Yes the thompson did have a 30 round magazine

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well now that you mention the Thompson,it also had a 50 rd drum magazine,as featured in many Gangster movies,however these were rarely used,if all by the US forces because of their complex loading and size.And what ever happened to the carbine?? you know the one that was magazine fed.This gun was used by the US military all the way thru korea and into Vietnam,when it was replaced by the M16.That would have been a welcome addition,as this gun was a real treat to shoot,low recoil,light weight,and FAST Reloading.DoD has this weapon,I have seen Screenshots with it.....NO I do not play DoD MOH is enough for me.....

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the thompson is only 20 round in the clip
the bazooka is missing a whole other step in in reloading, a wire is attached to the rocket, and you attach the rocket to some thingy at the end of the bazzoka,germans didn't have a shotgun and the allied shotgun was rarely used in the western front, usually the pacific,the mp44, or stg44 was never used until late 1944, and the scoped mauser loads bullets individually and the normal version loads it in as a clip.
how i got these facts?
my dad is a military historian.
i also think that the explosions should look bigger and more ferotious.
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i agree with innoxx that woul add some realism to the game as well.

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I love the M1-Carbine ! Because Paratroopers used it. IT was very light. But the thing that sucks, it that it had the stoping power of a .22....... Now for thoes of you who dont have any idea what a 22 is, well lets say I shoot you with a 22, and guess what.. If you were strong, you would stay up, and draw your gun and shoot me, and kill me. If you were weak, you may get knocked down a bit, but get up and shoot me, and kill me. The point of the matter is that no matter how big or small u are, you can always shoot me and kill me after I shoot you with a 22.

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Both the mausers reload correctly. Gren explosions maybe a tad bigger, but they dont make a huge explosion. I found the shotgun an odd addition as well.

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The M1 Thompson DID GET a thirty round magazine, the scoped mauser loads one round at a time because in order to get the whole stripper clip in, you'd have to disassemble the scope so there wasn't any obstruction, the shotgun did see a good amount of use in the Western Front, seeing as it's good for close quarters combat, it could be used in house fighting. How did I get these facts? I know how to read books. And the explosions are fine, some of the best, most realistic explosions ever to grace a game. And "ferotious" is spelled f-e-r-o-c-i-o-u-s, ferocious.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Innoxx:
the thompson is only 20 round in the clip
the bazooka is missing a whole other step in in reloading, a wire is attached to the rocket, and you attach the rocket to some thingy at the end of the bazzoka,germans didn't have a shotgun and the allied shotgun was rarely used in the western front, usually the pacific,the mp44, or stg44 was never used until late 1944, and the scoped mauser loads bullets individually and the normal version loads it in as a clip.
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la la la la la!

Get a life. It's called a game!!

SHIT YEAH Kraut Killer !!

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Yeah so anyway, the thompson did have a 30round clip, altho, if you were cheap you could get a 20 round clip, that came with it. But since you wanna stay alive, the people who would buy the thompson, would use a 30 round. As for everything else, Kraut killa said it all http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

hey u know whats pretty dope, bakc in the 20s when the tommy gun first came out u could buy it at the local hardware store without any registration or any sigin of anyform, u pay yur money and u get yur gun, hehe peace

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FuBarGrn:
well now that you mention the Thompson,it also had a 50 rd drum magazine,as featured in many Gangster movies,however these were rarely used,if all by the US forces because of their complex loading and size.And what ever happened to the carbine?? you know the one that was magazine fed.This gun was used by the US military all the way thru korea and into Vietnam,when it was replaced by the M16.That would have been a welcome addition,as this gun was a real treat to shoot,low recoil,light weight,and FAST Reloading.DoD has this weapon,I have seen Screenshots with it.....NO I do not play DoD MOH is enough for me.....

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>And what ever happened to the carbine?? you know the one that was magazine fed.This gun was used by the US military all the way thru korea and into Vietnam,when it was replaced by the M16.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bullshit. Absolutely crap. The M14 and also the M21 which was the scoped, H-Bar version used by snipers was the replacement of the M1 Carbine. THEN the US Military switched over to the M16A1 or otherwise known as the Armalite.

By the way, DoD IS a great game, maybe you should play it. And if the M1 Carbine isnt in this game, then someone will make one or it will be added in future updates...I hope.

One other point, the Drum magazine for the Thompson was used a great deal in the Pacific Theatre.
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[This message has been edited by BallisticWookie (edited December 21, 2001).]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Innoxx:
the thompson is only 20 round in the clip
the bazooka is missing a whole other step in in reloading, a wire is attached to the rocket, and you attach the rocket to some thingy at the end of the bazzoka,germans didn't have a shotgun and the allied shotgun was rarely used in the western front, usually the pacific,the mp44, or stg44 was never used until late 1944, and the scoped mauser loads bullets individually and the normal version loads it in as a clip.
how i got these facts?
my dad is a military historian.
i also think that the explosions should look bigger and more ferotious.
any questions or rants email me
at innoxx1@hotmail.com<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah great observations there http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif but for the sake of gameplay the tying of the wires to the batteries that actually fires the rocket was left out in my opinion because the reload time would have been disastrously long and the animation involved would have been bleeding hard to do. Who cares if you dont see the wires being tied, big whoop.

Germans didnt have a shotgun, so what, really who cares. This is this Multiplayer side of the game we are talking about. If the Germans had no shotgun, what are they gonna have to match it ?? Simply let them have it too. Personally I hate it, but ohwell. The shotgun was used in the ETO and also the PTO.

Who's to say that the Multiplayer part of this game is not after 1944 ?? The actual single player game has a mission where you have to destroy a large number of StG44's in *gasp* 1944, I think the developers did their research buddy.

We all know how the the KAR 98k loads, what are you trying to prove ? And am I right in assuming the game DOES actually load the bullets individually when you have the scoped version ??

Explosions look fine to me, too much Hollywood for you maybe ??

How do I know this stuff ?? I work at a Military Museum http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/wink.gif LOL. Just had to add that.

Just remember, this IS a GAME. Not a history lesson. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif
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Once again Ballwook has made some very good points. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Grenades dont do their damage from explosions the damage is from the hundreds of peices of flying metal that rip through your body. So the explosion is merley just what the grenades use to deploy the shrapnel so it doesnt need to be a huge explosion I think its accurate as it is.

How do I know this? I am a United States Marine

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Wait a second there FN2K, before you said you "used to be a Marine" ???

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The new dod beta coming up with infact have the M1-Carbine. As for the tommy gun at hardware stores for cheap, im not sure thats right. FOr awhile I thought that was true, but after reading more about it, Im not sure what to believe, because it cost $350 to make. In the vietnam war, they started out using the M14 (AWSOME WEAPON) but replaced it with the M16a1, so that much is true (right now the M16A2 is used for the army, but other forces use the M3 and M4)


The Thompson didn't have a 50 round drum that was used by gangsers, the TOMMY gun (almost same thing, but diff in many ways) did, and was used by the gangsers. Altho the thompson could use a drum clip, it was NEVER used, because it was so weird on it.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tyler Durden:
The new dod beta coming up with infact have the M1-Carbine. As for the tommy gun at hardware stores for cheap, im not sure thats right. FOr awhile I thought that was true, but after reading more about it, Im not sure what to believe, because it cost $350 to make. In the vietnam war, they started out using the M14 (AWSOME WEAPON) but replaced it with the M16a1, so that much is true (right now the M16A2 is used for the army, but other forces use the M3 and M4)


The Thompson didn't have a 50 round drum that was used by gangsers, the TOMMY gun (almost same thing, but diff in many ways) did, and was used by the gangsers. Altho the thompson could use a drum clip, it was NEVER used, because it was so weird on it.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>The Thompson didn't have a 50 round drum that was used by gangsers, the TOMMY gun (almost same thing, but diff in many ways) did, and was used by the gangsers. Altho the thompson could use a drum clip, it was NEVER used, because it was so weird on it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hahaha, no. 50 Round drum magazines WERE used, and in quite an abundance in the PTO. The version with the drum magazine had an extended barrel and a vertical foregrip. I've also seen some Thompsons with the drum magazine attached, obviously some modifications done to the weapon.

The M16A2 is used by not only the Army, but the Marine Corps, Navy, Airforce, Coast Guard and National Guard. There is also the COlt M4A1 which is mainly used by the more Elite Forces. The Canadians use an M16A2 Variant named the C7A1.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FuBarGrn:
[quote:55bcf]Originally posted by Tyler Durden:
I love the M1-Carbine ! Because Paratroopers used it. IT was very light. But the thing that sucks, it that it had the stoping power of a .22....... Now for thoes of you who dont have any idea what a 22 is, well lets say I shoot you with a 22, and guess what.. If you were strong, you would stay up, and draw your gun and shoot me, and kill me. If you were weak, you may get knocked down a bit, but get up and shoot me, and kill me. The point of the matter is that no matter how big or small u are, you can always shoot me and kill me after I shoot you with a 22.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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well you are half right man.....the carbine didn't have that great of stopping power...BUT it did hold a lot of bullets,and if you shot someone 10 or so times with a 22....they'd go down....lol


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actually the m1 carbine has .30 cal bullets, not the regular ,30cals but one thatlooks like a big pistol round

man my rant got alot of feedback

yeah it did....you guys know your shit....I'd love to work in a military museum myself....great job huh BALLWOOK????

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tyler Durden:
I love the M1-Carbine ! Because Paratroopers used it. IT was very light. But the thing that sucks, it that it had the stoping power of a .22....... Now for thoes of you who dont have any idea what a 22 is, well lets say I shoot you with a 22, and guess what.. If you were strong, you would stay up, and draw your gun and shoot me, and kill me. If you were weak, you may get knocked down a bit, but get up and shoot me, and kill me. The point of the matter is that no matter how big or small u are, you can always shoot me and kill me after I shoot you with a 22.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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well you are half right man.....the carbine didn't have that great of stopping power...BUT it did hold a lot of bullets,and if you shot someone 10 or so times with a 22....they'd go down....lol


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geez thanks ballwook.....lol....I just forgot the designation of the m14...not its history...lol....well I still say we should have 50 rd drum mags for the Tommy.....PeacE!!!

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Question: Was the M14 used in WWII at all?

On a side note, the Tommy Gun in the game, the M1, didn't have the fifty round drum, it wasn't fitted for adaptation of drum magazines, only box (heh, and everyone loves box) magazines. It was the M1923 that had drum magazines.

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Question: Was the M14 used in WWII at all?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/wink.gif The M14 was introduced in May 1957. BUT, development of the M14 or it's earliest brother, the T20E2 began in 1944. Something like 100000 were made, but the war was so close to ending (the war in Europe had already ended) that sending them out to units was of no use.

The first ever M14 variant was designed with the M1 Garand body, just changing the mechanics inside and adding a magazine attachment. It fired something around 700 rounds per minute, but it weighed a heap.

Many changes were made up until 1957. They finally approved what we know as the M14 today. It was used widely as the standard rifle through the 1960's. The M21 or XM21 as it was known in the 60's was the accurised sniper version. A scope attached to the top and match grade ammuntion was used for greater accuracy.

In 1969 the M14 was almost widely replaced by M16A1 and sold off to countries with military aid programs. But you'll still see Spec Ops guys using this rifle because it is such a hard hitting and accurate weapon. SEAL Teams in Operation Desert Storm used it widely. It is also used by the Marine Corps for it's Snipers.

There ya go. Theres more history behind it, but I couldnt be bothered right now http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif I need sleep.

Yeah FubarGrn, it's great job http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif I enjoy it very much. But I;d much prefer to be in the Army, cant wait to join next year. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

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i think they should have the m14 in the game! that would just be bitchin!

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Wait a second there FN2K, before you said you "used to be a Marine" ???
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Sure they did, though it was not standard Landser issue. I've got a friend with a German shotgun that was part of a Luftwaffe pilot's "ground survival kit." I'll have to track him down to get the markings off of it.

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