The Submarine Hackers
 

If your server has not been hacked by the submarine hackers who are hacking into the game while on server causing objects to appear, kick your players and more you are lucky. It has happened to alot of Mohaa servers lately. They made a mistake. They hacked into the [FS] server.

It is against the Law. I have the IPs of the hackers. They are operating out of Canada on Shaw Internet Service. I have notified my Server Rental, My Internet Service,Shaw Internet Service and ever Internet Service they hopped to get to the [FS] Server and of course the apporaite goverment agencies.

They should have not come and hacked on the Fighting For Freedom Server, belonging to the Free Soldiers.

I have the time, know how, and the money to see these Hackers burn in Hell.

Let us standed united against these hackers!

...The Eagle Has Landed...

Founder Of The Free Soldiers,
[FS] Desert Eagle

ive heard about this...i was just on a server today and they asked me if stuff had been "popping up" on our own dedicated server out of the blue...i hope they are stopped

Happened on Stalingrad on one of our [TIC] servers too.

hehe nice name

I never had it happend but thanks for stopping them so I dont have to be pissed off freak:

Very good idea. If possible put together a very small guide on what are the appropriate steps to take to report these IP address. If say XXX cable provider gets 2 or 3 complaints from server admins. There is a possibility they will lose there service.

This alone is worth the trouble. Then there parents can take care of the rest because daddy cant surf the net anymore.

We could be onto something here,

Re: The Submarine Hackers
 

[quote="[FS] Desert Eagle":89ee0]...It is against the Law...[/quote:89ee0]

What are the repercussions for those that perform this type of hacking?

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[quote=Bane]What are the repercussions for those that perform this type of hacking?[/quote:62fd6]

It's like a denial of service hack. I personally don't know specifics, but it would easily hold up in court. We pay for a service and provide it to the community and our provider also provides a service for the community (although it costs us, not them, but still). When they crash the server they are actually denying you and the people who play on your server the service you are paying for.

I agree with RD. Write a guide so we can all combat this. Not only could there be reprecussions to their cable/dsl provider, but this could even go as far as being a federal crime. That would most definately cause Daddy to choke on his coffee. evil:

A great tool for tracing hackers back to their ISP's can be found at:

[url:88688]http://www.pc-help.org/trace.htm[/url:88688]

Or you can skip reading the info about it (RTFM is the best idea) and simply download it from:

[url:88688]http://www.pc-help.org/trace/trace.zip[/url:88688]

It will find you their ISP and the ISP's provider too. (complain to both)
It will find their MAC address. (much better proof than an IP)
It will find the abuse@ address for the ISP if one exists

It also finds out some other semi-useful info.

man, whats with this crap?

why would anyone want to come into a server and crash it? some people are fuc*kin losers man.

"Hi, im a hacker and i like to crash servers! Lemme come in here and ruin the game for everyone and cause the admin alot of problems."

people like this should be shot on the spot.

heh. my thoughts right there.

ttyl.

Oh boy... where to start... you have no trace of any idea what you're talking about but you try to sound as if you actually have a clue. All right:

1: This is not a "hack" (term used by lamers who can't differentiate between hacking & cracking). This is not a modification. This doesn't even go against the EULA because they're simply using an in-game menu. That doesn't even require an .ini editing, for crap's sake. It can be activated with two command line parameters. That's all. Thank the developers for

2: There is no "attack". LOD spawn menu (which they use) is designed for spawning objects. That's its purpose, spawning, not crashing. The fact that it MAY crash a game is because of server configuration, state of the game, etc. It MAY crash the game by lagging but that's not the purpose of spawning an object. So there's not even a malicious intent in it, not to mention actually using anything remotely "illegal" for it.

3: This is not a DoS attack. This is not an attack at all. Their ISP will look at their logs, won't find any port scanning, any packet bombing, nothing malicious. Not a thing, so he will just ignore you. And that's it. All you can do is ban the abusers from your servers. Which is what I did on mine, permbanning their whole IP range, so those with dynamic IPs won't be able to return, either.

I think it is some kind of deficiency syndrome, they like to screw everyone over in cyberspace because they're inferior in teh real world.

Because they know that they can't screw people over in real life (because they will probably get stuffed in a very small locker, or put in jail), they do it in games where we can't do anything bad to them.

Oh BTW, here's a tip for admins who actually know what to do: how to recognize the spawning guy and ban him? This is what I did.

It's true that by default spawning a large object with lodtool WILL disconnect the offensive player, so if something gets spawned and the player who just left then immediately reconnects, he MAY be the guilty one. MAY BE. BUT by a simple modification they can STAY connected after spawning the object. Additionally, a lagging player who's near the spawned object may be disconnected or kicked instead (or with) the person who did the spawning. So this is no clue. The only real way of recognizing them was what I did on my server: I knew someone was spawning fire all over (without disconnecting), so I started watching everyone. That was the clue. Bringing up the LOD menu and selecting the object to spawn takes a lot of time. They can't move then, so I looked for players who didn't move for quite a while and started moving right after something spawned. That's how I recognized them and banned them.

we have made a small fix for this but there is a nasty bug where the server crash's at the ned of the first map once we iron it out we will realesh it and stop this crap.

correct, too many people trying to sound clever here are making themselves look like complete retards. its an annoying 'bug' in the game if EA dont fix it then we will all have to put up with it. end of story.

Omg Powell, your the one who told people how to do this on another post in this Forum.

I thought you weren't making cheats no more?? After all your pleading not to be banned from our Server, that you don't cheat no more and all that crap, "go ahead and spectate me" lol we both know that doesn't do anything. But now you go ahead and post about a work around on Force Models after all your pathetic pleading? omg

"i am currently working on a workaround for the Anti-ForceModels mods out there. what this mod does is replace every stock skins with the skins identical to XXXXXXXXX. Every Allied stock skin will be yellow, and every Axis stock skin will be red. all will include the see-thru walls script.

This way, even if the server forces a stock skin for you, it will always be an edited one.

I am going to release the mod this weekend, after Halloween."



Your truly pathetic man, and I still do not know why your able to even come to this site, being one of the biggest maker of cheats for the game out there.

Ant
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Whoever is hacking into people servers must be pretty smart....I've never seen a sub or shit like that before.

Actually I disagree. Whoever is hacking is stupid. Cause they'll get caught sooner or later. On top of that, I could easily, easily do shit like that,

Anteaus, i can understand your concern for cheaters on your server. but you gotta understand something bro. i make skins and shit for other people. i never use them myself. obviously you cant understand this. i never use cheats online. making them and using them are 2 totally different things. its like not playing a map i made. same rules apply. when i joined your server, i was honestly running 0 cheats. but b/c of what you have seen/heard, you chose to not believe me.

just b/c i am making a skin pack like that does not make me a cheater. if you can tell me how im cheating by making (not using) skins like that, then im all ears.

thanks for your time Ant. ttyl.

The more you open your mouth powell the more shit comes out.

"I make cheats for other guys...I dont use them myself"

WTF...is that supposed to make everything ok?

You're worse than the guys using your cheats.

If I have any say in it, and I do, consider yourself banned from the aa.com server asshole.

Anyone from Tribes remember HaPpy NuTz and how he fucked up Tribes comepetition with his cheats?
An entire clan banned and shunned by the Tribes community for making cheats.

I agree with you 100% Jasper :) This guy really is missing some cards 'up there'


Ant

I have higher hopes for you Mpowell. Please do not disappoint me. I understand, you say you do not use them. But providing the tools for others to use, to cheat , and disrupt a server your (Mpowell) not paying for.

Maybe the community needs to stick together. Stop using your maps. stop posting your maps. Pull said maps from the current sites and servers. What harm will it cause? Your going to start posting your cheats and using them. Big Deal, no more harm, then is already done.

I need to think about this more. I might be onto something here..

Please don't take this the wrong way, I have gone out on a limb trying to stick up for you, in other threads. But the more I hear and see, upsets me and as you and everyone else knows, I am a very passive person, until someone pisses me off, *cough teamgod *cough

You know, this sounds like a crack dealer trying to claim he/she's not a killer. Justification of what you do on any level is only senseless excuses. And you probably don't see the justification of everyone's anger/dissapointment in you, do you? The fact that a great deal of us are paying good amounts of money every month in hopes that we can all have fun, and all you can do is tell the idiots of the community how they can basically rob us of that money/good time. And I personally could care less if you cheat or not, I think the fact that you provide this information and the tools to cheat to others should be more than enough reason for the decent admins of the community to ban you from their servers. The less servers available for you to play on, the better this community would be IMO.

Re: The Submarine Hackers
 

[quote=
Let us standed united against these hackers!

...The Eagle Has Landed...

Re: The Submarine Hackers
 

you homosexual or something? or just american? how do you know those guys were not just using proxy's? using visualroute or something like that is not going to cut it man! bigzooka: oOo:

The Submarine Hack is a in-game glitch left by the developers of Mohaa. It is easy to do and many items can be spawned into the game, in the end causing the server to crash. I also now know how it is done. Alot of people are looking for a fix for it, perhaps someone will figure out a good fix. I am also looking for away to stop this from happening.

There is one quick fix that will be put into place to at least hamper those who want to do this. The player doing the act will not be moving or will be specating. So starting soon on our server the specator time-limit will be very low along with the inactive player time.

So specators will be dropped along with inactive players very quickly.

Re: The Submarine Hackers
 

[quote="[FS] Desert Eagle":40ecd]If your server has not been hacked by the submarine hackers who are hacking into the game while on server causing objects to appear, kick your players and more you are lucky. It has happened to alot of Mohaa servers lately. They made a mistake. They hacked into the [FS] server.

It is against the Law. I have the IPs of the hackers. They are operating out of Canada on Shaw Internet Service. I have notified my Server Rental, My Internet Service,Shaw Internet Service and ever Internet Service they hopped to get to the [FS] Server and of course the apporaite goverment agencies.

They should have not come and hacked on the Fighting For Freedom Server, belonging to the Free Soldiers.

I have the time, know how, and the money to see these Hackers burn in Hell.

Let us standed united against these hackers!

...The Eagle Has Landed...

Founder Of The Free Soldiers,
[FS] Desert Eagle[/quote:40ecd]
I LOVE YOU MAN! oOo:

[quote:8b4b5]The more you open your mouth powell the more shit comes out.

"I make cheats for other guys...I dont use them myself"

WTF...is that supposed to make everything ok?

You're worse than the guys using your cheats.
[/quote:8b4b5]
What he said.
Scoob

ANteaus, Capt_McCusker, Jasper, rudedog,

???? What are you guys talking about in regards to 1944. Yes I have seen his post on the cheat sight and yes I have seen his pictures of hacks that he was making. But if you read the forum real well you will see that he never released any of those hacks into the public. He also was not the person that was responsible for letting everyone in that forum know how to use the command to do the spawning. He has also said in that forum that he is done making hacks completly. But go ahead and keep bagging on him and piss him off. All thats going to do is push him into the group that wants him around.

Quasi.. Anyone that makes cheats uses them. I don't care how many times he tells us he doesn't. Why would you make something but not use it? Sound pretty dumb to me. Kinda like saying when the old timers built their own house with their own bare hands. You think they sold them? Hell no they lived in them. Okay maybe not the best analogy but hey you get the idea. ;)

[quote="Gauge.pZ":8127e]Quasi.. Anyone that makes cheats uses them. I don't care how many times he tells us he doesn't. Why would you make something but not use it? Sound pretty dumb to me. Kinda like saying when the old timers built their own house with their own bare hands. You think they sold them? Hell no they lived in them. Okay maybe not the best analogy but hey you get the idea. ;)[/quote:8127e]

Gauge,

I don't want to get into a debate with you on this subject mainly because its off topic but lots of people make things that they never use or don't make public. I can not believe you have never done something just to see if you could do it. Thats what hackers do, look at the code and the way the program works and then try to edit it to make it do something else. Its fun and sometimes funny. The biggest thrill is when someone say this is cheat proof and will catch all the cheaters. Thats just begging for hackers to break it.

But just because you do it does not mean you use it or even have it anymore. I myself have found a group of people that I play with often and am somewhat sure that they do not use hacks or mods so have wiped all them out of my main and play with a straight virgin install now.

Can hacking and mods cause problems, heck ya, in the hands of people that have no morals or abuse them they can and have caused problems.

Ok Quasi I gotta put my $.02 in now. Why dont you now try and explain away the hacking web site he put up too!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ive been following all the posts on both sides of de fence and I still dont get this guy. I dont know if hes just runnin his own publicity campaign or what!?! Hes jumped the fence more times than illegals on the border. Sure I wanna beleive that most people are basicly honest but, Powell has lost respect, kinda like a cheatin gfriend. Its gonna take a while to gain that back.
Now LETS GO PLAY!!!!!!!!!!! fire2:

Shut the f**k man! Who cares if its illegal or not and who cares if what hes saying is true or not, the point is at least he's trying to stop these idiots from ruining the game, more than youre doing with your bit**ing about details. If youre so knowledgable about these things then why dont you help us to STOP this, or maye you are one of the idiots thats doing it in the first place.

PHEW! Sorry if I went off a bit there everyone, cheaters and game trashers really get me angry. evil:

My thoughts are this:

If you know of a game cheat, great. Tell someone who can do something about it: DogMeat, Crow King, etc.

If you are working on stopping them from working, even better.

Why argue? We're trying to improve the game, not rant on others!

I'd just like to thank the people who came out and told these retards it's not "some sort of denial of service" hack. lol

you people are too much eek:

[img]http://home.attbi.com/~snoooper/st.jpg[/img]
like seriously, what the fuck is this?

There were 3 suspicous IP addys and 2 nicks that we found when objects started spawning on our server. I banned them, and set autokick to do a ban check every 5 seconds. It's worked so far....


Pesti.