[quote:fb8a6]How exactly can you know if that is what they want as well though. It seems the Middle- East and so on don't exactly like how the Western world is run. I also don't believe you should follow the government because of it. I know it is wrong to use Hitler in this case, but shit can happen if everyone has the same mindset.[/quote:fb8a6]

Its not a matter of being a mindset. I do not consider myself a puppet of the United States Government. For me its about defending the basic values and rights of humanity. In regards to your comment about "petty tyrants.. and use of hitler as an example..." Remember this. At one point hitler was nothing more than a "petty" corpral. In 1991 Iraq had one of the largest military forces in the world. If the gulf war had not occured in 90's there is no telling where we would be today.

Can you guys quit getting mad at others for having different opinions from you? This is strickly for information purposes, not to fight over mindless shit.

[quote=Pyro][quote=Arkan][quote=Pyro][quote=Arkan][quote="Pyro":1f9c4][quote="Arkan":1f9c4][quote="Pyro":1f9c4][quote="Arkan":1f9c4][quote="Pyro":1f9c4]Well the federal election is tomorrow, and i'd like to know more about it befor eI choose who to vote for. I just thought i'd ask people from a country who is under conservative ideologies right now.[/quote:1f9c4]

Are you sure America is under conservative ideologies right now? What makes you believe that? Did you consult your nextdoor neighbor to find out what their ideas are? Do you have a problem coming to conclusions on your own that you have to consult others in different countries? How ever did you make it through school?[/quote:1f9c4]

Isn't Republicans on the right of the political spectrum? The opposite of the Democrast which would be on the left? In school I learned from teachers who knew what I didn't. I have basic knowledge which I showcased earlier about the original idea and history of conservatism.[/quote:1f9c4]

Did they teach you to be an annoying prick....or did it just come natural?
You're like a knat on my nut-sac after i moved the lawn on a hot summers day![/quote:1f9c4]

That doesn't answer the question.[/quote:1f9c4]

You tell me smart ass. Lets see how smart those teachers were.[/quote:1f9c4]

I already stated I only know of classic conservatism. I am asking how conservatism is implemented right now.[/quote:1f9c4]

Well, lets see if i can answer your question. As far as the Government being "Conservative", i would think not just by the actions taken the past few years. Now, as far as the "people of America" and their views, i can't answer that. We have conservatives, liberals, and, unfortunately, people like yourself.

....did i answer your question or do i have to sit here all fucking night having a worthless debate with you?[/quote:1f9c4]

I guess having an open mind is a terrible thing now. You could always tell me your views on how the government is being run at this point and what you like and might like changed etc.[/quote:1f9c4]

Well shit, why don't you come over to my house for a cup of tea and perhaps we'll solve the worlds problems?

[quote="[GDC]_Polemarcus":b8efa][quote:b8efa]How exactly can you know if that is what they want as well though. It seems the Middle- East and so on don't exactly like how the Western world is run. I also don't believe you should follow the government because of it. I know it is wrong to use Hitler in this case, but shit can happen if everyone has the same mindset.[/quote:b8efa]

Its not a matter of being a mindset. I do not consider myself a puppet of the United States Government. For me its about defending the basic values and rights of humanity. In regards to your comment about "petty tyrants.. and use of hitler as an example..." Remember this. At one point hitler was nothing more than a "petty" corpral. In 1991 Iraq had one of the largest military forces in the world. If the gulf war had not occured in 90's there is no telling where we would be today.[/quote:b8efa]

I was too young at that time to know much about what was going on then.

[quote=Arkan][quote=Pyro][quote=Arkan][quote=Pyro][quote="Arkan":26ce5][quote="Pyro":26ce5][quote="Arkan":26ce5][quote="Pyro":26ce5][quote="Arkan":26ce5][quote="Pyro":26ce5]Well the federal election is tomorrow, and i'd like to know more about it befor eI choose who to vote for. I just thought i'd ask people from a country who is under conservative ideologies right now.[/quote:26ce5]

Are you sure America is under conservative ideologies right now? What makes you believe that? Did you consult your nextdoor neighbor to find out what their ideas are? Do you have a problem coming to conclusions on your own that you have to consult others in different countries? How ever did you make it through school?[/quote:26ce5]

Isn't Republicans on the right of the political spectrum? The opposite of the Democrast which would be on the left? In school I learned from teachers who knew what I didn't. I have basic knowledge which I showcased earlier about the original idea and history of conservatism.[/quote:26ce5]

Did they teach you to be an annoying prick....or did it just come natural?
You're like a knat on my nut-sac after i moved the lawn on a hot summers day![/quote:26ce5]

That doesn't answer the question.[/quote:26ce5]

You tell me smart ass. Lets see how smart those teachers were.[/quote:26ce5]

I already stated I only know of classic conservatism. I am asking how conservatism is implemented right now.[/quote:26ce5]

Well, lets see if i can answer your question. As far as the Government being "Conservative", i would think not just by the actions taken the past few years. Now, as far as the "people of America" and their views, i can't answer that. We have conservatives, liberals, and, unfortunately, people like yourself.

....did i answer your question or do i have to sit here all fucking night having a worthless debate with you?[/quote:26ce5]

I guess having an open mind is a terrible thing now. You could always tell me your views on how the government is being run at this point and what you like and might like changed etc.[/quote:26ce5]

Well shit, why don't you come over to my house for a cup of tea and perhaps we'll solve the worlds problems?[/quote:26ce5]

It would be a little far-fetched that our meeting could have any effect on the problems of the world. But knowing of these problems would be of great interest.

didn't read through all these pages, but I'd definately go to war if my country called for me. If I don't go, who will, right?

[quote="Garry Coleman":75267]didn't read through all these pages, but I'd definately go to war if my country called for me. If I don't go, who will, right?[/quote:75267]

Would you go for any reason though? Is there any possible situation that you might ever say no?

[quote=Pyro][quote=Arkan][quote=Pyro][quote=Arkan][quote="Pyro":2517b][quote="Arkan":2517b][quote="Pyro":2517b][quote="Arkan":2517b][quote="Pyro":2517b][quote="Arkan":2517b][quote="Pyro":2517b]Well the federal election is tomorrow, and i'd like to know more about it befor eI choose who to vote for. I just thought i'd ask people from a country who is under conservative ideologies right now.[/quote:2517b]

Are you sure America is under conservative ideologies right now? What makes you believe that? Did you consult your nextdoor neighbor to find out what their ideas are? Do you have a problem coming to conclusions on your own that you have to consult others in different countries? How ever did you make it through school?[/quote:2517b]

Isn't Republicans on the right of the political spectrum? The opposite of the Democrast which would be on the left? In school I learned from teachers who knew what I didn't. I have basic knowledge which I showcased earlier about the original idea and history of conservatism.[/quote:2517b]

Did they teach you to be an annoying prick....or did it just come natural?
You're like a knat on my nut-sac after i moved the lawn on a hot summers day![/quote:2517b]

That doesn't answer the question.[/quote:2517b]

You tell me smart ass. Lets see how smart those teachers were.[/quote:2517b]

I already stated I only know of classic conservatism. I am asking how conservatism is implemented right now.[/quote:2517b]

Well, lets see if i can answer your question. As far as the Government being "Conservative", i would think not just by the actions taken the past few years. Now, as far as the "people of America" and their views, i can't answer that. We have conservatives, liberals, and, unfortunately, people like yourself.

....did i answer your question or do i have to sit here all fucking night having a worthless debate with you?[/quote:2517b]

I guess having an open mind is a terrible thing now. You could always tell me your views on how the government is being run at this point and what you like and might like changed etc.[/quote:2517b]

Well shit, why don't you come over to my house for a cup of tea and perhaps we'll solve the worlds problems?[/quote:2517b]

It would be a little far-fetched that our meeting could have any effect on the problems of the world. But knowing of these problems would be of great interest.[/quote:2517b]

You're begining to sound like Confucius.

Please, stop quoting dance:

[quote=Arkan][quote=Pyro][quote=Arkan][quote=Pyro][quote="Arkan":a74bb][quote="Pyro":a74bb][quote="Arkan":a74bb][quote="Pyro":a74bb][quote="Arkan":a74bb][quote="Pyro":a74bb][quote="Arkan":a74bb][quote="Pyro":a74bb]Well the federal election is tomorrow, and i'd like to know more about it befor eI choose who to vote for. I just thought i'd ask people from a country who is under conservative ideologies right now.[/quote:a74bb]

Are you sure America is under conservative ideologies right now? What makes you believe that? Did you consult your nextdoor neighbor to find out what their ideas are? Do you have a problem coming to conclusions on your own that you have to consult others in different countries? How ever did you make it through school?[/quote:a74bb]

Isn't Republicans on the right of the political spectrum? The opposite of the Democrast which would be on the left? In school I learned from teachers who knew what I didn't. I have basic knowledge which I showcased earlier about the original idea and history of conservatism.[/quote:a74bb]

Did they teach you to be an annoying prick....or did it just come natural?
You're like a knat on my nut-sac after i moved the lawn on a hot summers day![/quote:a74bb]

That doesn't answer the question.[/quote:a74bb]

You tell me smart ass. Lets see how smart those teachers were.[/quote:a74bb]

I already stated I only know of classic conservatism. I am asking how conservatism is implemented right now.[/quote:a74bb]

Well, lets see if i can answer your question. As far as the Government being "Conservative", i would think not just by the actions taken the past few years. Now, as far as the "people of America" and their views, i can't answer that. We have conservatives, liberals, and, unfortunately, people like yourself.

....did i answer your question or do i have to sit here all fucking night having a worthless debate with you?[/quote:a74bb]

I guess having an open mind is a terrible thing now. You could always tell me your views on how the government is being run at this point and what you like and might like changed etc.[/quote:a74bb]

Well shit, why don't you come over to my house for a cup of tea and perhaps we'll solve the worlds problems?[/quote:a74bb]

It would be a little far-fetched that our meeting could have any effect on the problems of the world. But knowing of these problems would be of great interest.[/quote:a74bb]

You're begining to sound like Confucius.[/quote:a74bb]

Don't know much about him except that he was some kind of chinese philosopher.

[quote=Pyro]Its not a matter of being a mindset. I do not consider myself a puppet of the United States Government. For me its about defending the basic values and rights of humanity. In regards to your comment about "petty tyrants.. and use of hitler as an example..." Remember this. At one point hitler was nothing more than a "petty" corpral. In 1991 Iraq had one of the largest military forces in the world. If the gulf war had not occured in 90's there is no telling where we would be today.[/quote:efe64][/quote:efe64]

Well that should be enough logic for you then...

At one point Iraq had the capability to take over the entire middle east. The allied forces forcefully removed the Republican Guard and liberated Kuwait. 12 years later, we are in this situation. Granted no WMD's have been found yet, but important officials had serious reasons to believe the bath party had WMD's in their posession. 12 years after the fact, humiliated by defeat, Hussein would have every reason to use those weapons on the middle east and any opposing forces... now i know hind sight is 20/20, but what IF he had them, what IF we did nothing, and what IF they were used. If anything learn from our previous mistakes.



1919 The treaty of versailles was signed limiting the germans for establishing a military

In the years to come the German Military would build the most powerful navy and airforce in the world, while everyone just sat back and watched... What IF we took action sooner?

Why ?

[quote="[GDC]_Polemarcus":1a66e]Well that should be enough logic for you then...

At one point Iraq had the capability to take over the entire middle east. The allied forces forcefully removed the Republican Guard and liberated Kuwait. 12 years later, we are in this situation. Granted no WMD's have been found yet, but important officials had serious reasons to believe the bath party had WMD's in their posession. 12 years after the fact, humiliated by defeat, Hussein would have every reason to use those weapons on the middle east and any opposing forces... now i know hind sight is 20/20, but what IF he had them, what IF we did nothing, and what IF they were used. If anything learn from our previous mistakes.



1919 The treaty of versailles was signed limiting the germans for establishing a military

In the years to come the German Military would build the most powerful navy and airforce in the world, while everyone just sat back and watched... What IF we took action sooner?[/quote:1a66e]

WHy not North Korea before Iraq?

[quote=Pyro]WHy not North Korea before Iraq?[/quote:b80a4]

Shit, good one. Perhaps we'll blow those fuckers up next!! Don't ya just love those slanty-eyed fuckers?

[quote=Pyro]Would you go for any reason though? Is there any possible situation that you might ever say no?[/quote:c18e1]

Yes, I would decline to server in the military If its objective was to forcefully take over, and occupy a nation with the intent of never restoring proper sovereignty