Ya, like when you see a Bazooka hitting a tank sometimes, it looks like it barely did anything because theres no explosion, but the point of AP rounds is to pierce the armor and disable certain mechanics or crew members. Most of the time, unless oil or gas is hit, AP rounds wont make a tank explode, just usually stop it.

be cool if u had an anti tank rifle, i know a bit advanced for the day but itd be cool. shoot a tank and have the bullet bounce around inside http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/wink.gif

i just saw the new movie with the tank shooting... but No EXPLOSION. what's rong?

Your spelling of the word wrong.

sorry had to say that.

Actually I noticed that as well, but don't know much about WWII tanks, I always assumed their shells were explosive.

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Actually, I saw a picture of some Russian Soldiers in WW2 with an Anti Tank Rifle, I'm not sure of the name though or which book it was in.

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Plenty of shit explodes, I think he means no muzzle flash on the tank.

if u watch it again u'll see the thing hit the ground right before the soldier, that would explain the dirt and smoke instead of huge fire http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/cool.gif

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Actually, there are different kinds of shells that panzers used. AP, or armor piercing, do NOT make an explosion, and were used exclusively against hard targets like...other tanks.

APHE, or Armor Piercing High Explosive, which were AP shells with a HE core. These shells were meant to pierce hard targets...like tanks...and then explode once they had pierced the tanks armor.

HE or High Explosive rounds were used against soft targets, like infantry, and made an explosioon based upon the caliber of the cannon firing the shell. 3.7cm HE shells didn't make a big explosion, 8.8cm HE shells made a huge explosion.

There are others rounds, a lot in fact, such as HEAT, etc...but you get the picture. It depends on just what shell that Tiger fired. If the Tiger commander was expecting to fight other tanks, he would have his loader load an AP shell. So, to load an HE shell, he would have to get rid of the AP shell already loaded. How do you do that? Well you sure as hell don't take a live round out of the cannon. Tank crews never did this...to get rid of a round, to load a different type, they always just shot off the round in the breach, and loaded a new one.

Of course, most German tanks, used APHE, not AP, so the missing explosion is odd. However, it could just be a AP round, being fired off, to load HE rounds.

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Damn, that could be turned into some sort of high powered sniper rifle. That thing would get some major range with that barrel.

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Actually anti-tank rifles were pretty useless, and were only used in the early years of the war. By 1944 AT rifles were non-existent, on the battlefield.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BallisticWookie:
Damn, that could be turned into some sort of high powered sniper rifle. That thing would get some major range with that barrel.

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Dude! From 100 meters the bullet would go through 33mm of armor!! Some manuals say that even 40mm. Most if not all German tanks had armor the width of 7 through 30mm of armor. It makes a hole that is the diameter of 20mm and pierce through 15mm or armor from 300 meters away at an angle of only 30^0.


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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Wolfshook:
100 meters is almost the maximum range for nearly ever AT rifle out there. After 150-200 meters they were useless against any decently armored tank.

AT rifles were useless long range.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>So what if it's basic long range, that gun was made in 1935 not now.
Actually, this gun was very good, so good that the Germans copied it and also gave some to the Italians. You know 100 meters is pretty far away and it still could shoot through 15mm of armor from 300m.

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And quit making up numbers off the top of your head. Poo..I bet you don't even know what that gun is called.

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Accually Koshi, in modern day tanks there is a round call a sabot. What it bassically is when its fired the shell casing disintergrates and all thats left flying is a 3ft depleted uranium arrow. When it hits its target the friction accutally melts armor. Which causes gas to ignite rounds to go off. It acually makes a fairly large explosion.

100 meters is almost the maximum range for nearly ever AT rifle out there. After 150-200 meters they were useless against any decently armored tank.

AT rifles were useless long range.

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the AT rifles in Sudden Strike were devatating

the AT rifles in Sudden Strike were devastating

word dude we used those in the gulf, like u said it burns though the metalk and torches the inside of the tank....the explosion is the ronds inside the enemy tank exploding from the heat http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/biggrin.gif hehe

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15mm of armor penetration is nothing. Most tanks, even in 1940 had 20-30mm at least. Again, I'll say it, AT rifles, were practically useless. But, if you don't want to belive me, that's ok.


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