning. And you did compare it to WW2, you brought in the fact that the US is the only country to have used the bomb and tried to make that seem related to what we are talking about now...that's a comparison...

elstatec 01-20-2006 01:07 PM

ww2 was much more than 2 bombs, and as said those 2 bombs are greatly related as the argument involves nuclear weapons, and well these are the only ones used, but try and ignore that fact then and be above reason, fool.

Sgt>Stackem 01-20-2006 01:47 PM

its like comparing a Model T to a Mustang

Madmartagen 01-20-2006 02:49 PM

you brought up ww2 mang, i was trying to keep it on the issue of trust. I dotn trust Iran with nuclear technology. thats my reasoning by it. I dont trust Bush, thats for sure; but i dont have to be a supporter of him or our govt to make up my own mind about Iran.

Eight Ace 01-20-2006 04:47 PM

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oh have you all became expert nuclear inspectors or something, ermm no stfu.

oh, and you of course are an expert with inside knowledge of the real motivation behind irans actions, erm no...so stfu

ps: and stop resorting to name calling when peoples views differ from your own...you whiney little cunt.

elstatec 01-20-2006 07:50 PM

[quote:4c1a3]ps: and stop resorting to name calling when peoples views differ from your own...you whiney little cunt. [/quote:4c1a3]


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descry 01-21-2006 05:26 PM

this is all einstein's fault.

elstatec 01-26-2006 06:51 AM

maybe now all you specilating ignorant bastards will shut up

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle ... 649182.stm

Nyck 01-26-2006 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by elstatec
maybe now all you specilating ignorant bastards will shut up

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle ... 649182.stm

Whats that prove, china a country which has never really ever backed western appeals, and who has its hand DEEP into Iran oil, is scared shitless of losing that supply and wonders what other Mid East Countries would think of its decsion to back sanctions. Therefore it makes the decsion to not bite the hand that feeds them and risk losing oil.

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elstatec 01-26-2006 07:49 AM

no its with the plans to enrich uranium in Russia which the situation is about, you know the way you make nuclear weapons, that apparently Iran plan to even though they clearly stated otherwise.


but then again lets hope this situation doesnt get resolved, so sanctions get put in place, and i will laugh when you pay shit loads for your gas


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