Suddenly I have some respect for France!!
 

i will be anxiously awaiting the outcome of this vote, i just hope Canada steps up next and does the same.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/02 ... index.html

please tell me what is so good about banning a religous right of a people ?...I would hope Frances COnstitution of charter of Freedom and RIghts would have something against this type of thing.

9! Das ist nicht gut.

Restricting freedom for security is still restricting freedom.

In no way should a free people be told by there government that any aspect of their native religion is banned.

I'm with you Short.

IM With Vac..HEIL!

I am of two minds on this;

I agree with it, in that, over here for instance, I have found that typical Australian culture has receeded of late to accomodate foreign immigrants and their culture. I have no problem with this, but if our traditions and culture is being compromised to accomodate theirs, then it is only fair that this goes both ways.

Having said this, I think that taking the traditional headwear of the muslim people is crossing the line, almost to the point of being petty oOo:

What's the religion were they have to carry a little knife with them?

If you can't say The Lord's Prayer in school anymore, some muslim chick shouldn't be allowed to wear that kind of garb.

Equality. That's all it boils down to.

This is Nazi. I believe in Diversity not Assimilation.

well said.

[quote="Captain Wilkins":9f552]well said.[/quote:9f552]

I agree

But the Christian kids can still wear "small" crosses. As long as it’s not seen. They’re singling out those who have obvious symbols, and by doing so are aiming directly at certain religions, which is just fucking wrong.

Frankly what’s the big deal is about what’s worn on your head, it shouldn’t fucking matter. To say that since kids cant prey in school then other kids shouldn’t be able to wear a headdress that there religion has worn since before some counties were formed is simply asinine. The headdress does nothing to disrupt any one else learning unless they’re a racist or a complete dipshit who wants to make a big deal out of it. Saying "the lords" prayer in school is disruptive, and does discriminate against other religion. Sure you may say it’s for every religion but it’s generally understood that it’s for "the lords" prayer. Kind of like an office Christmas party, the management calls it the "holiday" party so there not discriminatory, while everyone else just calls it the Christmas party.

The statement of "French values were under attack" by the kids wearing these things is beyond belief. If your values are so fragile as to be threatened by a hat, you deserve to have them pushed to the whey side. This is a travesty against all religions targeted and against freedom of religion itself.

What’s next, turban free restaurants? Perhaps cab drivers in New York shouldn’t wear them anymore because it brings bad images to passenger’s minds. Oh I know, lets take down the crosses that hang outside of churches, and signs that have prayer passages on them. While were at it lets make all churches, sinagogs, and other religious building square, and paint them white. That way you wont have to know what type of people go that un-socially acceptable place.

Why don’t they ban baseball hats, or "football" caps? They show support for a team. A belief that the team on that hat is the best one around, or is simply your favorite. Same meaning really, just for a sports team rather than a creator of everything.

To say that a silent statement of religion is tantamount to stopping class to pray is fucking stupid zone. If anything it’s a poor fashion choice, but it is there choice to wear it. I’m not going to stop you from wearing that shirt, or those shoes. So why should I make them stop wearing what amounts to a fucking hat.

On a side note: I’m not religious in the least, but this situation is fucking stupid. Nothing like this should happen to any religion. I may not believe in your god, but I believe in your right to follow him/her/it as blindly as you want, as long as it’s not by ramming it down my gullet.

I'm not continuing this debate because I don't have strong feelings about the subject. I really don't. I'm not even sure why I chimed in.

You're right miscguy. I was wrong. I'm gonna leave it at that.

...and kids should never "prey" at school. We don't need another Columbine.

I have conflicting views on this.

1. Who gives a shit if someone wheres a rag on their head.

2. I hate muslims.

3. I hate france.

So I feel so stupid that I can't even make a judgement call on this one. I mean are Jewish people aloud to wear their kippas there? If no then I think the muslims shoudn't be able to either. Either way it's another stupid french law by the stupid french National Assembly.

you're there to learn, not express your religions annoy:

Their country, their rules.