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Johnj 07-23-2005 01:53 PM

Man shot 'not connected' to bombings
 
[url=http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/23/london.tube/index.html:e1a93]Here[/url:e1a93] is the rest of the story. I thought only us yanks were triggerhappy.

Pyro 07-23-2005 04:43 PM

Well others are trigger-happy, just not as much as the second biggest country in North America.

Johnj 07-24-2005 06:15 AM

[url=http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&e=1&u=/nm/20050724/ts_nm/security_britain_dc:8bae7]Here[/url:8bae7] is an update.

Coleman 07-24-2005 08:59 AM

I don't blame them. The dude was running away. Now if he had a bomb and they hesitated to shoot, the world would scrutinize them for not shooting. Either way, people will find fault in it.

I think they made the right choice. No one needs to run away from the police like that in a train station (especially after what happened on the other week).

Mr.Buttocks 07-24-2005 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Coleman
I don't blame them. The dude was running away.


If they were so concerned about this guy they would have stopped him before he got anywhere near the tube station. They were tailing him from the moment he left the block of flats they were monitoring, all the way to the tube station. En route to the tube station, the guy caught a bus. Apparently it's ok for a suspected suicide bomber to board a bus. oOo:

Coleman 07-24-2005 10:39 AM

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":4232b]
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Originally Posted by Coleman
I don't blame them. The dude was running away.


If they were so concerned about this guy they would have stopped him before he got anywhere near the tube station. They were tailing him from the moment he left the block of flats they were monitoring, all the way to the tube station. En route to the tube station, the guy caught a bus. Apparently it's ok for a suspected suicide bomber to board a bus. oOo:[/quote:4232b]that probably fits under the second thing i described ---> He might be a bomber, but we don't know for sure. I can't do anything about it or the media will have my ass for it.

Jimbo@ 07-24-2005 11:38 AM

Guess they had to kill the guy so they wouldn't miss tea and crumpets. Those darn Englishmen.

Point being, though: if I saw a bunch of guys running at me with MP5's or whatever the hell they had, I'd probably try to shoot them if I had one, if they didn't ID themselves as cops. It takes a split second to pull my gun, so hopefully they say "police freeze" very very quickly.

Johnj 07-24-2005 11:52 AM

In England the police (Bobies) don't carry guns. So if someone starts waving a gun around yelling STOP I'd run away. Also in England it against the law for you to own let alone carry a gun.

Coleman 07-24-2005 12:07 PM

looks like that shot his argument down.

I just think the guy was either retarded for running or felt like he had something to hide (drugs or something else illegal). But then again, the authorities would have probably stated if they found any illegal substances on the guy so that rules that out.

Mr.Buttocks 07-24-2005 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnj
So if someone starts waving a gun around yelling STOP I'd run away.

And remember, the 3 guys that confronted him, and chased him, were in plain clothes. I don't know if these are the guys, if they're not then there from the same 'group' of people.

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Out of the 3 main people chasing him, only one person was seen to be brandishing a gun -- an automatic pistol -- as the guy was chased into the train. Also worth nothing; A journalist was in the carriage when the guy was killed. He said that the Brazilian guy tripped as he ran onto the train, and the guys chasing him jumped on top of him, then shot him 5 times.

Madmartagen 07-24-2005 02:20 PM

yeah, i dont understand why they shot him if he was already pinned down.

Poseidon 07-24-2005 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Madmartagen
yeah, i dont understand why they shot him if he was already pinned down.

yup this also puzzled me, why shoot him if hes pinned?

BeanerMan 07-24-2005 07:04 PM

Maybe they thought he was going to detanate a bomb he might have been hiding in his jacket. Just a thought. Still messed how they shot him like that though.

c312 07-24-2005 07:16 PM

no doubt it was a very difficult decision to make at that point that needed to be made immediately. Sometimes thinks like that just happen and you can't really do anything about it.

Jimbo@ 07-25-2005 01:17 AM

Well the people who shot the guy needs to be punished for abuse of power and excessive use of force.


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