[quote="mr.miyagi":4922d]I jus think its sad how you all need guns to defend yourselves thats all, I mean Canada has tons of guns but their gun murder rate is tiny, America's is the biggest in the world....hundreds of other countries have no guns and obviously have no gun murders ever.
You may say more lives are saved because of gun ownership? well thats silly because look at all of the lives taken in the process to balance it out, thousands and thousands. Just because lives are saved because of them doesn't take away the fact theres so many taken in the process.

And Duke_of_ray can go fuck himself, your comment about banning things left right and centre was a retarded one and just showed your brain doesn't work behind those oOo: eyes. I'm talking about imagining the difference if there was no guns, I'm not saying ban them all NOW!!!!!
I never have to worry about getting shot or shooting anyone ever and thats a nice feeling to have, say if someone wants to knife me then bring it on.
Guns are just for pussies biggrin:

Its more of a discussion rather than a protest. I do realise your culture and rights are different from my country too, just expressing an opinion cool:[/quote:4922d]

I am just say imagine the differance if there was no alcohol, just imagine. Thank you. freak:

No, the right to own firearms, or more basicly rights in and of themselves. And I didn't say your government is oppressing you, I said your government doesn't trust you. I also did not ask for any changes to be made in your countrys.

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guns dont kill people, bullets do

[quote="Short Hand":572e4]I give up with trying to argue republicans.[/quote:572e4]

I'm a Democrat.

guns don't kill people...people with guns kill people.

Eight is right it is the people, not the guns that kill people.People with (insert object) kill people. You could be killed by someone using a newspaper.

Yeah, that's true.....But it's ALOT easier to kill someone with a gun than a newspaper.

....and in case you've forgot, the government IS the people, so effectively we don't trust OURSELVES enough to have unstrict gun laws, which I say is fair enough. We don't have that kind of government vs people type of mentality in our country, maybe because we trust our government is merely providing for us.

In New Zealand (Australia, and England also I assume), you can own and shoot guns when you earn the right by getting a license and proving through commitment of time and effort your requirement to own a gun. So you can still own guns, it's just the laws are strict.

Government is the people?

I hope it hasn't gone that far, because politicians are a true disgrace to the human race.

[quote="dr nein":b2a76]Government is the people?

I hope it hasn't gone that far, because politicians are a true disgrace to the human race.[/quote:b2a76]

That's where the two countries are different....(Although alot of our politicians are wankers also)

heres one fact you all seem to miss: in america, people who buy guns with intent to commit crime dont buy them legally, because it can be traced back to them through gun registration. Guns used in crimes are as illegal here as they are anywhere. The only difference is, here the average citizen can defend himself. I'd explain it better, but Im in a rush atm

There isnt a necessity to own guns in the US, its a want. People want guns. If all guns in the US were to magically disappear, the demand would still be high enough for citizens and criminals to smuggle them in or make their own. The US is a dangerous place to live in, especially if you live in a large metro area like NY, DC, Chicago, Philly, and S California. Its a fact that Americans have to live with.

[quote="Eight Ace":a6b09]guns don't kill people...people with guns kill people.[/quote:a6b09]

His right. Lets get rid of all the people. cuss:

[quote="Jimbo@":81c31][quote="Eight Ace":81c31]guns don't kill people...people with guns kill people.[/quote:81c31]

His right. Lets get rid of all the people. cuss:[/quote:81c31]

[quote="Jimbo@":70a3c][quote="Eight Ace":70a3c]guns don't kill people...people with guns kill people.[/quote:70a3c]

His right. Lets get rid of all the people. cuss:[/quote:70a3c]
mwah!!

[quote=Akuma][quote="Jimbo@":bfd11]His right. Lets get rid of all the people. cuss:[/quote:bfd11][/quote:bfd11]
hello? I didn't say get rid of all people...just those with guns, that's right...all people without guns
rise up and kick the shit out of all those gun toting armed to the teeth trigger happy ..erm nvm.. loney: