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Pfc.Green 10-25-2002 10:05 AM

Should the sniper/s get the death penalty
 
I believe they should, they've taken the lives away from to many people to deserve to live on taxpayer money watching cable and reading books in the prison library. It would be nice if they could have slow agonizing deaths but hey I guess the gas chamber will have to do. Killers like these guys dont deserve to live, they just end up with movies about them and writing letters to news programs, continuing to get the attention they crave.

Sotilas Jane 10-25-2002 10:09 AM

Living rest of the life in prison is worse than death. Especially to that kid.

10-25-2002 10:10 AM

[quote="Sotilas Jane":047dc]Living rest of the life in prison is worse than death. Especially to that kid.[/quote:047dc]

yeah, but it wastes a shitload of taxpayer money that is better spent on education or defense.

Pfc.Green 10-25-2002 10:10 AM

[quote="Sotilas Jane":51021]Living rest of the life in prison is worse than death. Especially to that kid.[/quote:51021]

Not really, at least not here prisons are pretty lax. If they get life they need to be in a place with Alcatraz like conditions.

Low spark 10-25-2002 10:34 AM

Sorry Green. I do not believe taking another human life can be justified in any way. We live in a world were revenge has become the driving force. I do believe that a person guilty of a crime as bad as this shoul go to prison for life, no chance of parole. But I also believe that his time in prison should be hell on earth. Torture, sure.. But since I don't believe in "Heaven/Hell" death would way out for the person.

Bane 10-25-2002 11:01 AM

[quote="Low spark":d955e]...But since I don't believe in "Heaven/Hell" death would way out for the person.[/quote:d955e]

I've never thought of that angle before, Low spark. Thanks for opening my eyes a little bit.

I think the whole penal system needs to be overhauled so in regards to the sniper...???? I do know we haven't seen the last of him. The media and, god forbid, Hollywood will have a hard time letting this one go.

[]PanZeR 10-25-2002 11:19 AM

lol give em a 364 year sentence like they did to the son of sam ed:

Arkan 10-25-2002 11:39 AM

[quote="Low spark":13085]Sorry Green. I do not believe taking another human life can be justified in any way. We live in a world were revenge has become the driving force. I do believe that a person guilty of a crime as bad as this shoul go to prison for life, no chance of parole. But I also believe that his time in prison should be hell on earth. Torture, sure.. But since I don't believe in "Heaven/Hell" death would way out for the person.[/quote:13085]

Low Spark.....while i respect your views, i disagree. This is a classic case of where the death penalty should be instituted. These individuals committed murder in different states, crossed state lines with the murder weapon, committed murder while in the commission of a felony (the Alabama robbery), and probably broke many other laws that i'm not aware of.
As far as living life in prison, thats a cake walk. Have you even been inside a prison before? The prisoners are afforded 3 square meals a day, free medical & dental, recreation, religious services, alcohol & drug rehabilitation, visitation, television, work programs, law library, commissary, mental health services, and protection.....yes, protection. Life in prison isn't all that bad. Don't believe what you see on TV and what ex-cons say about prison. They play cards and watch football all day and say they had a horrible experience when they get released. And how do i know all of this?....well, lets just say i work in an enviorment where i get a chance to see all of this from time to time.
As far as being tortured, that'll never happen. I can see it now, some Correction Officer is gonna torture an inmate so he/she can lose their house and family over it!! NOT!! The people who work inside prisons are ordinary people trying to make a living...not some rogue bunch who specialize in the torture of inmates. The Officers are there to keep a lid on the place and to make sure inmates get what they are entitled to by law.
The best punishment for these clowns would be to sit on deathrow confined from other inmates waiting to die. Who cares if it takes 10 years....they'll eventually die because of their crimes.

Totenkopf 10-25-2002 12:02 PM

No, I don't care how cushy prison seems, when you become someone's
b!tch and the raping starts, you can't be very happy.

Also, it costs almost as much to put someone to death as it does to support a life sentence in prison. Most of the added cost is due to the appeals that take place because of the death sentence. I saw this on 60 minutes I believe, but I will try and find it somewhere on the net.

Pfc.Green 10-25-2002 12:24 PM

Plus inmates are paid hake:

Vance 10-25-2002 12:33 PM

[quote="Low spark":4be48]...But since I don't believe in "Heaven/Hell" death would way out for the person.[/quote:4be48]

Well since i do beileve in Heaven/Hell, i think Hell is unimaginably worse than prison, and i think this is what they deserve.

10-25-2002 01:05 PM

I dont believe in the death penalty. but if the bastard killed my kid i would. so fry the bastards. fry em good. did the idiot realy think we would pay him 10 million lmao. i knew this guy was dumb.

10-25-2002 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Totenkopf
No, I don't care how cushy prison seems, when you become someone's
b!tch and the raping starts, you can't be very happy.

Also, it costs almost as much to put someone to death as it does to support a life sentence in prison. Most of the added cost is due to the appeals that take place because of the death sentence. I saw this on 60 minutes I believe, but I will try and find it somewhere on the net.

funny how the same people who defend the Chechen terrorists also speak out against doing away with the "sniper" (and I use this term loosly)

Totenkopf 10-25-2002 03:19 PM

[quote="Sgt Stryker":f90ba]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Totenkopf
No, I don't care how cushy prison seems, when you become someone's
b!tch and the raping starts, you can't be very happy.

Also, it costs almost as much to put someone to death as it does to support a life sentence in prison. Most of the added cost is due to the appeals that take place because of the death sentence. I saw this on 60 minutes I believe, but I will try and find it somewhere on the net.

funny how the same people who defend the Chechen terrorists also speak out against doing away with the "sniper" (and I use this term loosly)[/quote:f90ba]

Defending terrorism, and trying to understand terrorism are two different things. Know your enemy. If you read my posts carefully, nowhere will you see myself saying that the Chechnyan terrorists are in the right. But that is a different thread.

Go ahead, execute the guy, makes no difference to me. Let's punish killing with killing. Anyone see a cycle?

ThinIce 10-25-2002 03:21 PM

Thats like saying... should the government do what it said it will do?.... We execute killers.... So.. um... ya! Kill the sick bastards

Pfc.Green 10-25-2002 03:25 PM

I'd rather they die, than stay in jail getting attention throught-out the years and getting paid, watching t.v., eating, and doing whatever in a nice little prison. a life sentence would be fie with me but, they would have locked up under Nazi like conditions.

Recycled Spooge 10-25-2002 03:36 PM

I believe he should be liquidated. If one does not contribute to society, and goes out of his way to destroy it, he is an absolute waste of resources. Not only is liquidation the easy way out for him, it is also the easy way out for us. Too bad they don't have exectuions by guns squads anymore; they were much better than the gas chamber. At least people feared executions back then.

SW-14 10-25-2002 03:37 PM

It's a shame that we are protected against "cruel and unusual punishment."

hake:

10-25-2002 10:31 PM

the electric chair is just plain cruel and wrong.

Innoxx 10-25-2002 10:38 PM

Let them go........ in the middle of Bagdad. With a hundred of so rounds of ammunition. I say the gov't should use these guys instead of letting them rot in a prison.

Pyro 10-25-2002 10:49 PM

still...if we kill them...then really...they should get as much "freedom" as any other murderer...so all should be put ot death or all thorwn in jail...no mureder is worse then the other, murder is murder wheter it be 1 person or 1 million.

Arkan 10-25-2002 10:57 PM

To those who are opposed to the death penalty, lemme ask this (without trying to incite a flame war). Would your views change if the person you loved most was brutally raped and bludgeoned to death? Can you truly forgive the offender?
I'm curious if anyone would change their views if they were directly affected.

Pyro 10-25-2002 11:01 PM

I would hate to see the fucker die not by the hands of myself...if they allowed me to kill him, ya it is alright with me...but I'd rather see him ass fucked 100 million times and beat the shit out of all his life instead of instant death not by my own will.

Innoxx 10-25-2002 11:03 PM

If they're going to die at least let them do something just like dropping them in the middle of Saddam's palace. Who know they might be reformed....... probably after being killed by the repbulican guard.

10-25-2002 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zxcvnm
the electric chair is just plain cruel and wrong.

they haven't used that in years, unfortunately

now they just go to sleep and never wake up. hasn't been a good hanging in awhile.

Innoxx 10-25-2002 11:06 PM

Public excutions is exactly what america needs, harden up those softies pretty quick.

Recycled Spooge 10-25-2002 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
still...if we kill them...then really...they should get as much "freedom" as any other murderer...so all should be put ot death or all thorwn in jail...no mureder is worse then the other, murder is murder wheter it be 1 person or 1 million.

I think that there is a difference between killing one and one million. One mother will not create as many babies as one million mothers.

Innoxx 10-25-2002 11:13 PM

Hey...... these guys = population control.

10-26-2002 01:07 AM

meh give him 10 years in a laxed prison and make sure people know who he is. dont have to worry about using any technology to get rid of him

my theory. sometimes you just gotta let the animals deal with things themselves. i mean really? if theres gonna be a gang fight are you better to step in and try to stop it? or arrest whoever you can once its over.

and inoxxx i have to agree. We are overpoplulating the planet, these people are a way of actually helping us to stop us from over population.

Also another theory is

terrorism=less people alive
less people alive=less posssible assholes
less assholes=a better place to live

Innoxx 10-26-2002 01:09 AM

Yup, nuttin' wrong with natural selection. Like c'mon, hunters do the same thing with deer. What's wrong with "depopulating" an area?

10-26-2002 01:16 AM

especially seeing as we are the largest plague to the planet.

do you notice we do sooo much to try to save old and deathly ill people? they are going to die anyways! the amount of money spent on medical research to find out they still dont have a cure for all thes deseases could and should be put into america's lacking education system.

and look at all the safty shit we have to children!

i may be considered the younger bunch of AA.com'ers (nearly 17)
but even when i was a kid the rules went that the kid who swallows too many marbles doesnt grow up to have children of their own. survival of the fittest. How do you think evolution happens? it surely doesnt happen when you try to fix every natural desease and problem.. No it happens by the body having to overcome desease and having to adapt to new situations.

hell the current direction of human evolution shows that we will get weakers, along with immune systems to the point where eventually most the planet will die young and only the strong will survive.

Innoxx 10-26-2002 01:22 AM

I see we have another George Carlin fan. Very true, thinking of all the gross and stupid things I did when I was young; my immune system is tough as nails, I've never had a cold in a loooooooong time. I guess I'm a pseuido anarchist.

Totenkopf 10-26-2002 03:01 AM

You know what I have decided? This fucking pasta salad my ex has fixed, isn't even good when I am drunk. Somebody put her to death. mad:

10-26-2002 03:06 AM

make her watch anna nicole smith. much worse.

Mr.X 10-26-2002 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Totenkopf
You know what I have decided? This fucking pasta salad my ex has fixed, isn't even good when I am drunk. Somebody put her to death. mad:

...you had your own opportunity to do that...but "oh no".....
you not only let her live, you allow her to prepare your food. hake:

...well, you've made your bed*, you can lie in it

(* unless your ex is still doing that for you as well )

SoLiDUS 10-26-2002 04:14 AM

Guys, I have a better idea... and it's called REAL TORTURE biggrin:

Take all of these death row / hardcore criminal motherfuckers, put them in
a cage and let them kill each other off by only giving them a very slight
amount of food and liquid everyday. Slowly but surely, they would croak one
by one until small factions are made. Here's the kicker: you always lower
the food quantity until there's only enough left for one person: it gets very
interesting very quickly.

Did I mention this would be televised or at least captured on tape ? evil:


However, and this is the ironic part of my post, I don't believe in the
death penalty (for reasons already posted) so unless someone is willing to
capitalize on my REALITY TV show, keep 'em caged up.

Mr.X 10-26-2002 04:21 AM

...ok!, I hear what you're saying...DEATH-ROW SURVIVOR!....... eek:

Captain Bunny 10-26-2002 09:27 AM

I think we had the right idea in the olden days.

theives had their hands cut off, rapists had their bits chopped off, bad criminals publicly executed to put off others - and as a form of entertainment for the crowd.

But obviously now this would go against the so god damn annoying human rights bullshit. there seems to be more laws these protecting the criminals rather than the victims.

Banishment was a good move too, kick them right of the country to an island noone really goes to. like what britian did sending people to australia, im sure we can find some islands somewhere noone really likes - how about the islands off the coast of guam that USA us as target practice for the airforce.
ohh wait, i forgot - f*cking human rights hake: cant hurt the poor defensless criminals now can we, that would be wrong.

ninty 10-26-2002 09:31 AM

Well heres a tidbit of information.

At http://www.golbeandmail.com there is a poll on this very topic.

Almost 70% say yes to the death penalty and 30% no. Ths comes from a country without the death penalty. Maybe a little suprising.

10-26-2002 09:48 AM

lets just shoot the snipers in the head


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