[quote="CSF_Jaizen":e4281]okay here is a very simple way of ending this.

Adam and Eve had three boys (i may not be 100%)

how is it that within the span of a few hundred years the earth became populated? seeing as god forbits incest and, incest causes health problems. I do not see how that three boys, a man and a woman could populate the earth.

this type of discussion, nay, preaching has no place in the forums.[/quote:e4281]

Whoa Jaizen we actually agree on something.

you probably posted the most intelligent thing on this thread. :-?

"basically all your answers are quotes from something that is not your mind, writtin well by you can't really know"

i myself cannot personally feel why someone can believe something other then himself and what he personally feels.

[quote="CSF_Jaizen":cb1df]okay here is a very simple way of ending this.

Adam and Eve had three boys (i may not be 100%)

how is it that within the span of a few hundred years the earth became populated? seeing as god forbits incest and, incest causes health problems. I do not see how that three boys, a man and a woman could populate the earth.

this type of discussion, nay, preaching has no place in the forums.[/quote:cb1df]

Ahahaahaaha, that means that the boys were doin their mom. Ewwww... :evil:

Well, it had to start somehow, didn't it? Or do you just think millions of people just popped up?

[quote="CSF_Jaizen":1d954]okay here is a very simple way of ending this.

Adam and Eve had three boys (i may not be 100%)

how is it that within the span of a few hundred years the earth became populated? seeing as god forbits incest and, incest causes health problems. I do not see how that three boys, a man and a woman could populate the earth.

this type of discussion, nay, preaching has no place in the forums.[/quote:1d954]

Adam and Eve is a story. Just a story. It is a story that tries to explain how the earth was populated. There was no Adam and Eve. There was no apple, nor snake, it is just a story.

And the Lord God called unto Adam: 'Where art thou?'

And Adam said, 'I art here'

But both Adam and Eves eyes were opened and they saw they were naked and they sewed on fig leaves - one for Eve, and a hundred and eighty for Adam.

The lord said, 'Who told thee that thou was naked?'

And Adam said, 'I could see it all hanging down'

'Has thou eaten of the apple?' Said the Lord

'Yea, Eve gave it to me' said Adam ' A Granny Smith'

'Woman' said the Lord, 'what hast thou done?'

And Eve said, 'I havent done anything, Ive just got here'

And the Lord said unto the serpent, 'Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the feild; upon thy belly thou shalt go, and dust thou eat all the days of your life'

'This is vicitmisation' said the serpent. 'I shall appeal to the RSPCA'.

:roll:

Humanism is also a religion which I see many adhere to in this forum. I understand this is a gaming forum and is not the place for spiritual things to be examined. My apologies for the intrusion and the topic.

What's with the emphasis of "LORD" in your sig ? Trying to tell us that Jackson is cooler than he already is 'cos he's quoting the bible ? Err... No.

Christianity is an outdated religion, I don't blame people who grew up in the 40s-50s to continue believing in it... Becuase they didn't know any better back then... But people trying to brainwash the new generation... sickens me.

Yknow what FUCK RELIGON. Thers too much friggin evidence that god doesn't exist and the only evidence that he did exist is a book of some of the biggest load of bollocks stories you have ever read.

Religon is bollocks end of story.

Whatever happened to respecting each others beliefs ?

You people who dont believe, thats fine. Dont believe in him. But those of us who do, dont put us down, and dont put our beliefs down. I dont know about any of the other guys here who believe in God, but I never pushed my beliefs on those who dont, and I dont expect those who dont believe to push their views down my throat. A little bit of mutual respect would go a long way. Show a little tolerance towards each other particular religous beliefs and stances please.

You know what, you will never agree with each other. To believe or not believe, that is the question. If you ask me, you should all just agree to disagree and put this neverending conflict to rest.

It seems a lot of EMOTION and unwarranted HOSTILITY is stirred up when people consider the validity of the Bible, especially from people who have never read it. The cruder replies truely shows a lack of maturity in the authors (preteens?).

[quote="Von Paulus":85c44]Christianity is an outdated religion, I don't blame people who grew up in the 40s-50s to continue believing in it... Becuase they didn't know any better back then... But people trying to brainwash the new generation... sickens me.[/quote:85c44]

What about the people who "grew up" in the last 2 thousand years, did they not know better also? Why does the "new generation" know any better today? Please solve all the world's ills while you still know everything. biggrin:

fire1: Jesus freaks

[quote="*MoG*Quartus":3b2ff][quote="Von Paulus":3b2ff]Christianity is an outdated religion, I don't blame people who grew up in the 40s-50s to continue believing in it... Becuase they didn't know any better back then... But people trying to brainwash the new generation... sickens me.[/quote:3b2ff]

What about the people who "grew up" in the last 2 thousand years, did they not know better also? Why does the "new generation" know any better today? Please solve all the world's ills while you still know everything. biggrin:[/quote:3b2ff]

You seem to have strong religous roots and beleifs, why are you then doing diddly squat to help anyone, other than by quoting the bible......ooo thats progress.

If you haven't noticed all I got from this thread is religion being pushed on us

You can believe in God without the Religion shit thrown in

M16: This thread is fuckin gay, let people believe what they want and let them nbot believe what they want

[quote="=[DOA]=VonMeyer":490ba]fire1: Jesus freaks[/quote:490ba]

Thats exactly the kind of shit that is unecessary. Quit it. evil:

[quote="*MoG*Quartus":32a26]It seems a lot of EMOTION and unwarranted HOSTILITY is stirred up when people consider the validity of the Bible, especially from people who have never read it. The cruder replies truely shows a lack of maturity in the authors (preteens?).[/quote:32a26]

validity of the bible? wtf are you on? The bible says god created adam and eve, and that they had three boys, and that from those three boys, the world became populated. How in the blue hell is that valid?

[quote="Von Paulus":4a2de]What's with the emphasis of "LORD" in your sig ? Trying to tell us that Jackson is cooler than he already is 'cos he's quoting the bible ? Err... No.

Christianity is an outdated religion, I don't blame people who grew up in the 40s-50s to continue believing in it... Becuase they didn't know any better back then... But people trying to brainwash the new generation... sickens me.[/quote:4a2de]

Sorry, but I completely and utterly disagree with you there, and as a matter of fact you have very much insulted me. Your saying I'm brainwashed ? Your saying I dont know any better ??

Wookie in a less......insulting way, i think what he is trying to say is that those who grew up with religous background, you know, like say your parents said their prayers before bed, and before eating etc, went to church every sunday, then the chances are they would take you with them, and so you would grow up to do the same with your kids, and they would with their kids, etc etc.
I dont know you or your background wookie, im just using that as an example.
Von Paulus its not that anyones been brainwashed, its just the way theyre brought up. My grandparents were deeply religous, but my parents let me decide what i wanted to do.....i used to have to get a note to get out of church at school.(seriously)
Wookie and most others here arnt preaching their religion on you, (well maybe one springs to mind)
Live and let live.

Sorry Wook, didn't mean to offend anyone... I'm just speaking from personal experience. Like everybody else here is, Except those who quote directly from the bible... The sortof shit I get mailed on a regular basis by my Grandfather has driven me to the brink of insanity... Though I guess I'm offending you by saying it's shit... Hmm, The guy knows I'm an atheist, but he persists... He feels he is above criticism, though he deals it out like there's no tommorow. Because he believes there is something above him, And that thing makes him so much better than everyone else, I'm talking about this "God"... I don't for one second buy into it, For me, it defies logic by any standards...

In the brainwashing remark, I wasn't refering to you... I don't know enough about you to make that judgement. I was refering to the catholic kids in my area, all of which, are religious, "because our parents are." Would you, or would you not say there is brainwashing going on there ??

[quote="Captain Bunny":9ca41]You seem to have strong religous roots and beleifs, why are you then doing diddly squat to help anyone, other than by quoting the bible......ooo thats progress.[/quote:9ca41]

I can't even guess at what you are saying. oOo: What, I'm not helping people in this forum? my neighborhood? the world? I just gave you three things to consider in my original post. It was a opportunity to go beyond a typical superficial topic and think about what you believe and WHY.

Everyone should read through the whole thread before making a off the wall reply, the reason I quote the Bible is that it was the whole point of the topic, the Bible has all the answers to any question or situation you have..

[quote="CSF_Jaizen":7ab60]validity of the bible? The bible says god created adam and eve, and that they had three boys, and that from those three boys, the world became populated. How is that valid?[/quote:7ab60]

The Bible only records the birth of the three sons that were significant in God's plan of redeemtion. The Bible never claims that Eve had ONLY three sons. Also remember that life spans were close to 1000 years which is plenty of time to populate the earth. Of course things changed after the worldwide flood, but thats another topic.

Do you actually know any of this evidence, if so please tell us about it so it can be examined instead of just refering to it. hake:

I quess everyone thinks I like the abuse this topic generated. Let's see, I been called: brainwashed, fanatic (MrX); drone, should be locked in a metal asylum(Innoxx); ignorant (Ninty9); sheep, indoctrinated, enslaved (Solidus); fire1: Jesus freak(=[DOA]=vonmeyer); a horse with blinders on that follows a carrot, closeminded, biblebeating robot, more of a joke than anything else, blind (lowspark).

I won't even go into the profane & vulgar way the Holy Bible has been attacked.

But with 145 replies and 1046 views, i'd say this topic has hit a nerve and needs to be thought about.

Yes I've quoted the Bible alot (as did others) because much can be learned from the past, technology has changed greatly but human nature stays the same.
People still hate, love, lie, betray etc.

To think you have it all figured out by yourself is a dangerous state. To rely solely on your feelings to determine your beliefs can lead to chaos. The more I "learned" in college the more I realized how little I really knew. Theories were taught as truth and God was mocked and man made ruler of himself. The holocaust bares witness to the depraved state man can sink to when left to his own beliefs (of course people are starting to call that fiction too even though there are still survivors left).

I'm sure with all the "views" this topic has generated that others reading this have the same beliefs as me yet don't reply because of the bashing they will receive.

Anyway thanks for the well thought out replies (both pro & con) that keep this thread going. angel:

anyways, I am just happy my Babcia and my other Grandmother don't force religion on me, I don't know if they act different when i'm not there but anyway if I stay over at any of my Grandparents houses basically all I see from them is that they do go to church etc. I don't go, but they don't pray for the things we have, or pray before they go to bed, just go to church and I am fine with that, though my Babcia is getting to the point where it is hard to leave the house, actually I think if my Grandfather, doon't know how to say Grandfather in polish, didn't die when I was 3 months old that I would of known more about the Catholic religion, I would of sacrificed that being thrown on me then to have to live without him because from what my mother tells me he was the more religious out of both her parents and on my other side well My Grandmother thinks "I should do more work" and my Grandpa well.....he just sits in the kitchen watching TV all day, anyways they being Protesant, even them didn't throw religion onto me, actually I have never stepped in a Protesant church other then for my friend Jim Sonar funeral and I went to the Cathelic Church with my uncle various times.

So anyway, my life could of been different, but also my Polish grandfather may not of brought any religion into my life being I was baptised on my fathers side being Protesant....I really don't understand that being it really does nothing. Anyway I do infact being in the chance that there is a higher being but I enjoy my life without knowing about it.

I'll give you this much MoG, you are persistent. oOo: Keep up the word good brother keep up the word!!

oOo: Let me say one thing. I believe in Christ my Savior. The one thing I like about being a christian is that I can have faith and not need proof or science to convince me that its all real. Now for all of you that want show me why I'm wrong in 1000 cases, or call me brainwashed or what have you, I ask you this. What difference does it make to you if I put my blind faith in something that I can't prove? If all I have is faith, then I have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Exactly. Nicely said Bleuachdu.

[quote="*MoG*Quartus":6e97f]
the Bible has all the answers to any question or situation you have..[/quote:6e97f]

Two trains leave their stations at 3pm, one from ohio, one from califronia, now assuming there is a hypothetical railway line that pass each other at the halfway mark, and keeping in mind the time zone differences, what time would they pass each other??

How does a combustion engine work?

In MOHAA, how do you get past the bunkers after stealing the new german gun?

My car was written off after a nasty accident, why wasnt my insurance company pissed off at me, when instead they helped me out so much?

Do you want to rephrase the thing I quoted from you now? answers to everything ...pfft.

That's a good point. I've got a question for you all. Can you really imagine not being?

[quote="SW-14":65bd1]That's a good point. I've got a question for you all. Can you really imagine not being?[/quote:65bd1]

ya, if the big Bang didn't happen

Why imagine it ? You do it every single night...

Aside from your dream state, you don't remember or even KNOW you
exist when sleeping. That, my friend, is NOT BEING.

anyways.......watch a couple porno tapes and take a cold shower and then continue with the bible quotes tomorrow

...drops trousers to ankles, urinates ....c'mere ya....AAAAHH!!...ya FFU!....!!..
falls down...rolls into gutter urniating...... arrGHHH...you fuuuccc...... hup...hurp... blooooargh!!.....c'mere ya ffuu.... eek:

[quote="Captain Bunny":90b9d][quote="*MoG*Quartus":90b9d]
the Bible has all the answers to any question or situation you have..[/quote:90b9d]

How does a combustion engine work?

In MOHAA, how do you get past the bunkers after stealing the new german gun?

My car was written off after a nasty accident, why wasnt my insurance company pissed off at me, when instead they helped me out so much?

Do you want to rephrase the thing I quoted from you now? answers to everything ...pfft.[/quote:90b9d]


Gladly ...pfft.

The Bible has all the answers to any question or situation you have regarding how you should : live a peaceful life, treat your fellowman, treat your parents, treat your wife, treat your children, respect others, handle your finances, behave @ school, behave @ work, contribute to society, react to authority, have a happy marriage or relationship, avoid sexual diseases, labor or rest, grow in true wisdom, not be a fool, be eternally secure, etc, etc.

You know the things that really matter in this life. biggrin:
You get the picture, unless you're a relative of the Tin man.

Ok, but can you imagine it for eternity? I know that when I go to sleep, I will probably wake up the next morning. Also, I believe there has to be an afterlife.

[quote="SW-14":62ce8]Ok, but can you imagine it for eternity? I know that when I go to sleep, I will probably wake up the next morning. Also, I believe there has to be an afterlife.[/quote:62ce8]

you can believe in an afterlife...but not that there has to be one...I don;t know about you...sleep is eternal peace...what more would you want