Listen EA!! Look at the numbers! Then you decide!
 

The only way to get a company's attention and to
change it's mind. Is to show it hard number that make
good business since.

Yes we could have setup a petition but I think this is
short sweet and to the point.
Please everyone,
send this thread's link to as many MOH or gaming sites out there.
We need as many buyers of EA games
as possible. To vote on this.
Please keep the comments on topic and no derogatory
remarks please

Also if possible post this link in as many forums as possible, I have already sent emails to TMT, this site, PMOH and MMGN forums ( MOH ). I have not posted in EA's official site or ASE site. so if someone could drop them a line I and the rest of the community would appreciate it.

Without a doubt in my mind, ASE all the way! Why would EA do that exclusive browser deal with Gamespy is beyond me. mad:

ASE all the way man, i wont be purchasing spearhead unless ASE support is added.

I thought EA woulda learnt after the big rant when they released BF1942 without ASE support.

Good luck posted on TMT and on ASE forums.

Kdja

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! it can only get worst.
Just seen this posted on BF42.com.de
[quote:425e8]GameSpy Industries, a leading content and technology company, and Electronic Arts (NASDAQ: ERTS) , the leading interactive entertainment software company, today announced that the two companies have signed a multi-year technology licensing and services agreement. Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.

Under the agreement, Electronic Arts ("EA") will incorporate GameSpy's middleware into select PC games that feature online game play. GameSpy will also provide assistance in managing the back-end services for EA's online games that use the GameSpy middleware, providing server, bandwidth and reporting support.

"GameSpy's online gaming solutions provide us with code that's easy to integrate seamlessly into our games, and a reliable back-end infrastructure," said David McCombe, Director, Piracy Protection for Electronic Arts. "Once our games are released, GameSpy takes care of managing the online infrastructure, freeing up our resources to build new games."

As part of the agreement, Electronic Arts will also make GameSpy technology and services available to its co-publishing partners.

The multi-year agreement is an outgrowth of the two companies' prior work together, supplying middleware and back end online gameplay support for titles such as Medal of Honor Allied Assault(TM) and Freedom Force(TM).

"Having EA as a long-term partner is an exceptional endorsement for our company and its technology," said Mark Surfas, CEO of GameSpy Industries. "Their standards for third-party tools are among the toughest in the business, and we're proud to have earned their confidence."

GameSpy offers a suite of multi-platform SDKs to enable online gaming, and the reliable back-end infrastructure that has matched players in more than one billion gaming sessions for more than five years. GameSpy's middleware supports multiple gaming platforms, including PC, the PlayStation(R) 2 computer entertainment system, Linux, Apple Macintosh, Nintendo(TM) GameCube(TM), and Dreamcast. [/quote:425e8]

Gamespy is really bad.

yeah ase rocks i hope they get all the votes

Aw CRAP! That's horrible news, rude.

Looks like ASE is gonna get the short end of the stick when it comes to EA games for a while.

That eats.


Zone

OK, help me out here guys. I like ASE just fine and it is a little more user friendly than GS and has one or two extra features, but nothing important. Why do you guys hate GS so much? What does ASE do that GS doesnt that you just cant live without?

I used to use the free version of ASE and decided to step up and buy one or the other. I finally decided on GS because:

1 - their lifetime was $20 compared to ASE being $30

2 - they were most likely to be around long enough to get my moneys worth out of a lifetime membership

When I first started using GS, I didnt like it at all. But after a week or so, when I got familiar with it, it is pretty much like ASE. And now that GS is flexing its $$$$, I like it even more. What about GS could possibly be worse than not being able to use it for your favorite game?

Well RUDE posted the information that I was going to give. Bottom line, not enough people know about ASE, and ASE does exactly what EA doesn't want it to do, which is filter out ad-spam.

[quote="The Coalition To Save ED!":b5a6f]Well RUDE posted the information that I was going to give. Bottom line, not enough people know about ASE, and ASE does exactly what EA doesn't want it to do, which is filter out ad-spam.[/quote:b5a6f]

Please define ad spam - I have never seen it.

Thanks for the info Rude. I've never liked Gamespy either. I haven't used it since I heard about ASE in this forum.

Its not that I dislike them so much but I do hate all the spyware they stick on your PC. I just want a option on what you can use.

I did not know they had spyware in GS. I dont think my spyware detector found anything other than kazaa, which has since been replaced with kazaa lite.

You've never seen the ad spam because you've got the regsitered version. Even THEY know how annoying it is with their tongueincheek ads that try to get you to register to get "rid of those nasty ads". And ASE interface is SOOOOO much more simpler to navigate around. It used to be you were able to see how many people were in a game that you dont have installed. Now you have to dig for that feature to even get access. With ASE I have to load up a small utility to launch the game. If it's full or there might be connection problems. No big, ASE wont open it. Oh no not with ASE. It'll open it regardless and let MOH figure out the connection suitability.

Bottom line its a whole lot for nothing with GS vs getting a little thats worth alot with ASE.

[quote="The Coalition To Save ED!":43db5]

Bottom line its a whole lot for nothing with GS vs getting a little thats worth alot with ASE.[/quote:43db5]

Heh, but mine works. :P

J/K - Yes, you are right, GS could take a few notes from ASE and upgrade their interface, but with only a couple of minor tweaks, GS could be just as good in that area.

Re: Listen EA!! Look at the numbers! Then you decised!
 

Ummm , ea will never change .

I wonder to know how many free publicity EA get to let speardhead exlusive to gamespy.


And gamespy is not stupid , ASE is almost more popular now . They will try to kill them.

In GaySpy you don't get a reliable idea of what your ping will be to a server.
In ASE you do.

In GaySpy it doesn't show reserverd slots on servers.
In ASE it does.
In GaySpy it will show my server as 17/20, poeople will waste their time trying to connect. Becuase there are 4 reserverd slots.
In ASE it will show my server as 17/16, people won't waste their time trying to connect to a full server.

The buddy system in Gayspy have never worked for me.
The buddy system in ASE has always worked for me.

I have a few different servers that I go to which need a password.
In GaySpy I cant save and use my passwords for different servers. ( or i don't know how )
In ASE I can setup and save the passwords for the different servers.

whats with al the EA bashing. its not like there horrible. who brought medal of honor allied assault to us? they might have messed up alittle on spearhead but they'll come out with a patch soon

right for most , execpt for ping . For ping ase still better but boht still not accurate because they ping a lot server same time.

Ping the whole list , than click on a server . than push CONTROL-P
Push it 10 or 15 time fast , and you will see .

umm not ea , 2015



EA is horrible , since BF is release . NO PATCH AT ALL. DANM WE NEED TO SHOOT 4 METERS BEFORE THE TARGET TO HIT! THIS IS A REAL JOKE! AND NO PATCH!? ahahahah . Cmon , i din't play bf since 1 monhts becuase that and most friends i know leaving BF .

Ok here's my take on the whole GS vs ASE. First of all, as rude dog said, you get spyware put on your computer (my adware picked it up) second you gotta pay $ to get those stupid advertisements to go away. ASE doen's have any advertisements so you immediatly get on and can refresh the list to see whats happening. I understand that there are added benefits to registering and paying for ASE, but who needs that when the free version is just fine.

Also I'm not gonna EA bash, but EA is making there online game go almost exclusively through GS. In fact even if you use the browser that comes with the game, they shamelessly plug GS "Brought to you by Gamespy"

I understand your point Pest, and I have had many people tell me that GS isn't so bad once you pay for it, but why should we when ASE does all of the same for free.

Just my $.02

The reserved slots thing is a peeve of mine, but it does show the spots in the bottom box as being reserved and it will tell you the server is full if you try to connect, but yes ASE is better here.

GS does always show my ping as being higher than it really is, but it is consistent. I can still make informed decisions on servers based on ping.

Passwords work fine in both. Right click on server in GS or go to properties. F4 in ASE.

The buddy list never worked for me in ASE and was one of the deciding factors in me getting GS. It works like a champ in GS. Kind of odd you had the opposite problem.

A minor one you missed - ASE will display the map rotation of a server and GS wont. Not a big deal, but it is there.[/quote]

Umm , . They still OFFER LIFETIME CONTRAC.


ASE will be very popular in next year , and i don't think they will offer this . This wil offer for year and monhts only.

THis price of ASE is very cheap , guys do like me and buy it . Its for life.
Most of my famely and friend bought it because i told them that.

ASE will be very more costly in some years...

(i notice price increase of 10$ in 1 year.)

You are absolutely right, and I was there in the past, but now, we are all getting what we paid for.

hey guys, another thing I like about ASE is that you can monitor a server. I use that function alot when a server is full. That way as soon as a guy drops out I see it and can get in. I also like the "force connect" feature.

I have the paid version of both products so I don't get the commercials on Gspy. (I forgot I did use GS recently to download the SH demo and since I had the paid version I got to go to the head of the line - it took me less than 20 minutes to download it - no waiting).

I didn't know GS even had a buddy list. My ASE buddy list works perfect and that is how I determined where I played until Teamspeak came along. Now I log onto TS and just ask everybody where they are. Thanks Jasper.

Ok heres how I see things -

GAMESPY is really only good if you have a need to get files immediately that may be exclusive or in high demand. As far as listing servers is concerned, I really dislike how it works. I dislike having to switch in between games just to be able to connect to a specific server I want to. I hate having to dl patch after patch (versus simple updates) just to get to a chat area. There are just so many little things that GAMESPY does that add up to alot.

GAMESPY will NEVER touch ASE as far as user friendliness is concerned. Never. A SMALL utility with no need to whore to other software companies to make a buck. That is why I stick with ASE. GAMESPY does NOTHING but list servers and tell the game to connect. ASE at least lets me know before I connect to a game that I wont be able to get in. I've said that before but that is a BIG thing for me.

The only thing GAMESPY has going for it in my opinion is that it provides demos before anyone else. I dunno about you, but I can wait 3 or 4 hours and get a mirror somewhere for a demo than wait half that time or more in line and then start dling from a company that cant be bothered to listen to the "community".

[quote:d0f1e]hey guys, another thing I like about ASE is that you can monitor a server. I use that function alot when a server is full. That way as soon as a guy drops out I see it and can get in. I also like the "force connect" feature.[/quote:d0f1e]

Totally forgot about that. That is an AWESOME feature. Force connect is useful too when you KNOW that you should be able to connect (such as with a pasworded server). I cant tell you how easy it is to just sit back and let ASE do the work for me instead of clicking on the server, launching the game, and being told im out of luck.

I don't understand. First EA rushes to get Spearhead on the shelves by not perfecting the game. All they want is the game to come out as fast as possible whether it sucks or not. They dont care about the customer, and never had. Then they decide to buy the rights to Gamespy so people cant use ASE. We are forced to get spanked with popups from Gamespy, forcing people to register because they are fed up. The In-Game browser is practically useless because it cant even see private slots, so half the servers we try and get into dont even work. They need to just see that the people prefer ASE, and GameSpy is a waste of everyone's time. If EA wants to continue making the best games they will need to get the customer's support. hake:

EA, you stupid monopolist pigs. Lets force people to have to use the ingame browser or Gayspy. That sounds like an excellent idea. And if the people want a more quality server finder, lets charge them an extra $20 bucks for a Gayspy subscription. OH best of all the $20 doesn't completely remove all the ads and doesn't help finding a better server.

-ktog3

EA really sucks now.....i dont know if i want to get sh...b/c if i do iam paying them and i hate them.....dont know if i will buy any more EA games.....EA SUCKS!

ASE is a bloody magic wand compared to GS.

FFS you can control your server, access rcon, kick people with one click of the mouse and always keep an eye on what's going on.

GS just helps you find the "SERVER IS FULL" screen.

LOL - If you guys like ASE so much, why dont you pay for it. $30 for a lifetime memebership. Maybe then they could compete with gamespy. I doubt EA even knows who ASE is. Anyone here ever heard of netscape???

Oh yeah, GS does force connect and monitor servers. My free version of ASE would never do that. It just told me the registered version would do it. I think ASE finally figured out that if the free version was too good, no one would buy the full version. The free version is getting dumbed down.

Cmon , EA know what is ASE . ASE comming almost more popular .

BF is supported .

iam telling u dude....ea doesnt even care...they will just blow this off....we are not even a handfull of the people that play these games......most people that buy the game DONT get it for multi....they want it b/c of the normandy beach landing, or parachuting fromt he sky, or fight ting the battle of the bulge, all in all....they could care less man....but i will keep fighting right along side ya rude :)

Pest I dunno what version of ASE you're using, but FORCE CONNECT has always been a feature in ASE. And the thing is you SHOULD be using the latest ASE if you check un AUTO-updates.

ASE is just so much less razzle and dazzle and gets right to it. And no, I'm not going to pay for a utility that I dont have to, and that functions MORE than adequately in the Shareware version. I think you are going to be hard pressed to find many agreeing positions on this forum for using Gamespy of ASE, simply because of the ease of use ASE presents. Who knows, maybe they will have to impliment some restrictions in the future, but for now they are on my good side.

Ed - you are right about the force connect - I meant the monitor feature is what I couldnt access for free. I phrased that poorly. I got the updates regularly for ASE when I used it. I have agreed repeatedly that ASE is more user friendly, at least for the first weeks. I was considering buying it and replacing GS, until EA made it worthless.

Good luck guys.

This poll is meant to show EA that their paying customers want a choice. Not what is better then the other. I for one would not want to see GS go away for the people who really like using GS. I would rather use ASE. I love ASE, I know people who love GS. I want to be able to chose what I use to find a server width.

I know when I first started out, I used GAMESPY cause I didnt know what the hell I was doing. There was ALWAYS someone in the chat there, and you got some good information. Now that I "get it", I dont need to use it, or know where to go to get information. GAMESPY is good for folks who want a "community" environment prebuilt for them, and is also useful for clans and such to meet.

For those though that really dont need all the extra bells and whistles, ASE is a preferred alternative. We need Gamespy simply because most companies are more comfortable with a utility with all the flash that will showcase their upcoming products. I can only imagine the type of traffic these people are getting from the 100,000 folks who have downloaded THE SIMS ONLINE BETA (man I got some wild photos - one word - LESBIANS!!!), and have checked out all the OTHER things that Gamespy has to offer. ASE cant offer that, and I dont think wants to. For that reason they wont receive the type of support that Gamespy gets.

This also doesnt take into account the amount of people who visit Forumplanet which is TONS more I'm sure than Gamespy - ALOT MORE.

how bout we end this thread by saying, DONT BUY SH AND WE WONT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ASE OR GAMESPY! lol there