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strvs 11-10-2004 10:09 AM

This thread is roflsaurus.

Nothing against you nyck, i simply said it to get a reaction out of you. I hope your marriage goes well and in no way should appearance be associated with your relationship, all the power to you man.

I realise ive been an asshole, and im in no way out to hurt anyone. Just being my immature self, please excuse me.

Nyck 11-10-2004 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by strvs
This thread is roflsaurus.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... fid=582306

strvs 11-10-2004 10:45 AM

beer:

Nyck 11-10-2004 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strvs
beer:

beer:

now lets all just circle jerk....last one to blow eats the biscuit

Milla 11-10-2004 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Nyck
Quote:

Originally Posted by strvs
This thread is roflsaurus.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... fid=582306

[quote:d9ea0]During yesterday's regular observation of surroundings, I endeavoured to proceed to terraform the landscape that is my property's front lawn... but lo! A roflsaurus interrupted my labours and struck hilarity into my heart and soul![/quote:d9ea0]

LMAO!!

Tripper 11-10-2004 11:31 AM

Gay, I thought I made up roflsaurus....

SoLiDUS 11-10-2004 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bukdez
pardon me?... My point is yeah, IQ tests are great, if you were raised in a home, and went to school, and were exposed to media... The tests, of which I have taken several, often only measure the IQ or potential IQ of a candidate that is subject to certain social and cultural factors that allow them to respond within or outside of the tests parameters... Essentially, a homeless, uneducated person could posses an IQ of over 140, but score very low on standard tests as they would lack the the ability to truly comprehend some of the questions...

Sorry if I phrased my earlier post in a poor manner, what I should have said is that although IQ tests do measure the potential of a select candidate in an accurate manner, they often cannot be representitive of the population at large...

therefore, my assertion that "IQ tests are suspect" should read "results of IQ averages are suspect", as the testing would only include those of certian social standings and levels of education...

No. Newly designed tests do not take social or cultural standings into account
such that only five minutes describing their logic is necessary for everyone to
take them and have the same potential for success. The Wonderlic, in case I
wasn't already clear enough, is a bad example of a good IQ test, although it
has excellent norming due to the fact that millions of people worldwide have
taken a shot at it. There's a reason we have to test a large sample of the
general population in order to have accurate norms: otherwise, we would have
problems identifying anyone stuck on the far right of the bell curve. I'm sorry
you didn't know this, but it's all out there. Last bit: did you know they design
tests for different areas to avoid this "culture-loaded" problem ? I guess not.
If you were referring to online tests, I'm sorry I took the time to reply...

(Edit) PS. I apologize if I come off as being an ass: I'm tired of people
bashing something they hardly know about. The problem comes from a
special little site called Tickle/Emode, more usually mentioned than other
places. I took the time to read many of the APA articles, on top of having
a few discussions with shrinks and psychometricians, so I know about it.
No one would argue that a ruler measures distance (and height) because
we can clearly see how short or tall someone is. However, since intellect is
often concealed unless looked for, it's easier for people to misunderstand
how IQ testing works, even though the methods that were used to arrive
at an estimate are tried and true.

Short Hand 11-10-2004 12:06 PM

Seriously you guys talking bout nyck's wife is just fucking low. Make fun of him and his nascar., leave his wife out you dolts.

+ Smart people see threw the Bull shit we call republicans.

bukdez 11-10-2004 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoLiDUS
Quote:

Originally Posted by bukdez
pardon me?... My point is yeah, IQ tests are great, if you were raised in a home, and went to school, and were exposed to media... The tests, of which I have taken several, often only measure the IQ or potential IQ of a candidate that is subject to certain social and cultural factors that allow them to respond within or outside of the tests parameters... Essentially, a homeless, uneducated person could posses an IQ of over 140, but score very low on standard tests as they would lack the the ability to truly comprehend some of the questions...

Sorry if I phrased my earlier post in a poor manner, what I should have said is that although IQ tests do measure the potential of a select candidate in an accurate manner, they often cannot be representitive of the population at large...

therefore, my assertion that "IQ tests are suspect" should read "results of IQ averages are suspect", as the testing would only include those of certian social standings and levels of education...

No. Newly designed tests do not take social or cultural standings into account
such that only five minutes describing their logic is necessary for everyone to
take them and have the same potential for success. The Wonderlic, in case I
wasn't already clear enough, is a bad example of a good IQ test, although it
has excellent norming due to the fact that millions of people worldwide have
taken a shot at it. There's a reason we have to test a large sample of the
general population in order to have accurate norms: otherwise, we would have
problems identifying anyone stuck on the far right of the bell curve. I'm sorry
you didn't know this, but it's all out there. Last bit: did you know they design
tests for different areas to avoid this "culture-loaded" problem ? I guess not.
If you were referring to online tests, I'm sorry I took the time to reply...

(Edit) PS. I apologize if I come off as being an ass: I'm tired of people
bashing something they hardly know about. The problem comes from a
special little site called Tickle/Emode, more usually mentioned than other
places. I took the time to read many of the APA articles, on top of having
a few discussions with shrinks and psychometricians, so I know about it.
No one would argue that a ruler measures distance (and height) because
we can clearly see how short or tall someone is. However, since intellect is
often concealed unless looked for, it's easier for people to misunderstand
how IQ testing works, even though the methods that were used to arrive
at an estimate are tried and true.

I wasn't talking about online IQ test at all, don't worry... I understand your frustration in this matter, I thought I knew a little about the tests, but obviously my info is outdated... What you have said is very interesting, and also makes alot of sense... I wasn't trying to bash IQ testing so much as I was aiming to simply be critical of the results... Thanks for the info...

EDIT: +1...

Pyro 11-10-2004 12:30 PM

Im sorry. Nyck has no right to know anything about what people say about his wife. Im sure he would rather them keep saying it, you know spread the hate so it gets around. ENCOURAGE HATE LOL who is next the jews?

Mr.Buttocks 11-10-2004 01:48 PM

offtopic: offtopic: offtopic:

Eight Ace 11-10-2004 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
Im sorry. Nyck has no right to know anything about what people say about his wife. Im sure he would rather them keep saying it, you know spread the hate so it gets around. ENCOURAGE HATE LOL who is next the jews?

So you decided to repost these hurtful comments to not only where
nyck would see them, but where you knew his wife would see them too. eek:

Although it is funny to see you try to dress it up as good deed,
it remains a pathetic, small-minded act.

Pyro 11-10-2004 02:34 PM

[quote="Eight Ace":b48c8]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
Im sorry. Nyck has no right to know anything about what people say about his wife. Im sure he would rather them keep saying it, you know spread the hate so it gets around. ENCOURAGE HATE LOL who is next the jews?

So you decided to repost these hurtful comments to not only where
nyck would see them, but where you knew his wife would see them too. eek:

Although it is funny to see you try to dress it up as good deed,
it remains a pathetic, small-minded act.[/quote:b48c8]

You act like I did it so Id hurt them. Maybe i went about it the wrong way, but my intentionw as not to hurt them. If I did, well then im sorry.

SoLiDUS 11-10-2004 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bukdez
I wasn't talking about online IQ test at all, don't worry... I understand your frustration in this matter, I thought I knew a little about the tests, but obviously my info is outdated... What you have said is very interesting, and also makes alot of sense... I wasn't trying to bash IQ testing so much as I was aiming to simply be critical of the results... Thanks for the info...

EDIT: +1...

It IS important to be critical of the results... especially when someone says
"hey, I have a 160 IQ!": what do they mean by 160 ? Are they referring to
a 15 or 24 point standard deviation ? If the former, they would be considered
exceptionally gifted, whereas on a 24 deviation, slightly above the gifted level.
If an online test gives you a result that doesn't include a percentile range, run.
Even if it did, online norming (or author extrapolation) invalidates the test from
the start. I only know of two, maybe three valid online tests... and even they
suffer from slightly inaccurate norming. Whatever your score online, it's good
to multiply by .95 to be sure of your result...

beer:

Jin-Roh 11-10-2004 04:57 PM

IQ tests are bullshit.

Google search: Multiple Intelligences.


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