my brother thinks jack johnson is the greatest thing to happen to music.

Is aw the guy live at same the record man not yesterday, but the wednesday before. Some surfer guy from cali or something, just playing a guitar and singing...though it wasn't as band as the guy who is Bright Eyes.

LOL my cell phone holds more mp3's than a shuffle! Either get an ipod or dont but the shuffle is as TGB says a poor mans alternative so u can say look i got an ipod! There are a lot better players with more features atm for the same money or a little more. Also the portable HD aspect rocks for example a mate of mine wanted a patch for a game so I download wack it on there take a walk round to his house listenin to some tunes and then transfer over to his pc rock:

i dont trust anything that dosent hold 40 gigs

Alot of people dont understand the hard drive based players are not the future of portable mp3 players, memory based is MUCH better, they just cost alot more right no for any decent amount of space. A portable hard drive is a very bad way to carry around and listen to music, load times, HD failures- prone to interference, takes lots of power to operate, large size...

Show me a flash mem MP3 player that can hold 20gb of music.