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Johnj 02-14-2006 06:22 AM

Try looking at the label on the side of the psu.





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geRV 02-14-2006 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forte
how do I check my PSU's wattage? I am upgrading my graphics card from a 5200 to a 5900 XT.

Mm probably better for going for something better if you can afford it, 6800-non ultra or something along those lines. The fx series sucks balls.

Jin-Roh 02-14-2006 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
The fx series sucks balls.

+1

Forte 02-14-2006 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
Quote:

Originally Posted by Forte
how do I check my PSU's wattage? I am upgrading my graphics card from a 5200 to a 5900 XT.

Mm probably better for going for something better if you can afford it, 6800-non ultra or something along those lines. The fx series sucks balls.

it is free, so I am not going to argue. I would get a new card right now, but I am getting a new computer during summer, so I just need something to tide me over until then.

Milla 02-14-2006 12:38 PM

I need another gig of ram ASAP

geRV 02-14-2006 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Milla
I need another gig of ram ASAP

Join the club, i ned 2 gigs for my shuttle and 2 for my main pc. Then ive still to order all my new shit. loney:

snipes 02-14-2006 03:34 PM

K, my dad bought a computer recently, with a GeForce 6200SE. The guy at Futureshop said it was 'decent'. Is it a piece of shit or no?

Nyck 02-14-2006 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by snipes
piece of shit


snipes 02-14-2006 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyck
Quote:

Originally Posted by snipes
piece of shit


Could someone go more into detail please? Like how shitty is it really? What modern games can I run (if any)?

Sorry, I'm kind of a nub with graphics cards...

Himmler 02-14-2006 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milla
I need another gig of ram ASAP

Join the club, i ned 2 gigs for my shuttle and 2 for my main pc. Then ive still to order all my new shit. loney:

lols and i remember when everyone talked shit to me when i got 2 gigs of ram in my pc. especially you gerv and here i quote

Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
2gb of ram though oOo: Unless you're doing 3d apps or like 80 tga's open in photoshop thats just for bragging rights and has no practical application.

and then

Quote:

Originally Posted by fujimi7su
no modern apps even use 1gb, let alone 2
High quality 1gb for the same price would work faster, lower timings>senseless amounts I could get 1gb of Hyper X, XMS, Mush Lvl2 or Mush 222 that would perform better than 2gb of your shit for the same or less.

plzdie:

snipes 02-14-2006 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Himmler
Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milla
I need another gig of ram ASAP

Join the club, i ned 2 gigs for my shuttle and 2 for my main pc. Then ive still to order all my new shit. loney:

lols and i remember when everyone talked shit to me when i got 2 gigs of ram in my pc. especially you gerv and here i quote

Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
2gb of ram though oOo: Unless you're doing 3d apps or like 80 tga's open in photoshop thats just for bragging rights and has no practical application.

and then

Quote:

Originally Posted by fujimi7su
no modern apps even use 1gb, let alone 2
High quality 1gb for the same price would work faster, lower timings>senseless amounts I could get 1gb of Hyper X, XMS, Mush Lvl2 or Mush 222 that would perform better than 2gb of your shit for the same or less.

plzdie:

I just got 2 gigs as well.

c312 02-14-2006 10:00 PM

i have 1.5 but I think it's pretty crappy

Akuma 02-15-2006 12:05 AM

2GB is bear minimum in my books.

Forte 02-15-2006 12:08 AM

512 megs rock:

geRV 02-15-2006 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Himmler
Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milla
I need another gig of ram ASAP

Join the club, i ned 2 gigs for my shuttle and 2 for my main pc. Then ive still to order all my new shit. loney:

lols and i remember when everyone talked shit to me when i got 2 gigs of ram in my pc. especially you gerv and here i quote

Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
2gb of ram though oOo: Unless you're doing 3d apps or like 80 tga's open in photoshop thats just for bragging rights and has no practical application.

and then

Quote:

Originally Posted by fujimi7su
no modern apps even use 1gb, let alone 2
High quality 1gb for the same price would work faster, lower timings>senseless amounts I could get 1gb of Hyper X, XMS, Mush Lvl2 or Mush 222 that would perform better than 2gb of your shit for the same or less.

plzdie:

That was before games that whored memory like bf2 were available, probably a good year or more before thye were available.

02-15-2006 04:57 PM

I need a WinXP Boot diskette...

i would use a win98 but fdisk only does FAT/FAT32.

02-15-2006 08:04 PM

nevermind, did it with Windows CD.

Milla 02-15-2006 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Himmler
plzdie:

No you plzdie:

lol



I need 2 gigs cause BF2 and company are slutting my comp up.

[DAS REICH] Blitz 02-15-2006 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milla
Quote:

Originally Posted by Himmler
plzdie:

No you plzdie:

lol



I need 2 gigs cause BF2 and porn are slutting my comp up.

fixed

c312 02-15-2006 09:33 PM

has anyone tried the new Windows Antispyware, renamed, "Windows Defender?"

Arkan 02-15-2006 09:39 PM

Damn......only got 1G of RAM. Things seems smooth so far so i'm not gonna sweat it.

Remember the days when you thought you were the shit for having 256MB of RAM ?

Himmler 02-15-2006 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkan
Damn......only got 1G of RAM. Things seems smooth so far so i'm not gonna sweat it.

Remember the days when you thought you were the shit for having 256MB of RAM ?

hahah yeah, i remember the days i thought i was the shit for having a amd k6 processor. rock:

Short Hand 02-16-2006 01:14 AM

i386 architecture has been the standard since 1986.

Jin-Roh 02-19-2006 09:06 PM

[quote="Short Hand":98bef]i386 architecture has been the standard since 1986.[/quote:98bef]

are you saying it needs to be changed...


wtf is it anyway

Miscguy 02-19-2006 10:07 PM

[quote:c1159][url:c1159]http://www.groundforce1.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1012551[/url:c1159][/quote:c1159]

Answer.

[url:c1159]http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2668[/url:c1159]

[url:c1159]http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2695[/url:c1159]

[url:c1159]http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/12/09/seven_of_nvidia/[/url:c1159]

Forte 02-19-2006 10:10 PM

I dont trust myself building a computer on my own (heavy handed). My dad said he would pay for it, and write it off as a company expense, as long as I work for 6 months for him.

I will be mapping, and gaming (ofcourse) with the computer. Mapping takes a hell of a lot of processing power, and a lot of memory.

my choices for processors is between the AMD 3800, and 4200. Would going up to the 4200 be that much of a performance boost? Or would I be better off sticking with the 3800?

When it comes to graphics cards, 7800GTX or X1900?

I have basically everything else covered. just need to know about the processor, and graphics card.
_________________

Miscguy 02-19-2006 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forte
I dont trust myself building a computer on my own (heavy handed). My dad said he would pay for it, and write it off as a company expense, as long as I work for 6 months for him.

I will be mapping, and gaming (ofcourse) with the computer. Mapping takes a hell of a lot of processing power, and a lot of memory.

my choices for processors is between the AMD 3800, and 4200. Would going up to the 4200 be that much of a performance boost? Or would I be better off sticking with the 3800?

When it comes to graphics cards, 7800GTX or X1900?

I have basically everything else covered. just need to know about the processor, and graphics card.
_________________

[quote:77be5]quote:
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http://www.groundforce1.com/forums/view ... ?t=1012551
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Answer.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/sh ... spx?i=2668

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2695

http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/12/09/seven_of_nvidia/ [/quote:77be5]

n00b.

geRV 02-20-2006 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forte
I dont trust myself building a computer on my own (heavy handed). My dad said he would pay for it, and write it off as a company expense, as long as I work for 6 months for him.

I will be mapping, and gaming (ofcourse) with the computer. Mapping takes a hell of a lot of processing power, and a lot of memory.

my choices for processors is between the AMD 3800, and 4200. Would going up to the 4200 be that much of a performance boost? Or would I be better off sticking with the 3800?

When it comes to graphics cards, 7800GTX or X1900?

I have basically everything else covered. just need to know about the processor, and graphics card.
_________________

The x1900 gives the 7800gtx a good kick in the balls, plus its a good bit cheaper than nvidia's retarded 512mb panic edition they tossed out in tiny quantities at a totally stupid price. And that price has got higher over the months, it now sells in the uk for £581.57($1,013.54), a few days ago it was selling for £640 ($1,115.44). oOo: Think the stores finally figured out they weren't gonna shift any at £640. stupid:

As for the cpu, not a ton of difference between the 3800 and the 4200 (200 mhz per core). The 3800 is regarded by most as the "budget" dual core of the amd line since its the cheapest. Personally id go for the 4400+ for the extra cache on it.

geRV 02-20-2006 04:19 PM

Un-FUCKING-beleivable, i sent that pos asrock mobo back over a month ago to get a refund, look what i get in my inbox tonight.

Hello

Your order MXXXXX12345-stfu has just been despatched.
Your invoice number is blablabla.


Your delivery is being provided by City Link.
Your Consignment Reference is Abcdef.
http://www.city-link.co.uk/track_parcel ... parcel.php

There are 1 parcel(s) in your consignment.
AU10123456




Sending me out the THIRD friggin replacement after getting 2 boards that liked to catch fire, even after i told them i wanted a refund. oOo: annoy:

Himmler 02-20-2006 05:41 PM

they caught fire? wow

geRV 02-20-2006 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Himmler
they caught fire? wow

Yup, both times i had the motherboard on top of its box on some foam, connected cpu,gfx,ram,hd and the power connector. Soon as i powered on a diode on the board beside the memory slots turrned pure white then started to burn. oOo:

Must have a few faulty components in a batch of them or somehing, made up my mind to go the shuttle pc route a while ago, can't be bothered building another full size tower up again.

Himmler 02-20-2006 06:11 PM

damn that sucks. i've had a stick of ram fry on my once for no apparent reason

elstatec 02-20-2006 06:58 PM

basically i am finally getting away from my laptop after a 4 year gap away from my ancient built P3 voodoo3 and want to build a new rig. Totally lost for what specific gpu/motherboard/cpu versions etc too look at, no problems with putting it together just need pointing to which are best too get.

looking at getting a x850xt 256mb, 1 gig of ram and a athlon 64 3200+ then whatever else and a decent motherboard if anyone could give any suggestions.

geRV 02-20-2006 07:50 PM

Mobo ; DFI LanParty UT NF4 Ultra

Gfx ; PowerColor ATI Radeon X850 XT 256MB

ram; G.Skill 2GB DDR ZX PC3200 (2x1GB) CAS2 Dual Channel Kit (better with 2 gigs)

cpu; AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 90nm (2.2 ghz)



All from http://www.overclockers.co.uk/

Not that much difference in price betwen a 3200 and a 3700, graphics wise you can grab the x850 for like £160 or so from there, though you can get an x1800xl for like £50 more and its a much better card. http://www.techspot.com/reviews/hardwar ... xl-3.shtml

geRV 02-20-2006 07:58 PM

Added it up, not too bad for a full system. dance:

REFERENCE DESCRIPTION QUANTITY PRICE COST
CP-121-AM AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 90nm (Socket 939) - Retail (ADA3700BNBOX) (CP-121-AM) 1
£134.95 £134.95
MY-007-GS G.Skill 2GB DDR ZX PC3200 (2x1GB) CAS2 Dual Channel Kit (F1-3200PHU2-2GBZX) (MY-007-GS) 1
£129.95 £129.95
GX-042-HT HIS Excalibur ATI Radeon X1800 XL 256MB GDDR3 AVIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-042-HT) 1
£179.95 £179.95
MB-014-DF DFI LanParty UT NF4 Ultra-D (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-014-DF) 1
£79.95 £79.95
CA-031-AN Antec TrueBlue 2.0 480W PSU (CA-031-AN) 1
£59.95 £59.95
CA-017-TT Thermaltake VB1000BNS Soprano SuperMidi Tower - Black (CA-017-TT) 1
£39.95 £39.95
Subtotal £624.70
Shipping (City Link Parcel Next Day (Delivered Mon-Fri)) £12.95
VAT £111.59
Total £749.24

elstatec 02-20-2006 08:01 PM

thanks


1gb of ram will do me fine though garv spank:


motherboard wise im looking for something cheaper

geRV 02-20-2006 08:04 PM

Dfi boards are good, think that one is sli enabled, still work fine with an ati board in it though obviously.

geRV 02-20-2006 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elstatec
thanks


1gb of ram will do me fine though garv spank:


motherboard wise im looking for something cheaper

Have to get akuma in this thread, i don;t know much about amd setups since i don't own one. Usually abit\asus\dfi are all good brands though.

Forte 02-21-2006 12:32 AM

cry: I am trying to get this system down to at least 2,200 bucks. I think I may have to actually build it myself if I want to do get it that low.

Forte 02-21-2006 10:01 AM

okay, I think I understand what is going on here.
This motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813131540
would work with this processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819103546
and this graphics card?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814195002


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