Men of valor = same old crap?
 

Im thinking it will be, when you look at pc games multiplayer modes lately outta 3 big name games, medal of honor, return to castle wolfenstein and soldier of fortune 2, only 1 showed anything good and that was rtcw.

Wolfenstein has a good multiplayer mode mainly because it was handled by another developer and not a last minute throw together like moh or sof2. I was browsing the mov forums earlier and it kills me to see people suckered by the same old shit.

When moh was announced we got screens which looked great, then vids, then a lame ass deatmatch mp demo and an addon for it adding another level. By then i had lost intrest as it was obviously yet another game with the same bog standard run of the mill boring as hell multiplayer modes. Can anyone explain to me the logic of tdm in moh? basically 2 teams rotate round the map several times killing each other, ooh how original. Im sure hat took all of the extra months they needed for "polishing" the game just to implement that shit.[img]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.marley/Smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Unless 2015 get the finger out men of valor will be more of the same, a decent sp mode followed by a wanky multiplayer mode. People are gonna do the same we did when medal of honor was annouced, get your hopes raised to the roof and then when u play the game wonder why in the fuck you bothered wasting over a year drooling over it.

Maybe if some developers COUGH2015COUGH would actually listen to idea's for multiplayer and not use the same tired shit over and over the game would actually be worth looking forward to. Wonder if they'll actually put a prone in this time round and be assed animating it. [img]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.marley/Smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]


The only good thing it has going for it is sierra who are normally very mod friendly publishers.

Basically what im saying to the vets that post on mov is dont get your hopes up. We all did for moh and we got fucked in the ass when it came to multiplayer and certain moronic "realism" mods (COUGH CKR COUGH) didn't help matters. Most of u have probably learned your lesson from moh i would hope.

Gerard got up on the wrong side of the bed today. Ya i think this is probably really overrated, cause well it is the same makers of MOH. If its like that new Game VIETCONG, which suckes cock by the way, im gonna be really pissed. I bet were gonna see alot of "this game sucks cock" threads after it comes out. Hopefully its not a big diapointment.

[quote="Coublacka_":66045]Gerard got up on the wrong side of the bed today. [/quote:66045]

Actually my beds beside the wall i can only get up on one side. biggrin:

when was the last time that a game lived up to everyones expectations

[quote="Old Reliable":67687]when was the last time that a game lived up to everyones expectations[/quote:67687]


Whens the last time a game lived up to expectation period? Probably never.

Id say Raven Shield (Which nobody here plays) is the only game that lived up to expectations for me

this game is awesome though

[img]http://images.3dgamers.com/screenimages/games/ww2frontlinecmd/may_30th_screen10.jpg[/img]

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[quote="Old Reliable":68b75]this game is awesome though

[img]http://images.3dgamers.com/screenimages/games/ww2frontlinecmd/may_30th_screen10.jpg[/img]

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i thinks its supposed to be a screenshot

MOH far exceded my expectations. It was a sleeper. I was hoping for big things from RTCW and was disappointed. Red faction was a game that exceded my expectations as well, but I never tried multiplayer. MOH has support issues and is somewhat buggy, but the game play was always good. Hopefully, MOV will be good, but that game is over a year away, probably two. Too far away to worry about. Viet cong doesnt interest me after playing the demo. It is a game made for campers. I cant see teh enemy from 20 yards away, even when they are moving. I hate that. MOH was borderline too dark for me to play. Maybe I just need glasses, but I dont like games like that.

Unreal 2 is out in a week. It has potential for being a rockin single player game.

games like unreal 2 are boring, i wanna see more ww2 games that dont look like crap or have crappy support

Thats exactly wat we need more WW2 games with better gameplay and less lag.

don't count on it. i doubt most of the market would have the attention span for a true ww2 game

Something like dod would be good as a retail product though it needs its visuals upgraded heavily.

true but dod isn't boxed up and shipped out to the sales bin, no company would support a product that much.

From what ive read though it may be going retail soon. Then again that means tons of n00bs and a load of hacks. =/

seems a little old to be going retail doesn't it?

Dod? nah. All they need to do is spruce up the weapons models and shit and sell it for $20 or so. Same with counterstrike that retails for $20 i think. Saying that though counterstrike:condition zero will be a full orice game and its on the same ancient hl engine. ed:

But all the player models and weapons have been overhaued so they look a lot better. biggrin:

I think MOV:V might do good. All FPS are basically the same, just a small twist/feature that changes them.

Red Faction: Geo-Mod technoligy.

UT2003: fast-paced gameplay, graphics.

MOH: Realistic WWII gameplay.

Just the weapons, graphics, and the physics of the FPS are what set it apart from another.

[quote="Bazooka_Joe":90556]
MOH: Realistic WWII gameplay.
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Lay off zee crack. Realistic ww2 gameplay? Did soldiers in ww2 run about keeled over to one side while maintaining perfect accuracey?

[quote="Bazooka_Joe":c5d0f]I think MOV:V might do good. All FPS are basically

MOH: Realistic WWII gameplay.

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were youplaying the same moh as me?? oOo:

damn he beat me to it evil:

i guess i missed the deleted bob scenes where they run around assault sniping, lean strafing, bunny hopping, nade spamming, running with perfect accuracy, full auto with no recoil, rifle-like mg accuracy on the first shot, russians landing in normandy scenes.

[quote="Bazooka_Joe":47c15]
MOH: Realistic WWII gameplay.
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rrrrrrright

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Lay off zee crack. Realistic ww2 gameplay? Did soldiers in ww2 run about keeled over to one side while maintaining perfect accuracey?[/quote:4972b]

And what's more realistic? BF1942? WWII Online? I doubt that. Besides the glitches & cheats, MOH is probably one of the best WWII FPS ever.

[quote="Bazooka_Joe":601fe][quote=Gerard]

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Lay off zee crack. Realistic ww2 gameplay? Did soldiers in ww2 run about keeled over to one side while maintaining perfect accuracey?[/quote:601fe]

And what's more realistic? BF1942? WWII Online? I doubt that. Besides the glitches & cheats, MOH is probably one of the best WWII FPS ever.[/quote:601fe]


Urm imo and a lot of others moh online is nothing more than a dumbed down version of quake 3 with ww2 weapons. As far as realism goes day of defeat is more realistic. Battlefield was never intended as a realistic game.

so since bf1942 is arcadey (like mohaa isn't) that automatically makes mohaa realistic?

DoD is mostly one shot kills in chest right?
At least in that it's impossible to kill anyone who is more than a couple of meters whislt you are running

ok ive played alot of games and i think mohaa is my fav and mov should be fun i have played q3 (and a lot of there mods) but that game gets very boring very fast and rtcw was my 2nd fav game and bf1942 if i had fps i would play it lol

I dind't like RTCW at all.

i cant believ that men of valor is using unreal engine. did u see the screenshot's they look like mohaa's graphix.

The game is probably almost two years away from release. I am sure the graphics will be better. The ut2k3 engine should be a vast improvement over the q3 engine.

i'd the gameplay to be similar to operation flashpoint's

They could put DoD 4.0 in a box and people would pay $50 US dollars to play it.

MOH was one of the most unrealistic gameplay experiences ever. For the reasons as stated by Strik0r above. You have to be joking me if you think this game is realistic.

DoD has its kinks, yes, but it is far more enjoyable, the support (by Valve, by the community, and by the dev team) is very good, and the DoD team continues to strive for a better, realistic, and enjoyable gameplay experience. Not to mention, it is fully customizable, with a real SDK.

Now the TL, DR (Too Long, Didn't Read) version - DoD > MOHAA, and most other WWII games.

lol dod looks like someones playing with cardboard figures

yah never really noticed that..

lol im stupid but what is dod?? oOo:

[quote="Old Reliable":32b80]lol dod looks like someones playing with cardboard figures[/quote:32b80]

[img]http://3rd-id.dodhq.net/skins/3rdidv2.jpg[/img]


Considering the guts of the engine is Quake 1 and 2, essentially, I believe they did pretty well, don't you?

BTW, the default models are old and have been replaced in 4.0.

DoD = Day of Defeat - [url="http://www.dayofdefeatmod.com"]http://www.dayofdefeatmod.com[/url] (horrible forums. D:)

is this game free?? or is it a mod for a nother game??