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Sicilian_Summers 06-10-2003 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Vance1
You see Ydiss, Christianity is different from any other religion because there was actually a guy that came here....and this dude's name was Jesus.....and he did alot of cool stuff like raise people from he dead and then he died but then he himself rose from the dead and then he went back to Heaven. There is no other religion that comes close to that.

What about Mohammed of the Islamic religion?

I have little knowledge of theology, but I do believe that Muslims believe that Mohammed was a prophet of Allah, and through his strong faith in Allah and strong faith of the Islamc religion he ascended into heaven after death, much like Jesus..

SoLiDUS 06-10-2003 03:33 PM

Can a student of History (aren't we're all? hah...) fill me in on the following:
when (date in time) did all religions come to be born ? For example, belief
in the fact that Sloidusey is your God came into 2003 on the aa.com forum!

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But seriously, when and where did they "start" ?

pest 06-10-2003 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SoLiDUS
Can a student of History (aren't we're all? hah...) fill me in on the following:
when (date in time) did all religions come to be born ? For example, belief
in the fact that Sloidusey is your God came into 2003 on the aa.com forum!

biggrin:

But seriously, when and where did they "start" ?

I give it a shot, off the top of my head.

Judaism (sp? jewish) - old - 2000 bc?
Hindu - fairly old too - 2000 bc
Christian - we do use their calendar - 34 AD
Budhism - 400-500 AD?
Islam - About the same 400 ad

Pretty much all guesses, but I think the order is right.

Sicilian_Summers 06-10-2003 03:41 PM

Pest, I think Islam and Judism are derrived from the same man, Abraham. I'm not 100% sure, but I do remember reading and thinking how rediculous it was that the believers of both religions have been fighting since biblical times and continue to fight to this day and will continue to fight in the future, when both were founded upon the journey of one man..

Vance 06-10-2003 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Vance1
You see Ydiss, Christianity is different from any other religion because there was actually a guy that came here....and this dude's name was Jesus.....and he did alot of cool stuff like raise people from he dead and then he died but then he himself rose from the dead and then he went back to Heaven. There is no other religion that comes close to that.

What about Mohammed of the Islamic religion?

I have little knowledge of theology, but I do believe that Muslims believe that Mohammed was a prophet of Allah, and through his strong faith in Allah and strong faith of the Islamc religion he ascended into heaven after death, much like Jesus..[/quote:082a4]
Did he do any miracles? Did he raise from the dead, then after that ascend to Heaven?

Sicilian_Summers 06-10-2003 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Vance1
You see Ydiss, Christianity is different from any other religion because there was actually a guy that came here....and this dude's name was Jesus.....and he did alot of cool stuff like raise people from he dead and then he died but then he himself rose from the dead and then he went back to Heaven. There is no other religion that comes close to that.

What about Mohammed of the Islamic religion?

I have little knowledge of theology, but I do believe that Muslims believe that Mohammed was a prophet of Allah, and through his strong faith in Allah and strong faith of the Islamc religion he ascended into heaven after death, much like Jesus..

Did he do any miracles? Did he raise from the dead, then after that ascend to Heaven?[/quote:1eca9]

Possibly.. I have no knowledge of the religion, or of Mohammed himself.

pest 06-10-2003 03:47 PM

[quote="Sicilian_Summers":e7964]Pest, I think Islam and Judism are derrived from the same man, Abraham. I'm not 100% sure, but I do remember reading and thinking how rediculous it was that the believers of both religions have been fighting since biblical times and continue to fight to this day and will continue to fight in the future, when both were founded upon the journey of one man..[/quote:e7964]

I dont think islam came into its own as a religion until mohammed arrived. I am pretty sure he is the founder of the faith, much like jesus created the christian religion. Remember - Jesus was a Jew. Hence my later date on the timeline. If i remeber correctly, mohammeds family fought over control of the faith after his death and split the religion into the current sunni and shite division.

Vance 06-10-2003 03:49 PM

Jesus didn't create Christianity - it had been around a long time before he came around.

pest 06-10-2003 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Vance1
Did he do any miracles? Did he raise from the dead, then after that ascend to Heaven?

Mohammed was a prophet, not a messiah, just as budha was a monk.

Vance 06-10-2003 03:50 PM

Well then until you can find me a man that was a messiah like Jesus, big J reigns supreme. cool:

pest 06-10-2003 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Vance1
Jesus didn't create Christianity - it had been around a long time before he came around.

Nope. They were jews before the coming of Jesus. Everyone of them. Jesus instructed his disciples to go out and preach his word and create the church.

Ydiss 06-10-2003 03:53 PM

Couldn't agree more, Tiwaz. Nice that we can agree and yet still discuss biggrin:

Vance 06-10-2003 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Vance1
Jesus didn't create Christianity - it had been around a long time before he came around.

Nope. They were jews before the coming of Jesus. Everyone of them. Jesus instructed his disciples to go out and preach his word and create the church.

Well, I know Moses and other guys were around before Jesus, and your right, they were Jews - but they had contact with God, which was the Father of Jesus, so uh...it's almost the same thing.

Low spark 06-10-2003 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by pest
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Originally Posted by Vance1
Jesus didn't create Christianity - it had been around a long time before he came around.

Nope. They were jews before the coming of Jesus. Everyone of them. Jesus instructed his disciples to go out and preach his word and create the church.

Well, I know Moses and other guys were around before Jesus, and your right, they were Jews - but they had contact with God, which was the Father of Jesus, so uh...it's almost the same thing.

Almost is right. The God of Judaism is a vengful god, and the God of the Chistianity is a forgiving god.
And vance you are right Christianty was not created by Jesus, but by men based on the teachings of Christ.

Simo Häyhä 06-10-2003 04:25 PM

were all going to hell


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