Chango made some interesting points.

There are a few beliefs and theories that I woulld like to share on the subject of Spirtuallity.

1st off , I'm not a Christ follower. I began exploring the religions of the world several years ago now , and I decided that the Christ focused religions are not true to themselves and were not for me.

Now I LOVE Archaeology. And Pinhead is right about a few things.

They have used the bible as a guide to discover several Bible related sites and artifacts.

To include , Sadam & Gamora , The real Mt.Sinia , Noahs Flood , and countless cities that were not suposed to have even existed in the non-biblical world.

But the bible is NOT a direct historical map , it is not designed to be. Many of the stories , places and events do not exist or have been included as a moral lesson , not historical fact.

Now personally I do believe Jesus was on this earth and did the things that his is famous for.
However I do not believe he was the son of a god.

All we have are the writtings of those around him , and as Chango pointed out , those have been edited for content and translated through several languages by people who were not there.

Personally , I believe that the Vatican has some of the awnsers to the mysteries that surround His life and the truth of the bible.

But I do not think that we will ever see it. I believe it is hidden because it will cause un-repairable damage to the church as a state.

Jesus did not want us to confess to a priest , worship in a building , or look anywhere outside ourselves for " God " . We are to look within.

As far as crying statues and images appearing on walls:

One man would say : " I see the virgin mother on the wall ! "

But the next would say : " Wait , I see a Hotdog with Chilli..."

These are certainly objects of perception. But , there is so much that is not understood that it does diserve our attention.

I really enjoy seeing these stories and events covered by a non-relgious sorce.
The Vatican investigates thousands of " miracles " every year. They ALWAYS say it is a hoax , nothiing more to see folks....

And of corse , One Year will not change a persons views on their spirtuallity.

Each person must make there path and follow it.
The truth is inside of us. Search yourself for awnsers.
I chose Buddism because there is no god to pray to , there is no sin , there is no church , or certain understnding one must have.
All you need is you. All answers are there waiting for you to understand.

give it a break

There is not enough proof to prove if God exists or doesn't exist.

By saying homosexuality isn'r real...it's like saying being sad, tired, bored, and other emotions humans can feel are not real either. Feeling attracted to guys must be a real thing.

[quote="[22nd Elite] Cloud":d1699]who made GOD?

did he just poof iam here, howdy doodie lets make something?

i belive there's something out there, but i just can't put my finger on it....

if there was a god, how come bad things happen to good people?

babies dieing, 11 years olds getting kid napped , columbine, 9/11.....
fate? god wanted people to die by burning to death in jet fuel? talk about a vengful god. How many of the 9/11 people belived in Christianty? but to die like that....we are his children right, so why would he let us die such a horrible death... annoy:[/quote:d1699]

Like I said God gave us free will, we chose what path we take.

[quote:d1699]
Heres a good way to see if God really doesnt/does exist.

Kill yourself. [/quote:d1699]

Well if you did you would go to Hell and you wouldnt see God....



[quote:d1699]Believing in the bible and god for one year isn't going to change anyones life completely around. Though your faith is truly admirable, I'm beginning to wonder whether you've actually read the bible yourself (unless you have a completely different version then I've grown up with)
[/quote:d1699]

Yes I am probaly growing up with a different Bible, my Mom is Lutheran, my Dad is Cathlic, and Im Baptist so all this stuff is all getting mixed together and Im reading a wierd version of the Bible which is like a cross of all Christian beliefs. But no I have not yet finished it.

*...notices Pyro totally checking out Buckweed...* hake:

imwithstupid:

Pyro, the entire point of my comment was to point out the absurdity in Old's statement. To some people, God is a very real thing.

where's god now?

[quote="Old Reliable":c0f9f]where's god now?[/quote:c0f9f]

he is standing behind you with a crowbar.

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":c0373][quote="Old Reliable":c0373]where's god now?[/quote:c0373]

he is standing behind you with a crowbar.[/quote:c0373]

No - That's Allah.

[quote=Tripper][quote="Mr.Buttocks":5491d]he is standing behind you with a crowbar.[/quote:5491d]

No - That's Allah.[/quote:5491d]

No - Allah would have a bomb strapped to him

I smell something, does anybody else? eek:

[quote="Duke_of_Ray":57b72]I smell something, does anybody else? eek:[/quote:57b72]

Is it Stereotyping? - Cause I can smell that too.....

[quote:3861f]Is it Stereotyping? - Cause I can smell that too..... [/quote:3861f]

Could be, but this has more of a musty smell to it.

I think it's time for the thread to be loct.

Maybe, or we could just let it die in its own natural way.

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":a60f8][quote="Old Reliable":a60f8]where's god now?[/quote:a60f8]

he is standing behind you with a crowbar.[/quote:a60f8]



Yes God is behind you, God is always with you...but not with a crowbar.

Testify.