it can somehow..

[quote:d930c]I don't understand how believing in something makes something else real. [/quote:d930c]

What do you mean? Jesus and God are one, so if you accept Jesus, you will know in your heart their is a God.

[quote="Duke_of_Ray":bbd1d][quote:bbd1d]I don't understand how believing in something makes something else real. [/quote:bbd1d]

What do you mean? Jesus and God are one, so if you accept Jesus, you will know in your heart their is a God.[/quote:bbd1d]

jesus and god may be one to you but dont be mistaken jesus is not one with God in EVERY religion...

me im not muslim cristian, or what so ever. but i do believe that there is something that started all this. and something that watches over us...i do not believe in some being that has special powers and can zap ppl.

btw...some things dont have to exist to be there...if the majority of the ppl on earth believe in a God than it does exist...just not in a physical way...

Pantha you make sense.....but plz for hte love of all that is and all that will be, LEt this thread DIE!

[quote="Unknown_Sniper":6c6d5]Pantha you make sense.....but plz for hte love of all that is and all that will be, LEt this thread DIE![/quote:6c6d5]

Well then, quit reading it.

And if you want it to die, the dumbest thing you can do is to bump it to the top.

Oh yeah,

BUMP.

[quote:f5f59]jesus and god may be one to you but dont be mistaken jesus is not one with God in EVERY religion...

me im not muslim cristian, or what so ever. but i do believe that there is something that started all this. and something that watches over us...i do not believe in some being that has special powers and can zap ppl.

btw...some things dont have to exist to be there...if the majority of the ppl on earth believe in a God than it does exist...just not in a physical way... [/quote:f5f59]

Either you believe in JEsus they way the Bible teaches or you do not truly believe in Him at all. Just becuase the mjority believe it does not make it true, its through faith and acceptance that it becomes true.

[quote="Duke_of_Ray":d2d03][quote:d2d03]jesus and god may be one to you but dont be mistaken jesus is not one with God in EVERY religion...

me im not muslim cristian, or what so ever. but i do believe that there is something that started all this. and something that watches over us...i do not believe in some being that has special powers and can zap ppl.

btw...some things dont have to exist to be there...if the majority of the ppl on earth believe in a God than it does exist...just not in a physical way... [/quote:d2d03]

Either you believe in JEsus they way the Bible teaches or you do not truly believe in Him at all. Just becuase the mjority believe it does not make it true, its through faith and acceptance that it becomes true.[/quote:d2d03]

so if I believe hard enough that the world is flat then it becomes true?
and old Chris Columbus and Magellan are both idiots?

Whether this thread is bumped or not, at 17 pages, it has really run out of content.

A lot has been said, I think a lot of good things and only one or two bad things, and that has to be good.

Be it far from my place to command the end of this discussion, but reading the last two pages can anyone honestly say it's getting anywhere?

Yeh, I know I've added exactly nothng to it with this post, but I felt I had to point that out biggrin:

[quote:f6262]so if I believe hard enough that the world is flat then it becomes true?
and old Chris Columbus and Magellan are both idiots?
[/quote:f6262]

Uhhh no, its not matter of how hard you believe in JEsus, its by accepting Jesus that you get in your heart the knowledge that God does exsist. Jesus and God are one, you either believe in how the Bible tells you, or you are not beliving in the true God, you may not like it, but thats how it is.

[quote="Duke_of_Ray":e56c0][quote:e56c0]so if I believe hard enough that the world is flat then it becomes true?
and old Chris Columbus and Magellan are both idiots?
[/quote:e56c0]

Uhhh no, its not matter of how hard you believe in JEsus, its by accepting Jesus that you get in your heart the knowledge that God does exsist. Jesus and God are one, you either believe in how the Bible tells you, or you are not beliving in the true God, you may not like it, but thats how it is.[/quote:e56c0]

ASSUMING of course that you're right

I still don't understand...how can accepting something make it real

Winston accepted that 2+2=5 by the end of the book 1984...clearly that isn't true...he is just told to believe it is true.

the one person i would never want to be is Jesus, he could never top his father, lol

[quote:dac5c]Just becuase the mjority believe it does not make it true, its through faith and acceptance that it becomes true.[/quote:dac5c]

Wow... that is a very dangerous idea: you must be easily manipul...
nevermind, dear! biggrin:

[quote:eb4b1]ASSUMING of course that you're right
[/quote:eb4b1]

Im right only becuase God is, I the fact I know Him, and so can you.


[quote:eb4b1]Wow... that is a very dangerous idea: you must be easily manipul...
nevermind, dear![/quote:eb4b1]

ME, I am a very skeptical person, but I do know there is a God in my hart becuase I have faith and have accepted Him.

[quote:eb4b1]I still don't understand...how can accepting something make it real [/quote:eb4b1]

Just becuase you accept it does not make it real, but when you do accept Jesus you know there is a God, God is real already so its not whether or not you accet Him that makes Him real, Christians have a sense that God is there, and with them, and you can have this to by accepting Christ. :)

Someone turn off the broken record, please!

[quote:3aa9b]Someone turn off the broken record, please! [/quote:3aa9b]

A broken record is what many people here need, so that it can get the truth through their heads and to their heart. :)

You're preaching to the wrong choir, boy.

[quote:c4926] You're preaching to the wrong choir, boy [/quote:c4926]

Im commanded to preach to all, and I have done my job, now your blood is no longer on my hands.

[quote="Duke_of_Ray":26928][quote:26928] You're preaching to the wrong choir, boy [/quote:26928]

Im commanded to preach to all, and I have done my job, now your blood is no longer on my hands.[/quote:26928]

So stop already.

[quote="Duke_of_Ray":09a1d][quote:09a1d] You're preaching to the wrong choir, boy [/quote:09a1d]

Im commanded to preach to all, and I have done my job, now your blood is no longer on my hands.[/quote:09a1d]

ok not in your hadns its in mine. And my legs, my heart, my head, my arms, my chest. MY blood is mine. Stop trying to act like you cant save me. THere is nothing to save me or anyone else from. PLz stop now

and bye cant I mena CAN

[quote="Duke_of_Ray":aa13f]Im commanded to preach to all, and I have done my job, now your blood is no longer on my hands.[/quote:aa13f]

What if God suddenly commanded you to go out and kill as many people as
possible before you were stopped: would you do it ? Do you realize what kind
of puppet you have become ? I respect your choice but please, don't recruit
here...

God would not do that though, it's against the 10 Commandments and he is not that type of guy.

But what if he did?

Moved to what if thread.

God would never tell someone to kill people he only gave them the power to kill so they cant use it. at least thats how I imagine you see it. BUt then again what if hewants us too...im confused

[quote:fea11]What if God suddenly commanded you to go out and kill as many people as
possible before you were stopped: would you do it ? Do you realize what kind
of puppet you have become ? I respect your choice but please, don't recruit
here...
[/quote:fea11]

Uh he would not do that, so there is no point in tha question, but Gods will is always best. As for me being a puppet, I hope thats what I am, a puppet controlled by God Almighty.

[quote:fea11]ok not in your hadns its in mine. And my legs, my heart, my head, my arms, my chest. MY blood is mine. Stop trying to act like you cant save me. THere is nothing to save me or anyone else from. PLz stop now [/quote:fea11]

I cant save you, only Jesus can, if you believe in me, not only are you in sad shape, I will completely fail you. :) When I say your blood is on my hands, I mean that if I do witness to you when I get the chance then its my fualt for you not hearing about Jesus, atleast from me, now that I have told you, I no longer have to worry about your blood being on my hands, but I did not tell you all this for that reason, I told you all this so that you may escape the fires of hell.

we don't need Evangelists here, stop preaching about how good the Christian god is, you're probably offending people of other religions (especially Muslims)

i hear theres a party in hell for all eternity. While up in heaven they play scrabble and sing songs...oh yeah by hte way. The right religionm is Morman...SO all those who are not morman go to hell.(South PArk)

Trust me, if there were a god he'd be down here already. Look at the shit we've been through; the crusades, black plague, pompeii, and both world wars. Millions of the innocent have died and suffered so we can live out our manly fantasies. So where the fuck is this second coming?

Truth is there is no second coming because we made the whole fucking thing up. I hate to break it you but I feel I must:

#1. There is no holy trinity.
#2. There is no heaven and hell.
#3. Religion is the leading cause of hate.
#4. There is no hope for you, me and everyone else.

Religion was made up so that people would feel fulfilled, so they would feel that they serve a purpose. Truth is there is no fucking hope, we are all a fucking grey spot in the universe. So I say we should all enjoy ourselves instead of living out some false prophecy.

Innox is god all bow down biggrin:

[quote:31323]Trust me, if there were a god he'd be down here already. Look at the shit we've been through; the crusades, black plague, pompeii, and both world wars. Millions of the innocent have died and suffered so we can live out our manly fantasies. So where the fuck is this second coming?

Truth is there is no second coming because we made the whole fucking thing up. I hate to break it you but I feel I must:

#1. There is no holy trinity.
#2. There is no heaven and hell.
#3. Religion is the leading cause of hate.
#4. There is no hope for you, me and everyone else.

Religion was made up so that people would feel fulfilled, so they would feel that they serve a purpose. Truth is there is no fucking hope, we are all a fucking grey spot in the universe. So I say we should all enjoy ourselves instead of living out some false prophecy. [/quote:31323]

Trust you? No, Ill trust God. I hate to break it to you, but the day of the Lord is coming, and you had better repent or face judgement by God, for the good will live for ever, but the wicked will be thrown into the fire.

1.Yes there is a Holy Trinity
2. There is a Heaven and most certianly a hell
3. Evil men are the cuase of hate
4. There is hope for everybody, even for you and me, Im not better than anybody here and if Jesus will save me he will save anybody.

Dont worry about religion, worry about being saved by Jesus, he is our only hope, so Jesus is the Truth, and I know the Truth, and I hope you will to.

[quote:4d8be]Trust me, if there were a god he'd be down here already. Look at the shit we've been through; the crusades, black plague, pompeii, and both world wars. Millions of the innocent have died and suffered so we can live out our manly fantasies. So where the fuck is this second coming?

Truth is there is no second coming because we made the whole fucking thing up. I hate to break it you but I feel I must:

#1. There is no holy trinity.
#2. There is no heaven and hell.
#3. Religion is the leading cause of hate.
#4. There is no hope for you, me and everyone else.

Religion was made up so that people would feel fulfilled, so they would feel that they serve a purpose. Truth is there is no fucking hope, we are all a
fucking grey spot in the universe. So I say we should all enjoy ourselves instead of living out some false prophecy. [/quote:4d8be]

Trust you? No, Ill trust God. I hate to break it to you, but the day of the Lord is coming, and you had better repent or face judgement by God, for the good will live for ever, but the wicked will be thrown into the fire.

1.Yes there is a Holy Trinity
2. There is a Heaven and most certianly a hell
3. Evil men are the cuase of hate
4. There is hope for everybody, even for you and me, Im not better than anybody here and if Jesus will save me he will save anybody.

Dont worry about religion, worry about being saved by Jesus, he is our only hope, so Jesus is the Truth, and I know the Truth, and I hope you will to.

Hope I did not double post. :)

Sorry, my post never showed up. Hmmmmm...........

So here we are, telling people to stop evangelising, because it's not what you beleive, yet Innox makes some statements that we must beleive? No. Incorrect.

Okay.....

Jesus has the ten commandments. If you break any of these he sends you to a place full of fire, torture, aguish so that you can suffer until the end of time...... but he loves you and he's always forgiving.

Anybody see the sardonicism in that?

no, because that's not how it works. You can break the 10 Commandments and still go to heaven.

SO I can go outside right now and shoot soomeone in the face and rape his wfie, but as long as I pray I won't go to hell?

no, I told Duke to stop "evangalising" simply because its getting annoying. Innoxx may or not be correct, but thats what he believes, he at least isn't being totally one-sided.

or repetative. Duke keeps saying the same things over and over and over and over again. Innoxx keeps owning him freestyle ten ways to sunday

[quote="Unknown_Sniper":1a4fa]or repetative. Duke keeps saying the same things over and over and over and over again. Innoxx keeps owning him freestyle ten ways to sunday[/quote:1a4fa]

fun to read Innoxx own him though biggrin: