Scripts and cheats
 

I really don't think there are any programs for MOHAA that are cheats, just glitches, bugs, and commands in the game that can make your playing much easier, like the no fog command, etc. And EA games put it in the console purposely for developer's needs, but people are using them to gain an advantage in the online game. Is it really cheating, or just scripting? Cheating is bad, but scripting...? It happens in Jk 2 alot...
I dunno.
I say its not as bad as cheating, but it's pretty 'lame'.

I think this topic should be discussed.

depends all on what you're scripting

For example, I would consider 'no fog' a lame script, not a cheat... And these glitches and bugs? Well, their just glitches and bugs.

So, do you agree on my depends statement? Anyway, where's our edit button. Let's keep on track, do you agree? fire1:

uhh...sure why not

Thats what I thought... No Fog isn't a cheat, it's just a dam lame script.

what a freakin' spammer
it is all bad, just leave it at that

One variable does not constitute a script. So no_fog is not a script. oOo:

Yes, it all is bad, but if no fog is not a script, what is it? It's not a cheat or a script...so what's left...?

It's a cheat. Using it is considered cheating. It's suppose to be cheat protected but MOHAA sucks. So if you need more of a resolution. Think of it as an exploit. Bottom line it's a cheat. If you use no_fog, you put yourself in a loser crowd of piss poor sorry idiots that never excel at anything.

lol I love topics like this...

"Hmmm I exploit flaws in the programming and I think its OK...discuss"

If you do anything to give yourself an unfair advantage over other players then your a cheat, wether you see it or not. hake:

so by using a better crosshair i'm a cheater? works for me

who gives a fuck what no_fog is. its a fuckin cheat. if you cant see that, then go back where you came from.

Crosshair images do not give you an unfair advantage. being able to see twice as far does... Leaning back and forth running down the street does not give you an unfair advantage. Leaning back and forth under the map does.

Nice way to put it.

Yeah, I guess...maybe.
MOHAA doesn't suck though...
But I rest my case, there are no official non-mohaa programs that can add an advantage to the gameplay.

Well...
More more more!

this thread is ub3r gh3y

Then don't take part in it.

I feel that if anyone uses a script/cheat in the game to get an advantage over a player, they shouldn't be playing on a server that I am in. I don't think its just, and even if it were EA's mistake not to patch it, it dosen't make it right, or fun, to exploit.

[quote="Bazooka_Joe":28bc6]I feel that if anyone uses a script/cheat in the game to get an advantage over a player, they shouldn't be playing on a server that I am in. I don't think its just, and even if it were EA's mistake not to patch it, it dosen't make it right, or fun, to exploit.[/quote:28bc6]Well said. But let me say that Snipey's right, this thread is pretty lame. I mean, all the threads on aa.com go back and forth between cheating to EA sucks to "this clan's uber lame" and back again... well, throw in an occasional retribution from an ex-cheater (not that I want to drudge that crap back up).

Anyway, you want an opinion, here it is: if you feel you need to do something to make it easier to "win" at the game, whether it be SP or MP, then you're applying a cheat. Afterall, in SP God Mode is a cheat specifically thrown in by EA for people who either can't hack playing it normally or enjoy just wreaking havoc for an hour. You take that same idea to MP, it doesn't change because it's in a different arena - it's still a cheat.

Now, why would you want to bring this up after seeing these discussions go the same way every time. I mean, is there a difference between a less-known person bringing it up versus a commonly known cheater bringing it up. Either way, looks like you're just trying to justify taking advantage of other people.

a cheat is a cheat, if it gives u a large advantage than its a cheat

Cusker is absolutely correct.

The only reason folks are starting these threads is to see what kind of reaction they will get and see if they can stir the flames even more. Some folks need to get a damn life.

[quote="Captain_McCusker":1acf2][quote="Bazooka_Joe":1acf2]I feel that if anyone uses a script/cheat in the game to get an advantage over a player, they shouldn't be playing on a server that I am in. I don't think its just, and even if it were EA's mistake not to patch it, it dosen't make it right, or fun, to exploit.[/quote:1acf2]Well said. But let me say that Snipey's right, this thread is pretty lame. I mean, all the threads on aa.com go back and forth between cheating to EA sucks to "this clan's uber lame" and back again... well, throw in an occasional retribution from an ex-cheater (not that I want to drudge that crap back up).

Anyway, you want an opinion, here it is: if you feel you need to do something to make it easier to "win" at the game, whether it be SP or MP, then you're applying a cheat. Afterall, in SP God Mode is a cheat specifically thrown in by EA for people who either can't hack playing it normally or enjoy just wreaking havoc for an hour. You take that same idea to MP, it doesn't change because it's in a different arena - it's still a cheat.

Now, why would you want to bring this up after seeing these discussions go the same way every time. I mean, is there a difference between a less-known person bringing it up versus a commonly known cheater bringing it up. Either way, looks like you're just trying to justify taking advantage of other people.[/quote:1acf2]

Good post.

[quote="Captain_McCusker":8ece6][quote="Bazooka_Joe":8ece6]I feel that if anyone uses a script/cheat in the game to get an advantage over a player, they shouldn't be playing on a server that I am in. I don't think its just, and even if it were EA's mistake not to patch it, it dosen't make it right, or fun, to exploit.[/quote:8ece6]Well said. But let me say that Snipey's right, this thread is pretty lame. I mean, all the threads on aa.com go back and forth between cheating to EA sucks to "this clan's uber lame" and back again... well, throw in an occasional retribution from an ex-cheater (not that I want to drudge that crap back up).

Anyway, you want an opinion, here it is: if you feel you need to do something to make it easier to "win" at the game, whether it be SP or MP, then you're applying a cheat. Afterall, in SP God Mode is a cheat specifically thrown in by EA for people who either can't hack playing it normally or enjoy just wreaking havoc for an hour. You take that same idea to MP, it doesn't change because it's in a different arena - it's still a cheat.

Now, why would you want to bring this up after seeing these discussions go the same way every time. I mean, is there a difference between a less-known person bringing it up versus a commonly known cheater bringing it up. Either way, looks like you're just trying to justify taking advantage of other people.[/quote:8ece6]

Good post.

joe, your getting to be a pain, ever since u became a mod, its like your fukking god hake:

watch me get banned from these forums

Try to look at it in this perspective.
Is it still cheating on a server that allows certain mods like sniper scope modifications?
It should be up to the server to decide who is and is not cheating.
If the server states...No custom skins or no snipermods or scripting changes and you use them then your cheating. plain and simple!

has he pm threatened you yet?

[quote="Captain_McCusker":56ab0][quote="Bazooka_Joe":56ab0]I feel that if anyone uses a script/cheat in the game to get an advantage over a player, they shouldn't be playing on a server that I am in. I don't think its just, and even if it were EA's mistake not to patch it, it dosen't make it right, or fun, to exploit.[/quote:56ab0]Well said. But let me say that Snipey's right, this thread is pretty lame. I mean, all the threads on aa.com go back and forth between cheating to EA sucks to "this clan's uber lame" and back again... well, throw in an occasional retribution from an ex-cheater (not that I want to drudge that crap back up).

Anyway, you want an opinion, here it is: if you feel you need to do something to make it easier to "win" at the game, whether it be SP or MP, then you're applying a cheat. Afterall, in SP God Mode is a cheat specifically thrown in by EA for people who either can't hack playing it normally or enjoy just wreaking havoc for an hour. You take that same idea to MP, it doesn't change because it's in a different arena - it's still a cheat.

Now, why would you want to bring this up after seeing these discussions go the same way every time. I mean, is there a difference between a less-known person bringing it up versus a commonly known cheater bringing it up. Either way, looks like you're just trying to justify taking advantage of other people.[/quote:56ab0]

i agree....

seriously, if i wanted to enter a competitive 'sport' i'd just stick with chess (no hacks/cheats there i hope ;) )

i play MOHAA for fun

not yet but soon maybe hake:

Maybe not. sleep: