Mmm-Kay everyone, I apologise - I was to brief with my post and didn't explain myself enough.....:

I never once said it was alright for Blacks to whine about their past and pull the race card....But then again, I never said it wasn't alright - I'm staying out of this side of the argument because I don't have an opinion on this matter.

But the fact is, I never said it was alright.....You guys just put words in my mouth. Fockers. happy:

I simply wanted to say with my original post to levinstein - That after 250 years of being treated like shit by another race, what do you expect? You expect people to just stop bitching about it?
Shit - If my people were enslaved for hundreds of years, and then even after slavery ended they were still being oppressed openly....I'd be pissed off too.

And yes, this is different to other slavery issues in other parts of the globe....For one, it isn't as long ago - Most people could easily trace their family tree into this period of time.....Secondly, and most importantly - The oppression went on for decades after the civil war.....Right up until the late 1960s....And even after....

All of you conveniently forget about how blacks were being openly oppressed during the segregation era just 40 years ago.....Do you think now that equality has been instated (Supposedly) that everyone is just going to forget about it?
People that faced the oppression are still alive....!


Just for Deleto:

Please quote where I said 'White people' in my original post.

This will be interesting.


How am I doing that, you mick bastard?

I'm so enlightened, because I actually understand what Im fucking talking about. Retard.
I see racism all the time.....I've been called it all, Whitey, Cracker, Honkey....And not even from African Americans....

The fact of the matter is....I never actually said it was alright for blacks to be racist at all. I simply said TO FUCKING LEVINSTEIN - NEVER TO YOU, YOU STUPID FUCKING IMBECILE, that he should blame his forefathers for treating blacks like shit for 250 years.....The reason I said this, is because if it wasn't for them, blacks wouldn't be so pissed off in the first place.

You're such an antsy bitch....So stirred up in your own fucking period blood, that you can't even see what I'm saying.

I'm sick and tired of your stupidity, Deleto...

My stupidity? You constantly contradict yourself in every thread you post. When you said "Blame your forefathers for treating black people like shit for the past 250 or so years. " then you were obviously talking about whites in general. Either that or you should learn to clarify what you are talking about, since you claim you know it so well.

You should seriously quit trying to sound smart, and learn some shit through life. Oh I understand that your generation was brought up in a period where you were brainwashed to think that you actually owe something to minorities for things done by other people in the past. But the fashion you use to argue your topic is ignorant and rascist in itself.

Anyone with intelligence can listen to another's argument and reply with some form of tact. But you, in all your genious, fly off the handle the moment someone has a different opinion of things. Why not try doing some research on the way the Irish were treated for over 100 years when they started arriving in America. No slavery of course, but damn near as close as you can come to it. But do you hear them saying that the general population owes them something for it? I never have. Racism is a double edged sword that we all must be cut by. The way you handle yourself in situations like that will show the true demeanor of your personality. And you my friend, have shown your true colors with your constant flaming of another individual, for simply speaking his opinion on the matter. It's not ignorance, It's not stupidity, It's the way things have come about in my life, and the effects that I have reaped.

Why not for once try thinking of the other person's opinion instead of instantly trying to discredit it and prove them wrong. You must be open minded to accept new possibilities. I myself have for years weighed this very same dillema and I have come to my before stated conclusion. Never once did I say it was right or just what was done to the slaves, but I also believe firmly that I myself owe absolutely nothing to them for those acts commited so long ago, by other people. This is all I stated, and I used simple FACTS to back my stand up.

Finally, if you were were talking to levinstein only, why not put his name SOMEWHERE in the post? Or maybe even pm him. Just a helpful thought to stop this from happening again. I like you Tripper, I have carried on several conversations with you on these boards that seemed intelligent and well thought out, and I always thought of you as a bright person, but the constant flaming of myself and others for doing no more than stating our opinions is absurd at best. The last time this happened I was backing up your side of the argument by stating that a person should be comfortable with themself and not care what others think of him. I may be a bit long winded in my approach and explanations, but that comes simply from 6 years of college (always try to fit in as many words as possible to make the paper longer). Simply put, I am tired of this little game, and withdraw.

[quote="Dr. Deleto":60e86]My stupidity? You constantly contradict yourself in every thread you post. When you said "Blame your forefathers for treating black people like shit for the past 250 or so years. " then you were obviously talking about whites in general.[/quote:60e86]

I obviously was? No. It was a post made directly after Levinsteins. That should be clear enough....I'm sorry that I don't comprehend that morons also use this forum.

[quote="Dr. Deleto":60e86]Oh I understand that your generation was brought up in a period where you were brainwashed to think that you actually owe something to minorities for things done by other people in the past.[/quote:60e86]

That's fucking stupid. I don't owe SHIT to AMERICAN minorities....I never, ever said all white people did.....I'm simply saying, and have ALWAYS been saying, that you should expect outcry from black people when they finally get the chance to cry out after 250 years of oppression.

Get the fucking idea.


[quote="Dr. Deleto":60e86] Why not try doing some research on the way the Irish were treated for over 100 years when they started arriving in America. No slavery of course, but damn near as close as you can come to it. But do you hear them saying that the general population owes them something for it? I never have.[/quote:60e86]

That's absolute fucking SHIT. How can you even compare oppression of Irish Immigrants to Black people? For fucks sake, thats lame.


[quote="Dr. Deleto":60e86]Why not for once try thinking of the other person's opinion instead of instantly trying to discredit it and prove them wrong You must be open minded to accept new possibilities.[/quote:60e86]

YOU must learn to heed your OWN advice, Kermit.

[quote="Dr. Deleto":60e86]Never once did I say it was right or just what was done to the slaves, but I also believe firmly that I myself owe absolutely nothing to them for those acts commited so long ago, by other people. This is all I stated, and I used simple FACTS to back my stand up.[/quote:60e86]

Did I EVER say you owed anyone anything? I'll say it one more time...Hopefully it will PENETRATE YOUR FUCKING SKULL:

Not all white people owe black people anything.....Except they should EXPECT that black people are gonna make themselves heard now that they can.

[quote="Dr. Deleto":60e86]I like you Tripper, I have carried on several conversations with you on these boards that seemed intelligent and well thought out, and I always thought of you as a bright person, but the constant flaming of myself and others for doing no more than stating our opinions is absurd at best.[/quote:60e86]

I flame. Get over it.

[quote="Dr. Deleto":60e86]The last time this happened I was backing up your side of the argument by stating that a person should be comfortable with themself and not care what others think of him.[/quote:60e86]

I told you I didn't fucking know what you were talking about......!

the_finger:

and I post my opinion, which is what a forum is for. Get over it. You whiney, self righteous, moronically self centered, hypocritical, asshat.

hows that for a flame? see isnt to hard to show that kind of skill is it?

you tell him dr. cuss:

MAN, some of u guys really have showed your true colors now that Ed is gone annoy: . All of this crap that is being said by deleto, lev, and nocturnal is pent up aggression that they have towards blacks. Hey deleto for some reason i get the feeling that you want to kill a black person now, eh? Another thing, i think u said in a post earlier that you express the way you feel or something like that.Well, i have a question for ya, do u express how you feel about blacks outside of this Forum? I truely wonder if ed was still here would we even be having a conversation about blacks & slavery.. ed:

how the hell do you say he wants to kill a black. are you a fucking moron? can you comprehend what he wrote?

gtboys, unlike your retarded ass, I can think in terms of a much more narrow scope than to say I'm angry with every black person.

The anger I harbor is directed solely at the ignorant fucks (i.e., Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, the ACLU, the NAACP) who abuse and manipulate the sensitivities of the public by throwing down the race card when it shouldn't even be a fucking issue. It's ridiculous. And my concern is that their sensationalism and love for media whoring is going to result in the general African American population behaving in the same manner.

[quote="Dr. Deleto":f6d4f]and I post my opinion, which is what a forum is for. Get over it. You whiney, self righteous, moronically self centered, hypocritical, asshat.

hows that for a flame? see isnt to hard to show that kind of skill is it?[/quote:f6d4f]

I'm over it, Fucky - I think YOU are the one who needs to get over the fact that I'm posting my opinion - I mean, I never had a problem with you posting your opinion....Maybe this is just your true colours shining brightly? happy:

.....BTW, you're gonna have to do better than that if you want me to be offended.....I mean, Asshat? What the fuck is that......? Like, last years flame. sleeping:

yes, yes he is.

i said i get the FEELING reading his post that he wants to kill a black person, idiot. Its just a f'n feeling. Isn't that we aa.comers do all day everyday here EXPRESS OUR FEELINGS???? annoy: x2

You really are a fucking tool, do you know that? You are the epitomy of an idiot, have you ever wandered off to school? I talk to mexican kids in school who make more sense and are more understandable and theyve been in this country at the most a year. THrought all the hints youve stayed dispite everyone hating you. Now please STFU

Can u not comprehend what i stated in my above 2 post?? Is it not understandable"? If u cant (obviously) then maybe you should spend some more time talking with your mexican boys. Im an idiot, eh? What is your definition of an idiot? Yeah most ppl here h8 me but im not gonna lose any freakin sleep over it. I just come to these forums and type what i feel, is that going against the forum's rules? Everyone here does just this but YOU notice someone who is being a little more open with what he says here and you flame him to death. WHy? Have i seriously offended you in any way being here? Have i killed someone in your family? Have i moaned and complained about anything? Nope. I just talk about what it is on my mind at the time i post, thats it. Now if you consider that being idiotic then your the 1 who needs ta stfu

Im not being open? I talk to one mexican kid and he plays football.Im being open, I started this dicussion and was the first to express my opinion on the matter.

[quote:50a53]Im an idiot[/quote:50a53]


You dont have to piss or moan, you brown nose enough to piss me off.
Good you understand

[quote:50a53]Now if you consider that being idiotic[/quote:50a53]

I do

[quote:50a53]Can u not comprehend what i stated in my above 2 post?? Is it not understandable[/quote:50a53]

LOL, nothing more to say[/code]