[quote="Short Hand":fb421]Pyro the point is we can stop abortion morally, It is not a ideal to kill something to make your life more convient. It is stopable and unlike war does not need death for a simple solution.[/quote:fb421]

well most deaths are too make life more convient...do I think abortion is right...no...do I care...not really...it isn't my kid.

[quote=Pyro]omg protestants you believe in somethings we don't...die you mother fuckers...DIE LETS KILL YOU NWO!!!!!!!! KILLING is fun...but letting a baby die is wrong but i can kill millions because my god says it's ok becasuse I interpret things the wrong way and my religion is the msot hypocritical and corrupted piece of shit in the world.[/quote:7f225]

Pyro I like ya, but you don't have a clue. rolleyes:

[quote=Pyro]well most deaths are too make life more convient...do I think abortion is right...no...do I care...not really...it isn't my kid.[/quote:75d03]

Its not your life either.

I fucking hate this country.

A poll run by ABC said that 74% of Americans were against Partial-Birth Abortions, with another 9% being impartial. That means that a whopping 17% of the public managed to legalize the literal murder of a human being seconds from taking its first breath of air.

God fucking damnit I hate liberalistic shit like this with every fiber of my being.

Its not liberal. Neither is it anything else. It is a neutral dead issue. I consider my self an avid liberal or "left winger" and i take a firm stance against this thing. Trust me a many a liberals are against it as, conservatives support it and vice versa etc. Its not an issue defined by your affiliation or preference but by yourv personal code of ethics. Which if you hadn't notice liberalism tends to show more of then conservatism ever does Noc. biggrin:

[quote="Short Hand":344a1]Its not liberal. Neither is it anything else. It is a neutral dead issue. I consider my self an avid liberal or "left winger" and i take a firm stance against this thing. Trust me a many a liberals are against it as, conservatives support it and vice versa etc. Its not an issue defined by your affiliation or preference but by yourv personal code of ethics. Which if you hadn't notice liberalism tends to show more of then conservatism ever does Noc. biggrin:[/quote:344a1]

Liberals on average seem to support it, atleats the "big" liberals say they do. Anyways Conservatives are the ones fighting it, but I don't acre who stops it, somebody must.

Late term should only be acceptable if the mother's life is in danger; in this case we are talking 2 casualties vs. 1, the logical choice is one.

I consider the fetus to be alive at this point; unlike early abortions the baby is essentially alive and must be "finished off" (as cold as that sounds *shudder*) after it is removed from the womb.

So unless the mother is in mortal danger it should be illegal at this stage in development.

One of the pillars of Liberal beliefs is being Pro-Choice. So yeah, might want to find a new word or call yourself a Centrist or Independant or something.

Side note: Out of curiousity (I live in South Carolina, so I don't see a lot of Liberal influence down here like I did in Virginia) - has anyone happened to hear John Kerry get through a campaign pitch without bashing the President? I ask because they don't televise very many down here, I mostly have to watch them via the internet (I like to be as educated as possible on the opponent so that I know the issues). Anyway, all the ones I have seen at least 50% are spent bashing President Bush without ever even giving any sort of plausible or firm suggestion of a solution. I don't know, that just irritates the hell out of me.

I didn't mean to derail this thread, don't answer that, I already know that's what he does.

Bottom line, baby killers will spend an eternity in Hell getting ass-raped by Mike Tyson while Rosie O'Donnell shoves her dick down their throats.

If Hell existed maybe i'd care...

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imwithstupid:

Your atheist beliefs are so cool, Pyro.

All the kids at school must envy your overwhelming coolness when you take every opportunity to remind them that you believe in nothing at all and that they are idiots for choosing to believe in some greater existance.

To have a Pyro moment here, I think atheists are sad, pathetic individuals who choose to justify their moral bankruptcy by convincing themselves that they will never really have to pay for their actions. So just try and get through a thread without reminding us all that you're a dumbfuck, thanks.

I'm not athiest or agnostic.

I believe there is a chance there is a God, I can't prove either way...but I also couldn't give a shit if there was or not.

you complain about "liberals" attacking Christians and yet you attack non-Christians?

pot this is kettle, pot this is kettle, color check please, over

/me really really really really wishes that he has banning power for the messageboards.