Yeah, np.

Ok, lets be real here. The world "wants" the U.S. to get involved with affairs such as these. Sorry to break your hearts, but we do have alot of support from other countries with the war on terror.
During the Gulf War, 13 allied countries joined in the fight against Iraq including some Arab nations. During the campaign in Afghanistan, again we were joined by other countries (including those friendly neighbors to the north of us wink:). British Prime Minister Tony Blair stated that they have sufficient evidence that claims Iraq is making nuclear weapons. Do you really believe the U.S. is going into this alone? We may be the front runners but we're gonna have alot of help from most of the countries that the people here live in.

Sloi im a smart US citizen and you are a silly ripped dirty canuck biggrin:

ok back on topic, we should go in and take iraq but not alone, with allies of course, maybe not at this moment but soon

If you cared to read the news, most countries are against this oppression...

And where is this factual evidence they speak of ? I would like to peruse it
instead of taking some moron's word for a change.

It was staged, so we could send forces in. An excuse if you will. hmm is history gonna repeat itself?

I dunno if ur being sarcastic but pearl harbor wasnt stage silly pants biggrin:

No, but just like the WTC incident, it was ALLOWED to happen for the United
States to have a reason for invading another country for something they've
been after for a long time...


EDIT: I'm supposed to believe they didn't see it coming in both cases ?
Puh-leeeeeze.

i was talking about the gulf of tonkin thing.

oh i see, but if we stay out of affairs than we get bitched at "Oh america where the hell are u, big world power is affraid" than if we help "oh america just wants world domination" yeah well i want the world to go fuck themselves M16: eatthis: biggrin:

Just say NO.

So far, there are 3 countries who support a regime takeover in Iraq. The U.S., Great Britain, and Isreal. We'll have to see what comes about from the other world leaders such as China, Russia, France...etc.
I doubt that we'll go to war with Iraq because ultimately, we need the backing from all of them and i know Russia won't give in....they just signed an economic deal with Iraq so there goes the war theory.

From the begining, i always said there was a better alternative than war. A nice lil' assassination would do just fine. But whatever happens, it's sure to stir things up but sometimes you need to weather the storm. There is no easy answer.

I'm gonna have to add Austalia, Spain, Italy, and Kuwait to the list who support the regime takeover. The rest of the world is against a military strike so i believe the U.S. probably won't invade. I don't think Bush is gonna get enough support from congress either.
Only time will tell.

are you kidding? The U.S., Great Britain, and Isreal? Hell thats enough to take over the world biggrin: Specialy isreal with the aimbot hack for headshots ed:
I wouldnt be surprised if One of our jets gets shot down and that starts the war. Bu of course it will be on purpose.

biggrin: The U.S., Great Britain, and Isreal...the true Axis of Evil biggrin:

us is always the good ones , they are always right.

Germ is a true american now! *breaks open a case of piss piss american beer*

[quote="ColinXP [3rdArmy]":f010b]Nice reasoning Wookie, you guys sound brainwashed. I still havn't heard a legit reason for war with Iraq. If Bush can't even come up with one, I highly doubt you guys will be able to.[/quote:f010b]

Oh, ok. So I'm brainwashed because I'm not following your crowd with this hippie anti this anti that crap ? I will not conform to anybody's ideals, I will choose my own, and I feel that (diplomatic solutions completely exhausted) war is right. I dont like war, I dont like the fact that FAMILY is OVER THERE right now. Do you actually know what it's like to have FAMILY in the firing line ?? I bet you have no freakin idea. But them being there is right, and I wish to high hell I was over there with them.

Sloi...you think I dont know what the hell is the main cash cow over there ?? Ofcourse oil plays a picture in this. I've always known that, infact, I have said that before, but getting rid of Saddam is the right thing to do, he should have been taken out of the picture a decade ago.

When it's all said and done, we all have differing opinions on this touchy subject, so perhaps we should just agree to disagree, because no matter what you tell me, your NOT going to change my opinion on this matter or anyone else' that believes the same. Accept that, and just politely move along.

You should shut up and read some of Ted Rall's work on the matter. Perhaps then you would understand how erronous your position is...

I think the majority of us agree that Saddam should be dealt with accordingly, one way or another.

Heh, wow, now I cant voice my opinion without being told to shut up, while others with opposite views to mine can freely voice theirs ?? My view is my own, I dont need someones "expert opinion" on Saddam Hussein. I can draw my own conclusions thankyou very fucking much. And dont tell me shut up again.

Also, please enlighten me as to how my position is erroneous ??

I have no time for a proper extrapolation... so I offer you this solution:

READ some of his articles: he knows what he is talking about. I think it's
safe to assume he knows more than you do by the quality of his writing.

Thats great. But dont tell me to shut up again. I've been reading his articles, they still dont change my views. He has his, I have mine, I accept his views, what I cant stand is people spitting in my face when I voice mine. Thats disrespectful and I have no time for people like that. I will quote what I said to all of you.

[quote:544d2]When it's all said and done, we all have differing opinions on this touchy subject, so perhaps we should just agree to disagree, because no matter what you tell me, your NOT going to change my opinion on this matter or anyone else' that believes the same. Accept that, and just politely move along.[/quote:544d2]

EDIT: Also, last time I looked, this was a debate...was it not ?? There are, in all debates I have been involved in anyway, always 2 sides. Perhaps think about that a little.

hey wook welcome to the minority!

[quote="ColinXP [3rdArmy]":a8516]biggrin: The U.S., Great Britain, and Isreal...the true Axis of Evil biggrin:[/quote:a8516]

Exactly, now where are those old copies of the death camp manuals? evil: ed:

[quote=Totenkopf][/quote:31352]

hake: hake: hake:

You make me sick, it was not allowed to happen, although clintons shitty administration did'nt help. It was not allowed so that we could invade a country.

Same shit could be said about you "army" and your secruity is a joke you guys let everyone and there terrorist grandma in.

P.S. its now going to be fuckin hard to take over a plane, finally the pilots get guns.

My my the world is over. Since when did our friend solidus start using such language? ed:

I'm sure Solidus would agree that ALL western (North America to Europe) armies are just there for "scare-tactics." You guys allways manage to turn a good debate into to a pile of worthless rants about the USA vs. Canada. I will thank all of you in advance for leaving that out of this thread.

[quote="ColinXP [3rdArmy]":c3a70] You guys allways manage to turn a good debate into to a pile of worthless rants about the USA vs. Canada. I will thank all of you in advance for leaving that out of this thread.[/quote:c3a70]

Know kidding. It was fine up till about page 1 1/2. Then it always turns to insults. Why don't you guysargue about the topic and maybe we'll get somewhere instead of insulting each other. SOme of you guys are really big babies.

hahaha ^ i love that Mr. T thing biggrin:

that was my idea cry:

Shuddup!!!!

Muhahahahah!! evil: evil: evil: evil: evil: evil: evil: evil: evil: evil: evil:

And thank you.

I spent a night with the missus and missed all this. what was i thinking!

In my opinion, I'm not really in a position to say wether the US or anyone should go to war or not. I only know what the media has told me, and in my experience, the media is mostly BS. I dont know what weapons Saddam has or hasnt got, I dont know and I dont care. I am not in the military, i am not going to be sent over to iraq to fight, i am not going to join up with the "We are l337" attitude. If things hit home, thats when i'd give a sheet. I can understand that a lot of americans want to take action over sept 11th, and in my opinion Bush will use any war he can to make it look like hes doing something about it, and all the time, tony blair will be sniffing at his crotch to make it look like britian is doing something about terrorism too, and all the time, the media will be portraying it as good vrs evil. Mighty US and UK against the Evil Saddam to gain public backing, then and only then with support of the public, and fewer opposers would they actually venture into a war. Now dont get me wrong, I know saddam is no saint, but when all i read about is "he has nuclear weapons" then "he has nuclear capabilities" meaning he doesnt have nukes but could get them, well duh!, anyone is able to get nuclear weapons with the right money and contacts.
Our governments will never ever let out as much information as they know, and frankly i like it that way. I dont want to know if Saddam is going to nuke our countries. could you imagine the wide spread panic that would result?? people would buy out shops and stock up with supplies and cause more damage to the economy with their demands, and not to mention religous suicides.
Frankly, right now, Im not saying we should ignore the problem, we should continue the fight, but in our own countries. Airport checks, ID cards, crack down on illegal imports and illegal immigrants, money would be better off spent on that than some missiles. As for our armys, or any country for that matter, our soldiers would be of better use fighting forest fires, clearing up earthquake damage, storm damage, being a useful service to not just our nations, but to our public. Wage war in our countries before be go overseas..........but, thats only my opinion.

One thing though, wish the americans here who diss the french should maybe remember they came to your rescue and if it werent for them you would be spelling colour and flavour with the u. And you wouldnt have your famous Statue of Liberty either.

ohh, and on another note, electricity was discovered, not invented.

the frenchys dont like us. MAYBE thats why its always with the canada vs usa threads, french influenced canada has same views as frenchys. They dont like usa angel:

I enjoy long walks on the beach

Meh, i respect the french, you gotta admit they have been through alot, and a young country such as america should know better. BTW, uk combined with the french would be an ideal coalition, since both countries are way more experienced with desert warfare, france does have an army, maybe not a big one, but they can hold their own. IMO america is a nice place, but i don't see myself living in a country like that.

[quote="Old Reliable":37a35]I enjoy long walks on the beach[/quote:37a35]

Yeah, with your mom.

Hey, Inoxx your sig...its wrong Harriers are not even close to being the pride of our military...far from it.

I cant believe so many Americans died to bring this country to it feet only a few generations later is controlled by a corporate administrations with no absolute fucking common sense and can only spell M-O-N-E-Y.

As far as I know, Saudi Arabia's ruling regime should be toppled and democarcy restored there. After that America should use its power to get Israels greedy hands of Paletine and stop the oppression of its people by young ignorant, arrogant soldiers who snipe civilians and shoot defenceless people/reporters.

can you say warped oOo: