no Pvt.Caparzo

Upham heard the fighting going on and he didn't do anything because he was scared.
Upham killed willy because capt.miller was shot by him.

I don't even think upham was ment for war, he was just a translator with NO war experience.

But alot of soldiers that went over didn;t have experience either but upham was with a GOOD ranger group that was doing a "STOP ROMEL's first wave of guys" wich isn't really what they were doing but ended up doing it.

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Lorenz
Watch the film again.Willie and the SS soldier that killed Mellish are not 1 in the same.Willie couldn't kill a fly unless he was in a group of soldiers,Willie had no guts.After the SS soldier killed Mellish he walks right past Upham on the steps and Upham is shaking in his boots.
In the final closing scenes at the bridge when Upham is in the ditch and the german soldiers rush to the edge of the bridge he notices Willie and see Willie shoots Tom hanks character,then the p-51's start bombing destroying the Tiger tank,the German soldiers start running away in fear.Upham stands up and captures the group with willie with them and he shoots willie.

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its the same guy he just might look different when he killed mellish because of his facial expressions. If it wasn't him he would have killed Upham too.


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Easy solution...can someone who has the movie please just watch the friggin credits. Put this chit to rest once and for all. I still think he's the same guy http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

Now that i think about it i don't think the guy who stabbed the other guy was the guy that upham let go. he didn't kill upham on the stairs because there are rules to war. Even the germans had rules. upham wasn't instigating anything and took his hands off his gun and therefore the german did not shoot him. Now did upham see steamboat willy shoot captain miller? casue if he didn't then he would have no reaon to shoot himif he didn't see that. So if he ddin't see that, then the guy who stabbed the guy upstairs must be willy.

I dunno i'm all confused.

Ok morons http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/biggrin.gif here s a few dvd grabs, it is NOT the same fukin guy simple as that.

"steamboat willie"
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald....-surrender.jpg

again steamboat willie
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.marley/willie.jpg

The ss guy that stabbed mellish
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.marley/killer.jpg


There ya go its plainly obvious its NOT the same person. people seem to think its the same guy because of the haircut and so forth.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!! LOOK AT THE FACES!!!! NEIN!!!

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The uni can't really mean anything, don't forget even the Allied exchanged their unis several times for various reasons, weather mostly.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So your saying Steamboat Willie changed from a wehrmacht uniform to a SS uniform to kill Mellish, then back to a wehrmacht uniform to shoot Miller? Its not the same guy. You dont seem to get that Steamboat Willie was at Ramelle, as indicated by the part where he is shot by Upham, but he did NOT stab Mellish. The uniforms are the givaway.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Clever...But if you actually think about it it's not the case. Why did Upham at the end shot that specific German but let go the others? Because he saw how he stabbed Mllish and shot the other Americans without mercy, and he also regret of letting him loose when they had a chance to shoot him. Conclusion: So the message the movie's trying to tell us is 'take no prisoners, shoot or get shot at'
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Upham shot Steamboat Willie because Upham saw Willie, and the other solders, taking shots at the US solders on the other side of the bridge. Then when Upham tried to take them prisioner, Willie tried to reason with Upham again to get Upham to let him go again. Upham realised that he was just going to go back and fight them as soon as he was free so Upham shot him.


Thank you Gerard for the proof. =)

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thank you Gerard...finally the people who insist it was the same will wake up. I was gonna try to do screencaps as well to proove it.

Are you guys retarded? why are we even having this conversation, did you even see the movie? The guy that stabbed melish didn't look anything like the guy at the radar station who shot miller at the end. WTF is wrong with you people?

The guy that stabbed melish was really big guy with a DIFFERENT FACE and uniform, the guy who shot miller/radar station was a skinny guy who looked totally different... wtf?

How is this even a topic for discussion...

Alright, you know when Cpt. Miller and his company are at the radar field? And you know that German that they captured...ya know, the one who was saying "I love America, Fuck Hitler...Fuck Hitler"...well, was that the same guy who ends up slowly stabbing the guy at the end? My friend tells me its the same guy, but Im not too sure on that...



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Ahhh, thanks Gerard, guys look up if you missed it.

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Cool I'm glad this is finally to rest. I believed he was the same guy but now that I've seen the screens I know. But to say they don't look anything alike is ridiculous. I just thought they were the same guys for the fact that he didn't kill umpham going down the stairs because he owed him that. It would have made a lot more sense for them to be the same guys, but oh well!! http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

yes it is

Acually, its not the same guy. Steamboat Willie, as the German solder can be called, is part of the wehrmacht. He does get picked up by the germans and shoved back into service, and was at Ramelle, as is shown when Upham and Steamboat Willie run into each other at the end and Upham shoots him. Now, Mellish is stabbed by solder from the Waffen SS (I belive, it was some SS division). Not the same guy.

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I also tought that Steamboat Willie was the one that stabbed Mellish.
In fact i still think he is the one.
Maybe that is a little mistake made in the movie.(Cant believe it!!!)
Steamboat willie is an Wehrmacht soldier.
How can it be that he is the one stabbing Melish in a SS uniform????
I am 100% sure that Willie is the one stabbing!!!!!