Shh, lets just let Pyro believe he has good points and he'll go away...hes just jealous...thats all.

[quote="Old Reliable":07240]thumbs down...flag has no meaning anymore[/quote:07240]

What the flag stands for is disgusting. Its a peice of cloth not who and what your are.

Im not a punk fan but Anti-Flag said it best.


Don't fly those stripes those stars for me, for me, They stand for hate they stand for greed.

It's not America its a symbol of the old Imperialistic America. Not who your are.

jealous of what? Living in peace with the only thing to worry about is our own government making gas prices so high?

I don't walk out of my house scared of being shot, I see 162 gun murders a year in a gun toting country (we have lots of guns) and 11 thousand in america...like I don't know.

Look, I could care less if my country was economically worse. We are a 1st world country and we are not in a war. Nothing could be better.

[quote="Short Hand":1e844][quote="Old Reliable":1e844]thumbs down...flag has no meaning anymore[/quote:1e844]

What the flag stands for is disgusting. Its a peice of cloth not who and what your are.

Im not a punk fan but Anti-Flag said it best.


Don't fly those stripes those stars for me, for me, They stand for hate they stand for greed.

It's not America its a symbol of the old Imperialistic America. Not who your are.[/quote:1e844]

I must say something.

Anti-Flag is the most hypocritical pieces of shit I've ever had the displeasure of listening too.

That right there stands for liberty freedom and justice. And we got that.

JUST THINK OF HOW MANY PEOPLE DIED DEFENDING OUR FREEDOM. I would fight to my last breath for that thing...so fuck you.

And Pyro is a thug, watch out.

America has a much better justice system than we have. The only thing I don't see is that I don't believe you're truly free.

You fight for your president wishes now, not for your freedom. World Wars were a long time ago, now you're the one starting the wars...

Pyro. (as I sad im not a punk fan. I just liked the lyric.)

Interested.( The fake freedom it represents to you was built off the blood and suffering of others.) Again the flag isn't America neither is any flag. How many of the stars on that thing were taken from Mexico in Agression ? How many of those Stars Were taken from Natives by Force,by killing them ?). America is great people. I just don't see whyyou would want something so blood stained to represent you.

Flags are left to interpretation. Today we see the Nazi flag as evil, however germans in 1938 saw it as a meaning to their life.

Remmeber how those stars got there though. They got their on the lives of others.


All i see in the Nazi flag is how one man took a symbol of Hinduism and turned it into one of the most vile symbols on the face of this planet.

Flag worshipping is stupid IMO. Why we love our flag so much I dont know. No other country has their flags all over used car dealships and street corners unless it is a national holiday or something.

I think my flag is far prettier

Flags are pieces of cloth nothing more.

the flag stands for both bad things and great things, so i'm neutral on this country