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I dont give a shit what you guys say..

Russia is the most disgraced country in the war.. go read the books.. the allies didnt even like Russia, they just wanted the reds the keep them busy in the east..They murdered thousands of polish civilans/army personnal..

USA did a great part in WW2, the lend lease act with britain, the invasion of many countries... russia had a powerfull ally.. WINTER.. the russians were prepared for winter and the germans werent.. if the winter didnt come.. the germans would of kicked the shit outta stalin...

Far as im concerned, I have more respect for the germans then the russians..

I have a life and Im not going to keep arguing with you anymore..

Thats my opinion and nothing is going to change it..

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by blade:
I dont give a shit what you guys say..

Russia is the most disgraced country in the war.. go read the books.. the allies didnt even like Russia, they just wanted the reds to keep them busy in the east..They murdered thousands of polish civilans/army personnal..

USA did a great part in WW2, the lend lease act with britain, the invasion of many countries... russia had a powerfull ally.. WINTER.. the russians were prepared for winter and the germans werent.. if the winter didnt come.. the germans would of kicked the shit outta stalin...

Far as im concerned, I have more respect for the germans then the russians..

I have a life and Im not going to keep arguing with you anymore..

Thats my opinion and nothing is going to change it..

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shit, messed up

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Von Paulus:
General Paulus' army, once 330,000 troops strong, had been uterly liquidated... The comment on the snow killing many troops was true, but what about malaria and malnutrition killing many of the Japanese that the Americans and Australians would face ?

The Red Army encircled 91,000 German troops in Stalingrad in one swift manuver and picked them off, one unit at a time...And you should also keep in mind how long the Russian front was...And, If the Russians hadn't kept the Germans at bay, many German troops would be free to go to the Western Front and overrun them....As for someones comment that the T-34 was like the Tiger, Hmmm, check your' facts, The first time the Germans encountered it, It wiped out 5 panzers and took 1 hour to destroy on one occasion...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

hmmm.. check YOUR READING..

My point was, the tiger and the t-34 were alike because they couldnt keep up the production.. well, I think the T-34 had more production then the tiger tank because of the germans short of a heavy bomber, resulting in the germans couldnt bomb russias industry affectivly..

The Americans shermans were massivly produced to the point were the ratio was 10 shermans vs 1 tiger... the tiger was very expensivie to create and germany didnt have to resources at the time to do that...

BTW - Before you say Russia is so great, you should read a book and realize Stalin killed more of his people then Hitler killed the jews.. Also, look at Russias history with there casualties, in WW1 they had the most casualties... and WW2, once again, had the most casualties..

Also in WW2, Russia murdered thouzands of polish civilians and army personal..

So I have no respect for Russia and never will, this is my opinion and you will never change it, Im not going to come back here and waste my time on this pointless debate..

Theres my 2 cents worth, yet again.

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by intrestedviewer:
Dude figure it out, the russians only held there own ground. They never helped in liberating anywere else and while russia had a lot of man power they were poorly armed. The americans actually went out there and helped in liberating some other countrys, of course it did take pearl harbor to piss the americans off to war. If it werent for pearl harbor the US would of probably left england fight it off.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I guess some one has read there history correct, I give you an A+

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Well blade check this quote made by a german Commander.

"I would say the British were the best soldiers to fight aganist Germany, then the Soviets, but the Americans came last ,The American soldier is nothing short of a disgrace."
SS-Unterscharführer Werner Buse (Frundsberg division) on the allies

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ONCE MORE UNTO THE BEACH =)

OK, I totaly agree, I have a total dislike and contempt for the red army. But I was just saying that you cant say that the US contributed more to the war than all the other allies, because they didn't! I, as an american citizen, support the US as a country but I don't believe that we should keep taking the crap that our government told us fifty years ago literally. If it wasn't for the russian sacrifice the US and the other western allies wouldn't have been able to knock on Germany's door. Just face that fact.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Gerard:
Well blade check this quote made by a german Commander.

"I would say the British were the best soldiers to fight aganist Germany, then the Soviets, but the Americans came last ,The American soldier is nothing short of a disgrace."
SS-Unterscharführer Werner Buse (Frundsberg division) on the allies

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Then why did we successfully invade Africa,Italy, and then Europe? eh?

Go shove that quote up hitlers ass

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Ya we sucked at first I agree. But what soldier isn't a disgrace when they have been training for a couple weeks? Now I understand all of the points, but now we are forced to ask. If the americans sucked so much, then would the allies still have won the war if the US didn't enter. If you say yes then you have a serious problem with American people, if you say no then you know something that everyone already does. The allies would not have won that war if it hadn't been for US help. We may not have enterd the war early, but we did send supplies and weapons over seas. Your right I do love my country, but I'm not trying to say who won the war, (The allies won the war for Christ's sake), I'm trying to say that they wouldn't have won if the US didn't help. It's like the US vs. Britian in the revolution, the US won because they were fighting on their own ground (Russians) but maybe the US would have lost if they weren't helped by Eagerly awaited army France (US). You can't say one country won a F*cking war, not when there were a bunch of allied countries. To this day I never consider the US winning the revolution, they won their freedom, but the Allies (US, and France) won the war. Anyone else see my point? Who's to say that if the US didn't get involved then, the Nazis wouldn't have pulled out some of their armies in the east to fight in the West? Maybe if those armies stayed in the east Russia would have been destroyed, maybe not. No one will ever no.

BTW - Your sig is a too big.

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Also, then why the hell did Russia, France, and Britain BEG the USA to enter the war when it wasnt even ours?

I suggest to STFU and be glad that we even entered the war.. we could of just fought the japs and forget about you greedy bastards in europe... Im not saying the USA did the most part, but saying Russia fought the war and did everything is just bullshit..

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Damn I'm a retard *know* is supposed to replace No at the end, Eh?

And BTW- Where the hell is the next video? you think it will come out today (a week later from the first)?

Who the hell said we did everything?

My point was, that we DID do something..

idiots like Kaiser said the US didnt do jack shit.. and thats not true

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Damn my last post didn't come up!!!!!!!
I'll say it again:
You patriotic, bigheaded shits!!
I have hardly seen anyone mention the British and the other minor allied forces.
I am not saying we did the most but we did suffer a lot.
We were in the war from the start and we got the shit bombed out of us.
I don't know much else in detail but I know that.
I can't remember whether the Australians were in WW2 but I think they were and if so no one has mentioned them.

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