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Short Hand 08-20-2005 04:11 PM

Window Decals.
 
Well, I hang around a few local Audio shops here in town and around town etc, I started talking with a good buddy of mine who owns one of the shops and started talking about doing some window vynls/ decals for his shop. The one he was using @ the tiem being looks kind of horrid... Not to mention crooked... So I said I would whip up some free ones, I am looking to do some amatuer work and this was the perfect chance. Seeing as these were vynls the whole idea had to be simple black and white etc. I did most of the work by vectoring up subwoofers and finding fonts that were free and had a nice "techish/thick" look to them.

I have done quite a few variants of the orginals so bare with me.
1.
[img]http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/823/beta4stockvariant33333331copy7.jpg[/img]
2.
[img]http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/9135/anothervariation0en.jpg[/img]
3.
[img]http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/8700/beta4stockcopy8yp.jpg[/img]
4.
[img]http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/143/beta4stockcopy36666666sp.jpg[/img]
5.
[img]http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/4944/beta4stockvariant1copy5it.jpg[/img]
6.
[img]http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/5109/beta4stockvariant2copy3iy.jpg[/img]
7.
[img]http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/7210/littlesider2225bo.jpg[/img]
8.
[img]http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/9494/newvynl222copy6gd.jpg[/img]
9.
[img]http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/9321/newvynl4449bg.jpg[/img]
10.
[img]http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/1213/symbolwithvynl3ug.jpg[/img]
11.
[img]http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/7897/samopleealltech4eo.jpg[/img]
12.
[img]http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/9732/vynl111copy8mr.jpg[/img]

More to follow, pick a couple out that strike you as a
fav etc. Thanks a ton !

Poseidon 08-20-2005 04:13 PM

I like 1 and 3.

Stammer 08-20-2005 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poseidon
I like 1 and 3.


Short Hand 08-20-2005 04:15 PM

I added a couple in, so the numbers have changed a bit**** sorry. I will also number them now*

Sgt. Paine 08-20-2005 04:16 PM

i like 1,3, and 4. good job

Poseidon 08-20-2005 04:19 PM

ok new choices. 2, 5, 8

Judas 08-20-2005 04:34 PM

2 is probably the best ... im not trying to be an ass but i just dont like any of them ...

you also have to think about what 2 is going to look like ... the grid is a good idea but its going to look strange cut off in a rectangle. also, you might wanna think about using some color to give them some punch. they just look too boring imo given how you plan to use them.

also:

[img]http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/7897/samopleealltech4eo.jpg[/img]

the text might work better outside the speaker on this one. i think you might just have something with this one if you do so ...

Short Hand 08-20-2005 04:37 PM

Black & White only. Color costs to much. Simple does it in the case of decals.

http://www.roadcatalogs.com/store/decals.html = examples.

Tripper 08-20-2005 07:23 PM

You have to think about reprintability for varying substrates of different sizes, etc

Will it look good and still be legible at a small size? Does the white spaces leave enough distance from the black for ink bleeds? Or if there is a slight bleed, will it blur the strokes together.

I would totally rule out those bottom two - They're horrid for logos. Then I'd rule out all of the ones with fine strokes, and technical lines, fades etc. Simplicity is really key to a nice looking logo.

I personally would rule out alot of those simply because the X and Y axis lengths are too contrasted - I.e Aside from the last two - They're all too long for what it's trying to say, and it doesn't look right when the typeface isn't tall enough. Try some different typefaces....

If you want it too look professional, I'd be inclined to line up every aspect of it. On none of them, does that phone number line up correctly. It looks messy and amatuerish.

....Based on the above - IMO, the only real choice is the top one. And even then it needs a lot of work

I also agree with Judas about the colour thing, try adding a second tone. Like an orange or a sharp looking blue.

This is just an example I chopped up of what you can do with a second colour....I just used the Impact typeface for lack of anything else suitable. (I have limited types installed on my comp)....

[img]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/Tripe05/exampleoflogo.jpg[/img]

This way your X axis isn't too long as those mammoth spaces between the words are gone - Although, I understand with that typeface you had chosen, it wouldn't look very good if you forced them together any more.
Also note with a little kerning in the phone number, and centering it directly under the main copy of text the entire logo looks less lopsided.

....Just some things to contemplate - This is the type of thing I do at uni, so I enjoy inputting into these types of things. biggrin:

P.S - If I were you, I'd try a few more variations with different typefaces because to me, thats really where it looks like it could be improved.

Wilko 08-20-2005 08:12 PM

#2

BlackJackal 08-20-2005 08:44 PM

one and two

Short Hand 08-21-2005 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tripper
You have to think about reprintability for varying substrates of different sizes, etc

Will it look good and still be legible at a small size? Does the white spaces leave enough distance from the black for ink bleeds? Or if there is a slight bleed, will it blur the strokes together.

I would totally rule out those bottom two - They're horrid for logos. Then I'd rule out all of the ones with fine strokes, and technical lines, fades etc. Simplicity is really key to a nice looking logo.

I personally would rule out alot of those simply because the X and Y axis lengths are too contrasted - I.e Aside from the last two - They're all too long for what it's trying to say, and it doesn't look right when the typeface isn't tall enough. Try some different typefaces....

If you want it too look professional, I'd be inclined to line up every aspect of it. On none of them, does that phone number line up correctly. It looks messy and amatuerish.

....Based on the above - IMO, the only real choice is the top one. And even then it needs a lot of work

I also agree with Judas about the colour thing, try adding a second tone. Like an orange or a sharp looking blue.

This is just an example I chopped up of what you can do with a second colour....I just used the Impact typeface for lack of anything else suitable. (I have limited types installed on my comp)....

[img]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/Tripe05/exampleoflogo.jpg[/img]

This way your X axis isn't too long as those mammoth spaces between the words are gone - Although, I understand with that typeface you had chosen, it wouldn't look very good if you forced them together any more.
Also note with a little kerning in the phone number, and centering it directly under the main copy of text the entire logo looks less lopsided.

....Just some things to contemplate - This is the type of thing I do at uni, so I enjoy inputting into these types of things. biggrin:

P.S - If I were you, I'd try a few more variations with different typefaces because to me, thats really where it looks like it could be improved.

I am extremely grateful for the advice, there is only one problem though, I can't 2 tone it. to add another color will double his cost on the vynl printings. He told me in person he could not have anything else other then black & white. All the other advice is much help though.

c312 08-21-2005 01:00 AM

there are a few that stand out, but I really like 6.

Short Hand 08-21-2005 01:04 AM

Well I re measured everything. Everything is measured to the pixel, sepration, I expanded to the full size and it had no distortion/ nopixelation on the printed copy.


Here is what I have come up with.

13.
[img]http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/2761/complete3335vg.jpg[/img]

14.
[img]http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/6347/compelte33333344444copy8py.jpg[/img]

lasagna 08-21-2005 04:13 PM

Go with SPL in the speaker, thas cool


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