"New Age Snipers" VS Conservative/classic snipers
 

Ok, if you all have seen the one thread about posting your sniping tactics, then you must have seen the "small" flame-war that's been stiring up.

I've decided to see what would happen here. If you are a sniper that likes to run around and kill-->considered a new age sniper

If you are a sniper that sits and waits for the kill, then you are the classic or conservative sniper.

I'm gonna start some kind of match between these two groups and I'd like to get some teams going. I was thinkg about the following teams:

New Age Snipers
1. Cethin
2. aNti hEro
3. Gary Coleman

Conservative/classic Snipers
1. [DAS REICH] Unknown_Sniper
2. Jedi Marksman
3. Counter-Sniper

If anyone wants to join a "side" please state so in this thread. Also, if anyone has server space or a good connection..post it up here (it will be appreciated)

All the best snipers, "I HAVE SEEN" Soviet, Gatz, Anti, Lysis, Big Al, oDy, ChryzM, o boy the list goes on, most possibly none were conservitive/ classic snipers. MOH is not real war, MOH is MOH great bad ass game, and if you know how to use that sniper thing the right way, like those guys do... then shit u have a huge advantage because they have almost perfect aim long range and at short can take a shotty out.

I on the other hand am no sniper, and I know when facing those guys, you better have some moves close combat along with the aim or your taken. So yea its cool some guys wanna be the World War 2 classical sniper and camp all day feel like their a real sniper, but come on this is MOH you dont get Medals of Honor for sitting on your behind like a "classical sniper" with a 23-7 score when the other guy is other guy "new age" sniper is 56-10.

[quote="N O T F || Glory":e486c]All the best snipers, "I HAVE SEEN" Soviet, Gatz, Anti, Lysis, Big Al, oDy, ChryzM, o boy the list goes on, most possibly none were conservitive/ classic snipers. MOH is not real war, MOH is MOH great bad ass game, and if you know how to use that sniper thing the right way, like those guys do... then shit u have a huge advantage because they have almost perfect aim long range and at short can take a shotty out.

I on the other hand am no sniper, and I know when facing those guys, you better have some moves close combat along with the aim or your taken. So yea its cool some guys wanna be the World War 2 classical sniper and camp all day feel like their a real sniper, but come on this is MOH you dont get Medals of Honor for sitting on your behind like a "classical sniper" with a 23-7 score when the other guy is other guy "new age" sniper is 56-10.[/quote:e486c]
thank you....i couldn't have said it any better myself. It IS a game and in a GAME, the real life strategies USUALLY don't work as they would in real life

What you are supposed to do is wait for the kill, make the kill, then move

Gary.. got your server space over on the 203rd server. We are aggressively anti-cheat as well, so you can be sure of a fair match.

Just PM me if you are interested and I'll schedule a time/date, passwords, and observers.

I would join a team myself, but I actually do both, depending on the situation.

I'm gonna jump on the "not really going to work " bandwagon.

I would like to see the results of the match but I dont think its going to mean anything at the end.

Classic "stay-in-the-same-spot-all-day-long" snipers rules. :)

Yeah... im definately a new age sniper... i think its funny when i go into a team-match and like ive been there for 5 minutes and most everybody else has been there for like 15 and my scour eis like 12:2 and theyres are like 16:15... new age sniping is cool... for a real rush dont use a crosshair its pretty sweet when u take some one out with a sniper without a scope or a crosshair... i know i love it biggrin:

Precisely. That is what I am talking about. Garry is still not clear on what I said. Pity.

jedi, are you in? I'm not even sure if you voted. If you're in on the battle, Captain Noctis Aeternus said he would host it. He's been kind enough to let us use his server for x amount of mins/hours.

yeah ...
 

i do believe that in a true to life war game the classics will rule out the new-age. ive been playing Ghost-Recon and me running around taking a few shots with my rifle vs a sitting sniper is harder because they track and watch the bushes move. there is also no way to move or not get killed but a bullet when side stepping in that game.

but.. thats not the game in question.

new age, due to MOH engine and the pace of it all, will take them out. it isnt really as realistic as we would like. no breathing techniques or anything. scoping while running back is not as possible as we would all like to believe.

sorry for the long jabbering
eek: adrianvincent

[quote="Garry Coleman":8df19]jedi, are you in? I'm not even sure if you voted. If you're in on the battle, Captain Noctis Aeternus said he would host it. He's been kind enough to let us use his server for x amount of mins/hours.[/quote:8df19]

Hey, I'll play along. Competition quickens the blood. biggrin:

i occasionally enjoy sniping. im a little of both catagories.
but anti-hero told me to go away hake: so im voting for the conservities

I'll still play in this match if you ever have it evil:

I'll join for Classic/Conserative. Plz give me the details, Gary.

I wouldn't mind joining the New School Snipers, since i finally whore myself and put a scope on that damn kar.

I just started getting used to the Mauser. heh

Ohh its tied 6-6...

hey im from rochester, actually a little town called Ontario just outside of rochester

Great, joe joined the dark side!!! BOOO!!!

Well, we don't really have rules, setup times, etc.

These were the questions/options that will have to be accomplished:
1) Where will it be held? --Captain Noctis Aeternus offered his server
2) What maps
3) When
4) Spearhead? or plain MOHAA?
5) Teams--people adding to them so that'll be decided later on
If we have enough people...we can make different teams under each sniper "division"
6) How many rounds, time, yadda yadda yadda!
7) Anymore question/concerns.....post them up in this thread

So far, here are the teams....if i missed you or you didn't specifically state which team you would like to be on, then just PM or post your choice in this thread.

New Age Snipers
1 Cethin
2 aNti hEro
3 GaryColeman
4 Ktog3

Conservative/classic Snipers
1 [DAS REICH]Unknown_Sniper
2 Jedi Marksman
3 Counter-Sniper
4 ST_Bazooka_Joe (BOO hake: biggrin: )

[quote="Simo Häyhä":9a389]i occasionally enjoy sniping. im a little of both catagories.
but anti-hero told me to go away hake: so im voting for the conservities[/quote:9a389]

Simo, you want to take my place. I'm going out of town and won't be back until after New Year's. Garry, this cool with you?

Thanks for including me, though biggrin:

conservative is the way to go but we still hav eto know how to use it in cqb and new age style
in thsi game, there is no camoflage
there is no where that you can be sure that no one will find you
the maps hav ebeen played to long and all the sniper spots are known
you can hide in a bush, but 1) your view is messed up
2) to an opposing sniper, there is no bush at a
certain distance away
a 80% conservative and 20% new age is the way to go

whoops i meant 80% and 30% because snipers always give 110%
HOOAH!!!

hey Gary. well since we have tried sniping against each other before, you know that i am definently not new age. i believe that moving around too much attracts too much attention. i like to sit and wait. conservative/classic i am. count me in.

Cheers,

Shifty

Camouflage? Hmmm. How about we ask the host to have some multiplayer camo skins on his/her server. I was thinking of these:


http://www.modtheater.com/pafiledb.php? ... ile&id=147

Here's a little sniper guide for everyone:

http://www.alliedassault.com/community/guides/reborn/

[quote="The Counter-Sniper":e3925][quote="Simo Häyhä":e3925]i occasionally enjoy sniping. im a little of both catagories.
but anti-hero told me to go away hake: so im voting for the conservities[/quote:e3925]

Simo, you want to take my place. I'm going out of town and won't be back until after New Year's. Garry, this cool with you?

Thanks for including me, though biggrin:[/quote:e3925]
nah, you can still be in it. This will most likely be next year in early 2003. I'm gonna be gone too....leaving Sunday 29th till the 4th. I am going to Miami to the Orange Bowl! WHOOO! anyway.....

Yeah, i'll list you down instead of having a replacement. I'm happy how this is going so far and hope it will turn out fun for everyone.

[quote="Garry Coleman":f38b6]So far, here are the teams....if i missed you or you didn't specifically state which team you would like to be on, then just PM or post your choice in this thread.

New Age Snipers
1 Cethin
2 aNti hEro
3 GaryColeman
4 Ktog3
5 Glory

Conservative/classic Snipers
1 [DAS REICH]Unknown_Sniper
2 Jedi Marksman
3 Counter-Sniper
4 ST_Bazooka_Joe (BOO hake: biggrin: )[/quote:f38b6]

Throw me in there Garry, im game cool:

ROSTER UPDATE

Conservative/classic
1 [DAS REICH]Unknown_Sniper (no formal validation, so he may be "iffy")
2 Jedi Marksman
3 Counter-Sniper
4 ST_Bazooka_Joe
5 BoB_Shifty

New Age
1 Cethin
2 aNti hEro
3 GaryColeman
4 Ktog3

again, if i missed you just PM me or state otherwise in the thread..

I'm in for the classics team.

Also on a side note about the server I can host one from my home. I got a super fast cable 3 times faster than normal cable. I have hosted 12 players before and pings were all below 100 or just above 100. I can make it nice and private for us. Also will there be any realism mod while we play?

That's what i'm hoping for. I'd like to put a realism mod in there. And, the mod won't be no pistol bullets crap...regular realism.

Also, i need to know if everyone has Spearhead. There are a couple good maps in sprearhead for sniping. If everyone has it, great. If not, we'll have to play normal MOHAA.

[quote="Garry Coleman":174c5]Great, joe joined the dark side!!! BOOO!!!

Well, we don't really have rules, setup times, etc.

These were the questions/options that will have to be accomplished:
1) Where will it be held? --Captain Noctis Aeternus offered his server
2) What maps
3) When
4) Spearhead? or plain MOHAA?
5) Teams--people adding to them so that'll be decided later on
If we have enough people...we can make different teams under each sniper "division"
6) How many rounds, time, yadda yadda yadda!
7) Anymore question/concerns.....post them up in this thread[/quote:174c5]

Sounds good, speak with ChickenBoo or Cyberdoc, they might be willing to let us use the server for a 1/2 - 1 hour or so.

You should do Allied Assault for a few reaons:

First off, a lot of people dislike Spearhead with an intense passion. Such as myself. EA really took a good thing and shot it into the ground.

Secondly, not everyone has Spearhead.

Thirdly, my server is set up to run AA =P

Also, I wish you would consider Classic, and not realism. If you are truly seeking to settle an issue, you should go with the stock game. That way no one can complain about the realism mods.

Team sizes should not grow too large, or the point could also be lost. It places the "conservatives" with a distinct disadvantage if you have more than 4-6 people per team. They are trying to stay put, and when they fire there are 6 other snipers laying in wait. They may relocate, but most MoH maps have few exit routes. Leaving them immediately vulnerable and unable to switch tactics.

Will the games be TDM or round-based?

Adding camo skins is no problem, but they should be agreed upon by all participants.

And finally, who would be interested in turning this into a tournament? Of course there are the pre-constructed "All Star" teams, for each side (I'll join up with the New Age, for the sake of making things even). But what about having some 2v2 matches or something to that effect? If anyone is good (and quick) with web design, we could get a crude info site going, post matches and wins, etc. We could also do this leading up to the final bout between "conservatives" and "new age," since it will be some time before that match.

Yes, I would recommend MOH too, simply due to the fact no overweighs on the sniper rifle. They both carry 5 rounds, bolt action.

May I suggest that you compile a list of alternates, in case the teams you have cannot make it or someone has to drop out. I'll be here(barring any crazy circumstances), I can't speak for everyone else. biggrin:

ill be a fill in for the conservities if ya need me. i cant start off though since i usually use the mg (although i do love the m1 to death happy: )

New Age owns you! evil:

I will be in the classic snipers. cool:

oooh ooh
 

can i play in this match? i am a mix of both types of snipers, but i think im more of a new-age sniper, so can i play please?