SO MUCH FOR PIRACY EATING AT VIDEO GAME SALES...
 

[url=http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/news/0,10870,2909760,00.html:eed3e]Gamespot[/url:eed3e] has an article which basically bucks the trend (much like what happened to the music industry and it's fear of "file sharing") that PIRACY is significantly affecting video game sales, and the health of the industry. It's obvious that the industry couldn't be any healthier, thanks in part to console sales (again this is JUST for console's, although it is just as easy to pirate these games as it is to pirate PC games).

This isn't suprising considering that the PS2 accounts for more than HALF of SONY's annual revenue. Seriously.

No.

Fucking.

Joke.

Mkay.

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK CUNT YEAST INFECTION FUCK FUCK i would like some milk from the milkmans moist tits

I knew all along that the "piracy is making us lose millions" argument was
HOGWASH: this just makes it all better.

I knew that was a bunch of garbage. The Interactive Entertainment sector is almost outpacing the film industry for profits. PIRACY! What a joke!

Record sales are down not due to fileswapping, but lack of talented artists, in my opinion. biggrin:

thanks to the japanese....they buy it all

w00t piracy!

[quote="aNti hEro":ef47f]FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK CUNT YEAST INFECTION FUCK FUCK i would like some milk from the milkmans moist tits[/quote:ef47f]

...milk-man, eh?....you might have to go a bit lower than you're planning... eek:

Piracy is just something for people to bitch about. Let's face it, games these days are half assed rushed peices of work that hit the store shelves FULL of glitches i.e. SH . As for the music industry...don't fucking get me started. When there are gameshows that select the next "big thing" in the music industry you know they have enough money to waste.


DOWNLOAD MOVIES
RIP CDS
GET WHATEVER YOU WANT FOR FREE!!
FUCK CAPITALISM

thirteen year old calm down

ROLF I ain't 13 hake:

The coporates won't have little insignificant nothings, eating away at their Billions.

sorry, 12?

Damn you are good. (stfu eatthis: )

My guess too.

word cool:

I support piracy cause there cheaper.

How does the article have any relation to pc games or piracy?

I have said it before and I will say it again - Ed, you are an idiot.

[img]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/faustus/piracy.jpg[/img]
You read that Komrades! When you rip it makes you no better than a filthy commie. Can you live with that? I know I can biggrin:

when did the soviets get so sun burnt?

Re: SO MUCH FOR PIRACY EATING AT VIDEO GAME SALES...
 

[quote="The ED! Foundation":0e436][url=http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/news/0,10870,2909760,00.html:0e436]Gamespot[/url:0e436] has an article which basically bucks the trend (much like what happened to the music industry and it's fear of "file sharing") that PIRACY is significantly affecting video game sales, and the health of the industry. It's obvious that the industry couldn't be any healthier, thanks in part to console sales (again this is JUST for console's, although it is just as easy to pirate these games as it is to pirate PC games).

This isn't suprising considering that the PS2 accounts for more than HALF of SONY's annual revenue. Seriously.

No.

Fucking.

Joke.[/quote:0e436]

We knew this for years now. The reason that software prices are astronomical is because of warez. They said that if warez didn't exist, game & software prices would be anywhere between 45-60% lower than they are now.

I'm the chuckle-head, but YOU'RE the only one who isn't able to draw any comparison between the article and the UNSTATED issue of console piracy.

Nevermind this little bit of typing I put in...

[quote:ea7f4]It's obvious that the industry couldn't be any healthier, thanks in part to console sales (again this is JUST for console's, although it is just as easy to pirate these games as it is to pirate PC games).[/quote:ea7f4]

But then again PEST, not reading something does give you something to bitch about, and what would you do if you couldn't bitch.

Have sex with wife, play with kids (god I hope not), read a book, live your life. Yea - totally not the same as bitching.

[quote:ea7f4]We knew this for years now. The reason that software prices are astronomical is because of warez. They said that if warez didn't exist, game & software prices would be anywhere between 45-60% lower than they are now.[/quote:ea7f4]

Where the hell are you getting this from? I have YET to see a comprehensive report that can CLEARLY create a link between software piracy of any kind and a RISE in costs. What is the TRUTH is that most of these "loss" reports are based on models where ACTUAL sales are not taken into account but POTENTIAL sales are. POTENTIAL is another fancy word for "maybe this Taiwan boy whos family makes 100 dollars a year is gonna buy MOH for 50 bucks". MAYBE. I'm sure you have lost HUNDREDS of POTENTIAL POON, but...cmon..lets get real here.

The "threat" of software piracy has created a GREAT marketing and price increase tool for companies to justify new security measures and price hikes to the public.

Smoke and mirrors.

As I said, the industry is doing SOOOO bad, that they have had a record year in total sales.

you have your other name back right? so why are you posting with this one still?

Ed - I said what I did because your conclusions had absolutely no connect with the article you provided as "proof". I am not saying your conclusions are wrong, but they are still different from mine. A 15% increase in profits after the release of multiple completely new gaming systems isnt exactly raping, plundering and pillaging. That is most likely an average increase, and contrary to your opinion, they should be allowed to make a profit. Console games are just as easy to pirate as pc games, but most likely done less than pc games because of a younger. less computer savy audience and the fact that a pc is not a prerequisite for console games.

Another flaw in your conclusion - an increase in profits does not = piracy doesnt have a significant impact on sales. If pirating was completely eliminated, I bet (pure speculation) that for every ten copies of a game pirated now, 3 or 4 would actually be purchased. That is significant. Anyone that has ever downloaded games knows that you will dl damn near anything if it is free, you get much more selective if you have to pay. On the flip side of that, if you didnt get anything you didnt pay for, you would definately have to buy more if you wanted to continue to play.

These are just my opinions and are probably wrong, but at least I didnt give you a link to a story about woodchucks and offer it as validation.

Youre arguing for the sake of arguing. Do you honestly think that the "industry" is going to release a story "Software Piracy ISNT hurting us; sale on the rise!"?. Honestly.

That being the case, i made a connection between two topics that aren't as apples and oranges as you seem intent on making it seem. Like I said, it would appear you are the ONLY one who has a problem with what I'm discussing going hand and hand.

In your OWN reply you make the statement that there is LIKELY a connection between piracy and unit sales; yet you seem to think that because I believe the opposite (not that there INS'T a connection, but that it doesn't bear as marked an influence on games as much as industry execs would have u think), my opinion is ludicrous and wholly unrelatable.

Right.

[quote:e3041] you have your other name back right? so why are you posting with this one still? [/quote:e3041]

Because I'm at work and it takes as much time to log out/log in as it does to JUST get into the damn site.

If piracy/warez were eliminated the prices of games, CDs, mail order brides, whatever, would not go down one cent.

I can remember a time before Napster, before peer-to-peer, before the internet got binary, when games consoles first came out and I can tell you that the relative cost of games was the same then, if not higher than it is now.

It is obvious that piracy and "sharing" hurts the industries, but considering the amount of time that they have been fisting the consumer it could be considered as a little bit of corporate karma.

if it wasnt for pirating i wouldnt have half the games i do

I read the title of the thread thinking that there would be some information about piracy. Instead I got a sales report with completely unrelated speculation. At best, your logic is flawed.

[quote:678d6]maybe this Taiwan boy whos family makes 100 dollars a year is gonna buy MOH for 50 bucks[/quote:678d6]

Thats why I support piracy. The game industry is making billions even with piracy on a rampage, and only well off people can buy real games. Thats why people in less well off classes should also have the opportunity to play them without spending half their damn income.

Yeah, I support piracy. Hell, I have bills to pay! I'm not gonna be spending 70 bucks on a game that I find to be shitty, I'd rather pay my power bill. If a game is good enough I will buy it, but most games that are being churned out are very half-assed.

Many of us pirate. Thats not the issue. It is illegal. Its stealing. It hurts the game makers. These are not grey areas. If you want to pirate, then by all means, pirate. But dont come on here with fucked up logic and try to justify to me why it is not stealing or why it doesnt hurt game makers.

All of my PC games in Doom days costs no more than 20 bucks. Sometimes 30. The average price of PC software has increased about 47% in the last 10 years. If piracy was magically gone by tommorrow, software prices wouldnt be back to normal for a year or more, but in a few months, they'd drop some money. (A 50 dollar game is estimated at 42 within a month)

[quote="Bazooka_Joe":24e0f]All of my PC games in Doom days costs no more than 20 bucks. Sometimes 30. The average price of PC software has increased about 47% in the last 10 years. If piracy was magically gone by tommorrow, software prices wouldnt be back to normal for a year or more, but in a few months, they'd drop some money. (A 50 dollar game is estimated at 42 within a month)[/quote:24e0f]

And you could also buy a car for 100 bucks "back in the day".


The word kids, is inflation.

I thought this guy is banned.

[quote="MR. SPECIAL ED":0e0ef][quote="Bazooka_Joe":0e0ef]All of my PC games in Doom days costs no more than 20 bucks. Sometimes 30. The average price of PC software has increased about 47% in the last 10 years. If piracy was magically gone by tommorrow, software prices wouldnt be back to normal for a year or more, but in a few months, they'd drop some money. (A 50 dollar game is estimated at 42 within a month)[/quote:0e0ef]

And you could also buy a car for 100 bucks "back in the day".


The word kids, is inflation.[/quote:0e0ef]

It dosen't inflate that much in ten years, you assclown! It would go down at the same rate! It's like gasoline, goes up with supply, not with inflation.

i dont pirate, i dont feel guilty for doing so, why get caught in the loop hake:

[quote:df635]It dosen't inflate that much in ten years, you assclown! It would go down at the same rate! It's like gasoline, goes up with supply, not with inflation.[/quote:df635]

Go to college. Seriously. You have ZERO clue of what you are talking about.

You cannot draw me a clear and concise relation between piracy and the RIDICULOUS rise in PC costs. That is ludicrous. By YOUR logic, that 20 dollar game (which would cost you 27 dollars NOW), has tacked on 23 dollars worth of what? Anti-piracy measures? Certainly the advancement on technology warrants SOME increase in cost, but as new technology becomes easier to use and cheaper to produce, the cost falls on software using the same technology.

So where has that increase in average PC game come from? I laugh at anyone who can justify increasing the costs of goods based on a POTENTIAL SALES MODEL of units lost from buyers who more than likely WOULDN'T purchase the game in the first place. Out of ALL the games I have pirated, there is maybe TWO or even THREE that I would actually have gone out of my way to purchase. Two are 50 dollar games that are largely multiplayer oriented thereby being low on single-player content (graphics, story, etc.), and high on fluff.

The state of this industry is a joke, and suckers eat it up willingly. The point of this thread is to show that despite the bullshit tactics used by companies to justify the cost of software, the house that PONG built isn't an ANY kind of trouble whatsoever. In FACT it looks like the industry spent MORE this year, which means it has confidence in its products and the way it's set up.

And pest, I never said PIRACY was a justifiable practice. Like I said, nitpick for something to bitch about....cmon.....dont pay attention to Mrs. Pest in her nighty - you've got more important things to do.[/i]

[quote="MR. SPECIAL ED":ed27a][quote:ed27a]It dosen't inflate that much in ten years, you assclown! It would go down at the same rate! It's like gasoline, goes up with supply, not with inflation.[/quote:ed27a]

Go to college. Seriously. You have ZERO clue of what you are talking about.

You cannot draw me a clear and concise relation between piracy and the RIDICULOUS rise in PC costs. That is ludicrous. By YOUR logic, that 20 dollar game (which would cost you 27 dollars NOW), has tacked on 23 dollars worth of what? Anti-piracy measures? Certainly the advancement on technology warrants SOME increase in cost, but as new technology becomes easier to use and cheaper to produce, the cost falls on software using the same technology.

So where has that increase in average PC game come from? I laugh at anyone who can justify increasing the costs of goods based on a POTENTIAL SALES MODEL of units lost from buyers who more than likely WOULDN'T purchase the game in the first place. Out of ALL the games I have pirated, there is maybe TWO or even THREE that I would actually have gone out of my way to purchase. Two are 50 dollar games that are largely multiplayer oriented thereby being low on single-player content (graphics, story, etc.), and high on fluff.

The state of this industry is a joke, and suckers eat it up willingly. The point of this thread is to show that despite the bullshit tactics used by companies to justify the cost of software, the house that PONG built isn't an ANY kind of trouble whatsoever. In FACT it looks like the industry spent MORE this year, which means it has confidence in its products and the way it's set up.

And pest, I never said PIRACY was a justifiable practice. Like I said, nitpick for something to bitch about....cmon.....dont pay attention to Mrs. Pest in her nighty - you've got more important things to do.[/i][/quote:ed27a]

I'm sorry were you talking? I was too busy trying to analyze what the hell your avatar is.

I got an idea: How bout I pretend your banned, and just delete all of your posts? angel:

the uproar of piracy will come and go... just like the uproar over the vcr. Entertainment executives said then what they are saying now, that this would put them out of business. As you can see it didnt. And there is pretty much no way the RIAA and the MPAA can deprive us of a new technology. It will prevail no matter what.

btw I do not pirate...

[quote:d00f8]I'm sorry were you talking? I was too busy trying to analyze what the hell your avatar is.[/quote:d00f8]

Which is STATEN ISLANDESE for "I have no response so heres an attempt at humour..."

[quote:d00f8]I got an idea: How bout I pretend your banned, and just delete all of your posts?[/quote:d00f8]

The WOOK has taught you well. When your beat, just delete the beater!

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