quit your bitching everyone, its getting old and boring.

why dont you guys at least make the quotes BOLDFACED , so its easier for everyone to read .

"OMG Hans, you just don't quit!"

And it appears neither do you. Dont expect me to do something your obviously NOT going to do.


"A LITTLE effort? I have NO idea how to make a mod, so for me, it'd be a BIG effort, and something I don't desire to get into, being that other realistic FPSs ARE coming out this year w/blood(NOT saying blood is the only thing that will make them realistic)."

It appears you know what you want in the MOD. Now if you weren't so LAZY you could run along and learn how to DO it.


"No, I don't, but it's a bit different. See, when I say something about blood, I'm just stating my opinion about bloods importance in realistic games, not JUDGING anyone after reading a few of their posts, like I think I know them."

Your just stating your COMPLAINTS and expecting some one else to solve them FOR YOU.

You don't like me stating the kind of person you are (LAZY), then too bad, it's plainly obvious by the way you are acting. I put the solution right in front of you and you don't even consider it because it requires some effort (and learning. You can do that, right?).


"Huh? All I said was that MOH:AA obviously wasn't a game for those who wanted it to look realistic when someone gets shot. I never said that blood was the ONLY thing needed to make a game realistic. I think you need glasses Hans, and maybe a few lessons in reading comprehension."

And what else did you ever talk about being realistic? The only thing I recall being in your posts about realism is blood.


"Changing the dust color? That would just look stupid."

Well, I guess a majority of today's action games look stupid, because most of them only include puffs of red (the result of changing the dust color). Why don't you run off and complain on those other game boards aswell?

"To be realistic, you'd have to KEEP the dust(that IS realistic) and on top of that find a way to add a bullet hole decal for every time someone got shot, in the exact place they got shot, and create a spraying blood effect every time they got hit on exposed skin. Also, you'd have to find a way to get some blood to pool on the ground as they were laying there."

So now you know what you want. What is stopping you from doing it (Besides being lazy)?

"All that seems VERY complicated, and maybe not even possible in a mod, I don't know."

Not possible? Look at some of the MODS around. Take Counter-Strike for example -- if they can change Half-Life enough to make it a whole new game, then I think you can add some blood effects.

"Call me lazy, but why would I even bother trying to do that, when I can just get SOF2, Global Operations, or Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon? All 3 look to be very realistic, and the 1st 2 will definately include blood and bullet holes, and if the 3rd one is like Rogue Spear, it will too."

I call you lazy because you come here "Making a big deal of it" and acting like it's a major problem, but when a solution is presented to you, your resonse is that it's too hard, so you shove it aside and act like I was wrong to tell it to you.

"So you're actually calling me crazy!? I think if you'd take a look in the mirror, you'd be more likely to see the crazy one."

Why, will your picture appear in the mirror? I'm not crazy because I'm not the one refusing a solution to my problem.


"My solution is getting OTHER games instead, and not buying MOH:AA, and I plan on it. As I've said, I have NO IDEA how to make a mod, and it looks like adding blood and bullet wounds would be a VERY complicated process which I have no desire to get into.

And you think others do? You came here complaining about there being no blood and acting like 2015 should put it in, but when YOU get a chance to put it in there YOURSELF you refuse and tell me it's too hard.


"Why don't YOU do it, since you seem to know so much about it, and want ME to so badly."

I don't want you to do it so badly. I want to give you a solution to your problem.


"This really will never end, because you obviously are just too thick headed to see the reality of the situation"

The only "thick headed" person here is YOU, for refusing the solution to your problem purely because of being LAZY.

"I'm not obsessed"

Then what else did you ever post about other then blood?

"I'm certianly not crazy"

Then why do you refuse the solution to your problem?

"I have no plan/desire to make a mod"

You have a desire to solve you probem (why else would you come back), maybe you should consider that this is not going to be easy, and no one is going to do it for you.


"I NEVER said that blood is the only thing needed to make a FPS realistic"

Did you ever mention anything else being realistic in your posts?

"Until you realize these things, you will just keep on repeating yourself until they close the thread, or until you come to your senses(that one's doubtful)"

Maybe it's time "you came to your senses" and either apply some EFFORT and solve your problem, or shut up and leave (that too appears doubtful.


If anything, I'd say YOU are obsessed. Good day!"


Obsessed with what? The only thing I'm doing is trying to get YOU to solve your problem so you can stop coming back here to complain.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Polaris:
why dont you guys at least make the quotes BOLDFACED , so its easier for everyone to read . <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The -"- marks work just aswell. I'll think about changing them. Wouldn't want to upset the fans.

ok hans and djk quit your extremely long message fight =)

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lol this is funny

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"And it appears neither do you. Dont expect me to do something your obviously NOT going to do."

I'm only defending myself and trying to make it clear that I don't want to make a mod. I wouldn't have the slightest idea how, and I don't desire to learn. I buy games, not make them. This is getting quite rediculous. I'm not going to go back and quote and then respond to your every line in your last post, because I would be saying the same thing to each one. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A MOD!! I have already given up on MOH:AA. I had before. I only keep posting because you keep giving me reason to defend myself. You suggested that I make a mod. I heard your suggestion, and told you that I didn't want to. Now YOU are being thick headed by repeatedly saying the same thing over and over. You act as if I'm still asking 2015 to add blood. You DO realize that I had stopped weeks ago, right? I KNOW they are not going to add blood, and I'm moving on. Yes I came back and complained a little in a few blood posts, but that doesn't mean that I still expect them to add blood, or that I desire to make a mod so just DROP IT already. YOU are the one who is keeping this going you know. If you just stop accusing me of being obsessed and crazy and practically demanding that I make a mod because I wanted blood, and calling me lazy when I say I don't want to, this thread will simply die and we can all move on. This is POINTLESS. I am not obsessed, crazy, and WILL NOT make a mod, nor am I still interested in MOH:AA. Yes I wanted blood. Yes I whined and bitched about it, but I'm DONE now. I'd been done for a while! Did THAT clear things up!!??




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i would never be able to type all that!

"I'm only defending myself and trying to make it clear that I don't want to make a mod. I wouldn't have the slightest idea how, and I don't desire to learn."

Defending yourself from what, EFFORT? How is telling me I'm wrong because you are too LAZY to do the work required to solve your problem, defending yoursel?.

"I buy games, not make them."

The words of a truly LAZY person.

"This is getting quite rediculous."

Yes it is, you have a solution to your problem, but you will not except it because it requires EFFORT.

"I'm not going to go back and quote and then respond to your every line in your last post, because I would be saying the same thing to each one. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A MOD!!"

Some solutions are not easy, if you can't except that, then you might aswell leave and stop acting like I'm wrong to give you an answer that requires that YOU DO SOMETHING.

"I have already given up on MOH:AA. I had before. I only keep posting because you keep giving me reason to defend myself."

You came back before this whole thing (to complain some more), you didn't have to, and you don't have to keep comig back.

"You suggested that I make a mod. I heard your suggestion, and told you that I didn't want to. Now YOU are being thick headed by repeatedly saying the same thing over and over."

And you are being "thick headed" and LAZY by not excepting that YOU MUST DO SOMETHING to solve your problem.

"You act as if I'm still asking 2015 to add blood. You DO realize that I had stopped weeks ago, right?"

No you haven't stopped, you came back (several times) to complain some more about blood.

"I KNOW they are not going to add blood, and I'm moving on. Yes I came back and complained a little in a few blood posts, but that doesn't mean that I still expect them to add blood, or that I desire to make a mod so just DROP IT already."

Why don't YOU "JUST DROP IT"? (or is this another of your problems you refuse to solve yourself?)

"YOU are the one who is keeping this going you know."

And you aswell, I'm not making you come back.

"If you just stop accusing me of being obsessed and crazy and practically demanding that I make a mod because I wanted blood, and calling me lazy when I say I don't want to, this thread will simply die and we can all move on."

I'll accuse you of nothing, and state what you are. I'm demanding that you either solve your problem, OR leave. You appear to be doing neither, only complaining (some more) because your LAZY and refuse to do some WORK.

"This is POINTLESS. I am not obsessed, crazy, and WILL NOT make a mod, nor am I still interested in MOH:AA."

Then why are you still here, i'm not forcing you to come back.

"Yes I wanted blood. Yes I whined and bitched about it, but I'm DONE now. I'd been done for a while! Did THAT clear things up!!??"

No, I'm still wondering why you come back to do some more bitching (at me).

Holy shit a damn flame war with DJK and Hans!

They both posted at least 30 each . lol

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Hans, I tried to be nice about it, but I won't any longer. You are truly a moron.

"Defending yourself from what, EFFORT? How is telling me I'm wrong because you are too LAZY to do the work required to solve your problem, defending yoursel?."

You obviously don't understand. I have NO interest in making a mod, NONE. That doesn't mean I'm lazy, it means I DON'T WANT TO.

"The words of a truly LAZY person."

Or the words of someone who has absolutely no interest in making a game.

"Some solutions are not easy, if you can't except that, then you might aswell leave and stop acting like I'm wrong to give you an answer that requires that YOU DO SOMETHING."

You are so DAMN wrong it's not funny. I don't have to make a mod OR leave here just because YOU say so.

"You came back before this whole thing (to complain some more), you didn't have to, and you don't have to keep comig back."

Yes, I did. And I keep coming back now, waiting for you to come to your senses. I'm still waiting.

"And you are being "thick headed" and LAZY by not excepting that YOU MUST DO SOMETHING to solve your problem."

I must do something, your right. That something is buy ANOTHER game. Not make a damn mod for this one. Why can't you get that through your head?

"No you haven't stopped, you came back (several times) to complain some more about blood."

Just complaining about something is different than asking for something, expecting that you will get it.

"Why don't YOU "JUST DROP IT"? (or is this another of your problems you refuse to solve yourself?)"

Drop what? Insisting that I'm NOT obsessed, and that I shouldn't have to make a mod?? You are the one saying all that crap. You are the one who needs to drop it.

"I'll accuse you of nothing, and state what you are."

Well, I'm not obsessed, and not wanting to make a mod doesn't equal lazyness, so you've simply accused. You only would have "stated" what I am, if it were true.

"I'm demanding that you either solve your problem, OR leave. You appear to be doing neither, only complaining (some more) because your LAZY and refuse to do some WORK."

Oh, you're "demanding", LMAO!! You have to be one of the most ignorant and stubborn people I've ever seen. You actually think you know me because you've read some of my posts on this message board. What are you, 12 years old? Why don't you just admit that you know NOTHING about me other than the fact that I want blood in my FPSs and that sometimes I bitch about stuff, and go on your merry way.

"Then why are you still here, i'm not forcing you to come back."

I'm still here, because unfortunately, I've let your stupidity piss me off.




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"Hans, I tried to be nice about it, but I won't any longer. You are truly a moron."

More childish insults I see. What is so nice about calling me "thick headed"?

"You obviously don't understand. I have NO interest in making a mod, NONE. That doesn't mean I'm lazy, it means I DON'T WANT TO."

If you don't want to except that the solution to your problem requires you DO something, then leave and go find a new game.

"Or the words of someone who has absolutely no interest in making a game."

And won't except he has to DO something to solve his problem.


"You are so DAMN wrong it's not funny. I don't have to make a mod OR leave here just because YOU say so."

Why am I wrong because your to "DAMN" lazy to do anything yourself? You obviously have to DO something to solve your problem, and I don't see you thinking of any solutions.

"Yes, I did. And I keep coming back now, waiting for you to come to your senses. I'm still waiting."

Come to my senses? How about you come to yours and DO SOMETHING to solve your problem, or leave?


"I must do something, your right. That something is buy ANOTHER game. Not make a damn mod for this one. Why can't you get that through your head?"

Well why are you still at the board for THIS game if you plan on getting another?


"Just complaining about something is different than asking for something, expecting that you will get it."

Then your reason for complaining is?


"Drop what? Insisting that I'm NOT obsessed, and that I shouldn't have to make a mod?? You are the one saying all that crap. You are the one who needs to drop it."

"DROP" the argument like you insist I do, because you can't seem to do anything yourself.


"Well, I'm not obsessed, and not wanting to make a mod doesn't equal lazyness, so you've simply accused. You only would have "stated" what I am, if it were true."

Then why don't you make the mod? I see no reason for your refusal (other then being LAZY) to LEARN (unless you happen to be mentaly retarded).


"Oh, you're "demanding", LMAO!! You have to be one of the most ignorant and stubborn people I've ever seen. You actually think you know me because you've read some of my posts on this message board."

"Stubborn" would more likely be the word to describe you, you continue come back here, and blame it on me. You refuse to solve your problem, and again blame it on me because I gave you the solution.

"What are you, 12 years old?"

No, but you appear to be, with all of these insults you use against me.


"Why don't you just admit that you know NOTHING about me other than the fact that I want blood in my FPSs and that sometimes I bitch about stuff, and go on your merry way."

Because I do know something about you. Your LAZY, and you keep coming back here when you say you will not (also known as being obsessed).

"I'm still here, because unfortunately, I've let your stupidity piss me off."

I'm pissing you off because I can give you the aswer to a problem? Strange logic.

"What I'm saying, is you shouldn't even go saying that I'm obsessed simply because of my posts on here. You don't have to say ANYTHING. You can't get to know someone from a few of their posts on a message board, so just drop it."

Whether or not you are obsessed is up for debate. One thing I can grasp is that you are LAZY. You could solve your problem with a little effort but you refuse.


"Again, you don't have to say anything. What you have said so far about my being "obsessed" is totally wrong."

And you don't have to say ANYTHING when blood is brought up.


"Umm, where in that did I say that blood alone made a game realistic?? Yes it greatly adds to the realism, but it's not ALL that's needed to make a game realistic, and I KNOW I've said that before."

You say it right here --"Wow, I guess this really isn't a game for those who want it to look realistic when you shoot someone"--

"Of course I read your whole post. I was just hoping you'd come up w/something better than the old, make it yourself excuse. I don't want to make a mod. I shouldn't have to. You act as if someone doesn't have the right to complain about a product if they can't do a better job themselves. That excuse came up once on Sierra's NASCAR Racing 4 board, when many people were complaining about N4's many problems, and a guy said how we shouldn't complain if we couldn't make our own racing sim. That excuse simply doesn't work, and after about a half hour of "discussion http://www.pcgamers.net/ubb/biggrin.gif", he admitted how wrong he was."

Oh, so now because your LAZY, I'm wrong to give you a way to get blood. You being lazy does not make me wrong to tell you to "do it yourself". It is exactly what you should be doing if you want blood in this game. I'm not telling you to go out, put together a development team, and make your own game in 4 years. I'm saying make a MOD, a very simple MOD. Most likely having to do with changing the dust color.

"Well, I'm not crazy, so it's not relevant."

Again, that's your oppinion.

"Since I'm not gonna make a mod, complaining is the only thing I can do."

It's not the only thing you can do, if you weren't so LAZY you could make a MOD.

"You do realize Hans that this is never going to end. I post and tell you that I'm not obsessed, and you keep on saying I am. Since I AM NOT obsessed, not amount of quoting me and telling me to make a mod is going to do anything other than get me telling you once again that I'm not obsessed and don't want to make a damn mod. I'd like to say that I will no longer respond to you, but I just KNOW that you'll say something to really piss me off and I'll just HAVE to respond so..."

Oh yes, your lazy, so you won't go and solve your own problem. You have your solution sitting right in front of you, but no, you won't take it, you sit your LAZY ass down and look the other way. So go right ahead, respond, and tell me again how being LAZY is still preventing you from solving your problem.

longest damn posts ever, has anyone read all of them?

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Hans, I don't even know what to say anymore. You just can't seem to grasp the idea that I simply don't want to make a mod.

"If you don't want to except that the solution to your problem requires you DO something, then leave and go find a new game."

OMG, how many times have I said that buying a different game is what I plan to do!?

"Why am I wrong because your to "DAMN" lazy to do anything yourself? You obviously have to DO something to solve your problem, and I don't see you thinking of any solutions."

I HAVE solved it! I'm simply not going to buy MOH:AA. THAT is my solution.

"Come to my senses? How about you come to yours and DO SOMETHING to solve your problem, or leave?"

As I said, I already have.

"Well why are you still at the board for THIS game if you plan on getting another?"

Because I have a hard time walking away from an arguement, especially w/someone as persistant as you. I just keep telling you that I don't want to make a mod, and it doesn't mean I'm being lazy, hoping one of those times you'll finally get it.

"Then your reason for complaining is?"

Because I feel like it. In the USA here where I live, thats all the reason I need. Anyways, I'm not even complaining anymore, yet you just keep on insisting that I make a mod.

""DROP" the argument like you insist I do, because you can't seem to do anything yourself."

Huh?

"Then why don't you make the mod? I see no reason for your refusal (other then being LAZY) to LEARN (unless you happen to be mentaly retarded)."

Because I have no interest in making a mod!! I really can't make it any clearer!! I just have no interest, thats all. It has nothing to do w/being lazy!

"Stubborn" would more likely be the word to describe you, you continue come back here, and blame it on me. You refuse to solve your problem, and again blame it on me because I gave you the solution."

I'm not blaming you for giving me a possible solution. I'm blaming you for absolutely insisting that I do it and calling me lazy after I've told you numerous times that I simply have no interest in it at all.

"No, but you appear to be, with all of these insults you use against me."

You've earned it.

"Because I do know something about you. Your LAZY, and you keep coming back here when you say you will not (also known as being obsessed)."

I'm lazy because I have absolutely no desire to take your suggestion and make a mod? If THAT equals lazyness to you, than you must call every person who's ever NOT done exactly what you wanted them to do, lazy. And I never said that I wasn't going to come back. I said that I'd LIKE to say that, but I know that you will say something to piss me off, which you have now, numerous times.

"I'm pissing you off because I can give you the aswer to a problem? Strange logic."

You're pissing me off because you keep forcing your "answer" down my throat after I've told you in every way possible that I don't want to.




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