EDIT: Link removed. Disturbing imagery.
how do you think they aborted this baby? They used saline to suffocate it untill it died. I think they are living things.

[quote="Old Reliable":82326]abortion is really a stupid topic, it gives humans this super quality that we are actually special, when in fact we are but animals made up of dna. if you kill sperm it would be the same as killing a life. just keep that in mind[/quote:82326]

Yup, that's why I brought the the menstration thing.

that doesnt make sense though.
I cant wack off into a petri dish and make a test tube baby with my sperm. A baby is only a baby after conception.

fine, but abortion is a circumstantial event, there should be no such thing as a general rule to it. would I support an abortion? only if the situation allows the necessity to make such a decision.

[quote="CaP bUsTa":70999]that doesnt make sense though.
I cant wack off into a petri dish and make a test tube baby with my sperm. A baby is only a baby after conception.[/quote:70999]

thats true, sperm only provides 1n of the dna, and together with the egg provides the 2n total amount of dna needed to produce a human. however, every sperm carries different chromosomes, and is capable of producing a unique child. just when is killing a human killing a human?

[quote="CaP bUsTa":b22a6]http://www.holylamb.com/images/abortion/salinebaby.jpg
how do you think they aborted this baby? They used saline to suffocate it untill it died. I think they are living things.[/quote:b22a6]

Dude, they're very inhumane to farm animals in the slaughter houses, does that mean you're gonna stop eating steak?

i dont eat steak

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oops, that smiley thing was about that guy's 15 or so posts in a row..


Anyways, do you think that abortion is not killing the fetus? What else would it be doing? To kill something, it has to be alive... Until you can prove that the fetus is not a living being, with the potential to become a living being more similar to yourself, abortion will always be murder.

[quote="SW-14":cbb16]oops, that smiley thing was about that guy's 15 or so posts in a row..


Anyways, do you think that abortion is not killing the fetus? What else would it be doing? To kill something, it has to be alive... Until you can prove that the fetus is not a living being, with the potential to become a living being more similar to yourself, abortion will always be murder.[/quote:cbb16]

Living, yes. Human, no. We kill things on a daily basis anyways.

All my life I have been anti-abortion.

As of last night, I'm not so sure. My girlfriend and I were discussing what would happen if she were to get pregnant (we had a scare once a couple of years ago).

She is in college, about to enter her final year. I personally have two years left before I'll nail down a degree. Both our parents are more or less against pre-marital sex. My parents know I'm not a virgin and they don't harp on me about it (because they did the same thing), but I have little doubt her father would decapitate me.

That said, I still couldn't let myself feel right about denying a life just to make mine easier.

Then my girlfriend said something to me. She told me to imagine myself in her shoes, walking around after the baby begins to show. All of the people you know whispering behind your back calling you a whore or saying how horrible it is or how careless you were. And to imagine the looks from people when we walked around together or attended church.

Pregnancy prior to marriage can truly be something that can shatter you entire life.

I'm not so sure I wouldn't be supportive of aborting the pregnancy before anyone was the wiser. And that tears me apart inside.

Innoxx is absolutely right. I was reading the first four pages of this thread, and was just about to post what he posted.

Some of you are fucking morons.

"put it up for adoption, blah, blah."

What happens when there are an extra 45 MILLION kids in fucking orphanages. It's just stupid shit you're talking.

45 MILLION, For christ's sake.

[url:6326c]http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/fastfacts.html[/url:6326c]

If it wasn't for abortions, we would already be suffering from mass over-population. Which, in case you haven't noticed, is already a huge problem in the world today.

An unborn Fetus that can't feel anything or have emotions isn't going to mind that one bit, I'm sure.

Most Extremist Pro-Lifers are the same type of people that walk down streets in Alabama wearing white hoods, chanting shit about Jews, Gays and African Americans.

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