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Sgt>Stackem 12-03-2004 03:07 PM

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One bad apple hunter is enough to show that shit can happen...like that guy who shot all the other hunters. I don't know, but not all hunters are exactly expert marksman...what happnes if some little girl is walking in a forest with her dad and gets shot...


what if monkeys flew up your butt?

that has a lot less chance of happening in North America, than killings from stupid hunters.

Someone got killed walking down the train tracks the other day. Maybe we should ban trains. Stupids trains are to blame.[/quote:d878a]


more people die in swimming pools than hunting, more people die on bikes than hunting, more people die in cars than hunting, more people dies from drugs than hunting....................................

Scalping Chief 12-03-2004 03:10 PM

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One bad apple hunter is enough to show that shit can happen...like that guy who shot all the other hunters. I don't know, but not all hunters are exactly expert marksman...what happnes if some little girl is walking in a forest with her dad and gets shot...


what if monkeys flew up your butt?

that has a lot less chance of happening in North America, than killings from stupid hunters.

Someone got killed walking down the train tracks the other day. Maybe we should ban trains. Stupids trains are to blame.[/quote:423ed]


more people die in swimming pools than hunting, more people die on bikes than hunting, more people die in cars than hunting, more people dies from drugs than hunting....................................[/quote:423ed]
yet smoking kills more people than anything else and they do nothing about that, and they cause all this shit about hunting.

Pick Axe 12-03-2004 04:38 PM

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One bad apple hunter is enough to show that shit can happen...like that guy who shot all the other hunters. I don't know, but not all hunters are exactly expert marksman...what happnes if some little girl is walking in a forest with her dad and gets shot...


what if monkeys flew up your butt?

that has a lot less chance of happening in North America, than killings from stupid hunters.[/quote:89c0f]

Last year there were 4 people killed in Texas due to huntings accidents. 4, in the whole state of Texas, and a lot of people hunt in Texas. You say to outlaw guns because of those deaths, yet in 2002, 45 people died a day due to drunk driving related car wrecks. 45 a day. I don't hear you saying that alcohol should be outlawed. I'm not saying it is possible to outlaw alcohol, or that it should be, but you are biased in you crusade to protect the common people.

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They're just as fun as shooting a Glock. I've shot an AK-47, SKS and Glock and they are all equally fun. Once you fire off 30 from an AK, you'll change your mind.

You get a thrill out of using something designed to kill people ? It's not a fucking video game. THese things are for fucking wars, not for your fucking recreational use.[/quote:89c0f]

You ever go target shooting with a Bow and arrow? Ever picked up a replica sword and give it a swing? Ever played a trumpet? Ever shot off fireworks?

All of those things, yes even the trumpet (to rally troops), are derived from weapons and tools of war, just like guns.

And, if I take what You are saying literally, you're only supposed to use an assault rifle to kill people? You can't use it in another, safe way for recreation? Hmm...

[quote="Short Hand":89c0f]ummm. So you are tryig to get them out of the hands of Arabs thousands of miles away, yet place them in the hands of millions of white people(majority) in America....[/quote:89c0f]

No, those terroists have automatic weapons, rocket propelled grenades, ect. things that are outlawed. Just because it is an assault rifle, that does not mean that it shots fully automatic. Which leads to an unanswered question:

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okay...


Well like Axe said, what do you consider an assault rifle?

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Maplegyver 12-03-2004 05:07 PM

An assault weapon. a gun designed for military and law enforcement use, lets see what the dictionary says.




Assault rifle

n : any of the automatic rifles or semiautomatic rifles with large magazines designed for military use [syn: assault gun]

Hawke 12-03-2004 05:28 PM

Accorindg to [url=http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcassaul.html:4da6b]this[/url:4da6b], non-military style semi-automatic firearms are just as powerful military-style semi-automatic firearms.


Heres another thing:
[quote:4da6b]In fact most assault weapons are less powerful than hunting rifles.[/quote:4da6b]

Another:
[quote:4da6b]Assault weapons are not the weapons of choice among drug dealers, gang members or criminals in general. Assault weapons are used in about one-fifth of one percent (.20%) of all violent crimes and about one percent in gun crimes. It is estimated that from one to seven percent of all homicides are committed with assault weapons (rifles of any type are involved in three to four percent of all homicides). However a higher percentage are used in police homicides, roughly ten percent. (There has been no consistent trend in this rate from 1978 through 1996.) Between 1992 and 1996 less than 4% of mass murders, committed with guns, involved assault weapons. (Our deadliest mass murders have either involved arson or bombs.)[/quote:4da6b]

[quote:4da6b]There are close to 4 million assault weapons in the U.S., which amounts to roughly 1.7% of the total gun stock.[/quote:4da6b]

[quote:4da6b]However, current "assault weapon" legislation defines certain semi-automatic weapons as "assault weapons.[/quote:4da6b]
Certain, not all.

[quote:4da6b]An example of assault weapon legislation is the Federal 1994 Crime Bill. The bill in part outlaws new civilian manufacture of certain semi-automatic assault weapons. It also prohibits new civilian manufacture of "large capacity ammunition feeding devices" declared certain weapons as assault weapons, and states a semi-automatic rifle is an assault weapon if it can accept a detachable magazine and has two or more of the following:

A folding or telescoping stock
A pistol grip
A bayonet mount
A flash suppressor, or threads to attach one
A grenade launcher.
(For the Crime Bill's definition of assault shotguns and pistols, a list of assault weapons, and further legal issues see Crime Bill FAQ.) [/quote:4da6b]

Plus there is much more.

You can hunt with some, but few, assault rifles. [AR-15 = .223 which you can hunt prarie dog] Which gives citizens a purpose to own them.

Also, if there is no need for a civilian to own a assault rifle, then there is no need for a civilian to own a glock, beretta ect. You can do just as much if not more with an assault rifle than a pistol.

Maplegyver 12-03-2004 05:35 PM

you have to much time on your heands. your 13 why do you care about owning a gun?

Hawke 12-03-2004 05:40 PM

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you have to much time on your heands. your 13 why do you care about owning a gun?

You have posted 6848 [10.01 posts per day] times and I have to much time on my hands?

I plan on owning guns in the future. I am just saying not every assault rifle is useless and meaningless.

TonyMontana 12-03-2004 05:41 PM

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you have to much time on your heands. your 13 why do you care about owning a gun?

You have posted 6848 [10.01 posts per day] times and I have to much time on my hands?

I plan on owning guns in the future. I am just saying not every assault rifle is useless and meaningless.

10 posts a day can be accomplished in a span of 5 minutes

Hawke 12-03-2004 05:42 PM

But 6848 posts can't. [Unless you're Sclass]

Maplegyver 12-03-2004 06:05 PM

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you have to much time on your heands. your 13 why do you care about owning a gun?

You have posted 6848 [10.01 posts per day] times and I have to much time on my hands?

I plan on owning guns in the future. I am just saying not every assault rifle is useless and meaningless.

thanks for checking me out

Pyro 12-03-2004 06:16 PM

Hunting for sport isn't necessary, commuting on a train for work is. Drusg are ILLEGAL, i don't see how anyone can make an argument for ILLEGAL stuff, cuz techically they are banned. Hell in ontario you get more shit for smoking than shooting a gun with our laws.

Hawke 12-03-2004 06:24 PM

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Hunting for sport isn't necessary, commuting on a train for work is. Drusg are ILLEGAL, i don't see how anyone can make an argument for ILLEGAL stuff, cuz techically they are banned. Hell in ontario you get more shit for smoking than shooting a gun with our laws.

Yes but not all Assault Rifles are banned.

Pyro 12-03-2004 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyro
Hunting for sport isn't necessary, commuting on a train for work is. Drusg are ILLEGAL, i don't see how anyone can make an argument for ILLEGAL stuff, cuz techically they are banned. Hell in ontario you get more shit for smoking than shooting a gun with our laws.

Yes but not all Assault Rifles are banned.

which is why i said you can't compare hunting animals to drugsm because one actually is illegal. Actually fine, if weed was legalized i would be ok with hunting being acceptable.

Hawke 12-03-2004 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyro
Hunting for sport isn't necessary, commuting on a train for work is. Drusg are ILLEGAL, i don't see how anyone can make an argument for ILLEGAL stuff, cuz techically they are banned. Hell in ontario you get more shit for smoking than shooting a gun with our laws.

It may not be necessary but people like to do it. Which gives a reason why people would use an assault rifle.


I see what you are trying to say. There is absolutely no need which is true. But they can be used legally which is why people have them. [Prarie dog,practicing]

Pyro 12-03-2004 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyro
Hunting for sport isn't necessary, commuting on a train for work is. Drusg are ILLEGAL, i don't see how anyone can make an argument for ILLEGAL stuff, cuz techically they are banned. Hell in ontario you get more shit for smoking than shooting a gun with our laws.

It may not be necessary but people like to do it. Which gives a reason why people would use an assault rifle.


I see what you are trying to say. There is absolutely no need which is true. But they can be used legally which is why people have them. [Prarie dog,practicing]

but there are ways to do it...like joining the military, if you're so inclined to shoot guns, become a cop or join the military where it can have more use.


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