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[This message has been edited by SS.SGW-Siggi (edited January 06, 2002).]

I did a quick search on Copernic...found this in under three minutes:

QUAKEBOT VERSION 1.7e RELEASED 07/13/01

Highlights:

Enhanced security
Bot Kicker?! Haha. Nice try "ca.mtown.com". Special thanks to SnoRider for the code http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/wink.gif

Bug/Gameplay Fixes
Fixed bug in NameFun toy that caused some odd crashes.




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Comments on using Commands:
Version 1.7 can be tailored to your preferences by a series of bot commands.
They can be set to preferred intial values by using the Quakebot.ini file. A
sample file is included in the ZIP download file. Edit it to your liking and put it
in your quakeid1 subdirectory.

They can also be modified in two ways, by key binding or by direct "bot console" input. Keys may be bound to commands in a config file (ie quakebot.cfg) in the normal way, with the bot commands prefixed with "qb_". For example, bind "F1" "qb_assist"
will set the F1 key to toggle Assist mode on/off.

During the game, one may also use the quakebot Hot-Key sequence "Shift-Esc"
to open a bot command console. Typing the sequences:
Shift-Esc / Assist True will directly set Assist mode On.
Shift-Esc / PingAdj -150.0 will reset PingAadj to -150 millisecs

Commands with Binding Support:
Click on a link to go straight to that word.

| Assist | Attack | Action | Teams | AutoWeap | Timers |
| Glow | Stats | Grapple | Focus | HUD | NoSpam | NameFun |
| Cloor | PowerUps | Buddy | Mute | Dodge | Secure | Debug |



Assist (qb_assist)
Assist mode "true" disables autofire. When you shoot at an enemy, the bot will just assist your aim a bit (if possible). Very, very human-like; you're just a better shot.

Attack (qb_attack)
Attack mode is normally "true". When set "false", you will only target/shoot enemies immediately in front of you. As "false" is a more "human-like" setting, it is also less effective.

Action (qb_action)
Action mode is normally "true"; this enables autoaim/autofire. With Action "false" the bot is will not function as an AimBot. This is the mode that is (by far) the most controversial. Note: Action is the same as ActionAllowed

Teams (qb_teams)
Teams toggles DM/CTF mode of play.

AutoWeap (qb_autoweap)
AutoWeap is normally "true". When set to "false", the bot will stop selecting weapons. Note: AutoWeap is just the reverse of NoWeaponChoose

Timers (qb_timers)
Timers set "false" disables the countdown timers for powerups, weapons and ammo.

Glow (qb_glow)
Glow set "true" enables glow cheat. Enemies glow, amd enemies with Quad sparkle.

Grapple (qb_grapple)
Grapple set "true" enables bot grapple code. Set "false", you use with your normal aliases for grapple.

Cloor (qb_cloor)
Cloor is a toggle function the starts/stops autofire on the current target. If you want the Bot to stop autoshooting someone, toggle Cloor. To start autofire on someone, shoot them and toggle Cloor. This IS NOT the cloor cheat. It is used AGAINST people using the cloor cheat.

PowerUps (qb_powerups)
Powerups set "true" generates multicolored dots in the direction of the nearest powerup you face (quad, 666,megahealth, biosuit, etc). Good for learning about new levels.

Buddy (qb_buddy)
Buddy mode set "true" allows the bot to move on its own. Maybe I should call it "Quake TV".

Mute (qb_mute)
Mute mode set "true" disables all bot screen displays.

Focus (qb_focus)
Focus set "true" will target any enemy you manually fire on as especially hated.

HUD (qb_HUD)
HUD set "true" enables the onscreen enemy location update message.

NoSpam (qb_NoSpam)
NoSpam set "true" (default) suppresses repetitive messages.

NameFun (qb_NameFun)
NameFun set "true" cycles your name in running banner fashion. Just for fun. Your original name gets restored when reset to false.

Dodge (qb_dodge)
Dodge mode set "true" allows the bot to dodge (duh!). Bot will attempt to dodge incoming rounds and opponents directly facing the bot.

Secure (qb_secure)
Secure mode set "true" allows the bot to ignore a disconnect command.

Stats (qb_stats)
Stats just prints out some autofire statistics. It's only real use is for reporting bugs back to me.

Debug (qb_debug)
Debug mode set "true" does whatever I want it to do.

Obviously I'm not going to say where I found this, but anyone with a half-decent search engine won't need my help.

Aimbots...ten-a-penny. Solution? Give EVERYONE one.


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[This message has been edited by SS.SGW-Siggi (edited January 06, 2002).]

Cheating indeed. If I cheated I'd win a lot more games than I do on public servers.

Ok, for those who want to know this is what happened.

If any of you have read the shotguns, snipers, etc etc thread (4 pages long now, can't miss it) that Hannover started you'd know that Siggi and myself had a disagreement on something.

Well, we agreed to play a game when we could. Rigz saw him on his own server 'Siggi's ADSL server' or similar, and I went on to give him a game.

Was fairly good-willed to start. Once we got going, Siggi got me a couple of times, I got him a couple of times.

He out-thought me maybe 3-4 times in all. I won't go into how many times I out-shot him. He knows how many.

At the time I started there was 3-4 other players all ranging from 100-350 ping (ADSL servers aren't exactly what you'd call stable) and Siggi had 0 ping.

Suffice to say the other players got regularly raped. It started with me and perhaps 3 others on Allies and Siggi with one other on Axis.

Siggi racked up a few kills (if I died the rest died shortly after, if I didn't die, we won). Then Rigz joined the server and joined Ally.

So it was what you would call unbalanced in numbers, but then other than Rigz and I Siggi didn't have much trouble clearing the 2-300 pingers up.

In fact, to start, Rigz and I let them go first to find out where Siggi was hiding http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

Eventually those players got bored of being ritually slaughtered and it was pretty much just Siggi, Rigz and myself. The only other player was poor olli, who pinged at 200+. I felt sorry for him, he died a lot. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

Now, I'd be the first to admit that was unfair teams. It was, as Siggi didn't win many (if any) rounds after that point. Either I'd get close and kill him with my SMG, or Rigz would snipe him from range after I'd died to Siggi or not.

Of all the times Siggi died I'd have to say I killed him the most. In my opinion he wasn't a bad shot at all, very sneaky player.

On about two occasions Siggi had killed me and I was watching Rigz in Spectator, and he sniped Siggi when he was very static and not moving at all.

The two times that Siggi was actually moving and Rigz shot him I was still alive, so didn't actually see it.

We didn't boast or taunt Siggi once.

I know Rigz doesn't cheat, and I have seen some of his shooting with the sniper rifle. Like I said, he has practiced it thoroughly (he rarely uses any other weapon) and is a very good shot.

So then Siggi starts to accuse Rigz of cheating and it all mud-slided from there. Rigz gets accused of cheating in Half-life by newbies, and some not-so-newbies, all the time. He ignores them.

The fact of the matter is, both I and Rigz know we don't cheat. That's all that matters to us.

We don't really care what Siggi, or anyone else says or thinks. We don't cheat, and I will not reply to any other post on this thread about the matter.

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[This message has been edited by SS.SGW-Siggi (edited January 06, 2002).]

Well at first no one cheated for hl ! But when cheats started coming in, then they got on top of it.

As for warezing it. Who ever said they were going to do that should be banned from these forums. You sir, show lack of respect towards hard work. 2015 made this game for you, and in return you throw it back in their face ? It's because of people like you, who make the gaming companys lose money, and its because of people like you, who make it so we have to have the fucking CD in our roms to play the game WE PAID FOR. And because of people like you, we have to worry about cheaters getting it for free, and then cheating away as they make on person after another quite playing MOHAA.

And if you thik you're in the green to do this, well you are infact wrong. If mohaa turns out like DF2 because of cheaters, I wont have any choice, but to go so apeshit, I'll go out of my way to see that thoes bastards pay. Because you think you are safe when you are on the internet, but little do you know when you post on these forums you give your IP out.. And that IP could fall into the hands of someoen who will take action on you. So if I were you, I wouldn't be an asshole and do that.

Siggi, my dear friend, I think you were overly flustered, it is possible to get really good with the sniper rifle, and when one finds that groove you can hit anything. I don't think he was cheating, and I suggest a rematch one on one, mano y mano to prove that, have a moderating spectator if necessary, there are not any bots out, at least yet, and I highly doubt he uses one, MOHAA is an experience you won't regret, please stick around k?

Yeah Tyler, give it to me. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

And I'm tired of shiftless western developers who put shite out the door and expect us to download huge patches at our own expense after paying full fucking retail.

I kind of got used to it until Oleg Maddox came along and showed us all that it CAN be done properly...Ilyushin2. The finest piece of code to ever come onto the PC market. It pisses all over ANYthing done by fat, lazy, greedy western hacks.

Soldier sim...any developer worth his salt gets the basics planned well in advance. Most basic elements: soldier positions. Come on, how can ANY developer neglect to ensure prone positions make it into a soldier sim??? It's like leaving the fucking undercarriage off a plane.

I don't think my expectations are unreasonable. Prone position is BASIC STUFF for gawd's sake!!!

I predicted nearly two years ago that eastern european developers would be the ruin of western developers if they could do a better job. Oleg Maddox and Il2 are a sign of things coming. Eastern europeans are hungry and prepared to WORK. Western developers think we owe them a fucking living for their shoddy, under-specced, half-arsed crap.

Bring MoH up to par or don't be expecting full retail for it. Full retail means full game, not Deadly Dozen Light.

I like this forum, good place to rant. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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IL-2 ain't good enough to keep your attention away from this forum, though. Guess they need to patch it http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

We fly official missions twice a week in Il2. They are long and quite taxing.
In between we fly practice missions online.

To avoid burn-out I don't fly it much off-line.
For light entertainment I play MoH. Unfortunately, much as I keep trying to remind myself it's not important, my quest for quality gaming leads me to rant about MoH's many shortcomings.
In my private life I'm a perfectionist, and I extend that standard to other peoples' work I'm afraid. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

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Anyone wants to see some of my work, go here:

http://www.virtualsports.purespace.de/

I don't cut corners, and I get pissed off when others do...especially phat-salaried western developers.

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yeah your right. Games these days are for slackers. What they need to do is put it in the hands of the player. Games like medal gear solid 2, where u have to hide bodys, now thats life like. And thats what peopl want. Games like moh should have came out 3 years ago, but the game industry is stuck in a rut, and now all games are the same game play !

Its like when they set out to make moh, they had a goal, and they knew how long it would take to make a fps , and they set a dead line. When they got to work, they wanted to add so much more stuff ! But oh no the dead line ! Ya see, big companys like EA and Activison are no good ! The game makers need to work at their own pace, and not some dead line of some guy sitting in his chair waiting for the money to come in ! Its not that western developers dont work hard, its that the ideas are at a dead end. AND THEY SHOULDNT BE ! I mean, they just came out with from dusk till dawn the videogame, and soon to come out with the game the thing. Both based off movies that didnt do well ! And gameplay is not going to be anything new. How could it ? So what is there to the game ? why buy it ? There is no reason to.

What western developers need to do is stray away from the big game makers, and make their own game. The reason Half-Life and quake were so big is becuase it was something new ! Now all games are based off of good looks and sound. What happen to gameplay and good acting in games ? I'll tell ya what happen ! Dead lines were set, money was cut short, and time was lost !

When the eastern games take off I think it will open the eyes of the west, and things will get back on their feet. Right now there is no reason at all to make videogames, because what is there to give to the player he or she hasnt already seen or done, or heard ? If 2015 didnt need the help of ea and could do everything themselfs, then you would have your prone, you would have your flamethrower, and you would have the time that should have been spent in the game, but was lost due to it being takin away by big bubusiness.

Which would u rather have.. A game that was set by a due date, and was shiped out with things that had to be takin out. Or a game that took a extra year to make, but had everything you have ever wanted ? I myself would pick option number 2. I rather wait 4 years, then 3 or 2, or 1 for a game. Because you know the time and thought was put into it. Not that moh had any put into it. But not enough, and more could have, if more time was givin.

FOR CHRISSAKE SIGGI RUN YOUR OWN SERVER!!!

Then you can ban anyone you suspect of cheating, and be one happy little kitty.

P.S.

QUIT YER DAMN BITCHIN!

You're giving me a headache.

I had a few e-mails. Jeez, enuff already.

My CS setup was joystick in the right hand, track-ball in the left. I found it to be a killer combo.
MoH, trackball in the right hand, keyboard in the left. Ok for rapid-fire, but too jittery for anything else.

Anyway, in the interests of fairness I decided last night to do some experimentation. I got my hands on a selection of mice (mate's shop, squad-mates' homes) and tried them out.
Regular mice are pretty crap, but not as crap as my track-ball for steady aiming.
But two mice stood out...both wireless, one optical, one ball-regular.

I do believe with the wireless mice it would be possible to practice enough that one would be able to track a moving target and hit it, though not if one were moving oneself (lucky shots excepted). The zoom-in/out was faster also than on my trackball, probably something to do with my TB's age.

I went online to test the best mouse (USB Wireless regular-ball) and found I could acquire and hit targets very quickly with it. Considering I was playing cold and have no practice with the sniper-rifle I was considerably suprised at how easy it was. With intense practice I can believe that one would become quite deadly.
It doesn't explain the phenomena of some snipers always seeming to know where a target is hiding...I do know there are thousands of Asus Magic-Eye drivers out there though.

I have a burr up my arse where cheats are concerned, and that fact has un-balanced my judgement somewhat. I should have done the mouse testing before pronouncing anyone a cheat. I still have my 'paranoid' suspicions regarding snipers and aimbots/Asus drivers, but under the current circumstances I have no valid grounds for suspecting Rigz to be anything other than a sniper-obsessive who needs to stop practicing and get a real life. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/wink.gif

I therefore make an unconditional apology to Rigz and Ydiss for slagging their names without a sound basis in fact. Sorry guys.

We all know this game is rife with cheats, but until the fuckers making it decide to get off their useless arses and give us secure code we'll just have to grit our teeth and allow the cheats to prosper. It's either that or take the risk of branding innocent people.

Final note to the wankers developing this no-prone, no anti-cheat-code game: a) Remove the sniper rifles. They totally un-balance the map in the hands of anyone who has anally and obsessively practiced with them. b) Remove the anti-tank weapons from any map that doesn't have armoured vehicles. Too many kids use them inappropriately and spoil the play.

That's my lot. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif


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Well here's some free advice for ya Hellbaby that'll cure what ails ya...DON'T READ MY POSTS!

Ain't complicated is it. If you've got half a brain.

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*scratches head*
*walks away*

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Solidus is my Techie Bear! 'Nuff said.
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Be afraid. We are coming.
I am http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/ava...2015avatar.gif 's sexual slave! Hoo-ray!

"I have a burr up my arse"

Can you not get cream for that off the doctor??

And errr .... i believe as things stand there is no way to make a cheat proof code http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/frown.gif
Its not like they dont try...its just that some coder/hacker will always find a work round and so an update is required http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/frown.gif....its like farting against thunder so they say!!)
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Siggi,

I'm sure if you read my post carefully you can use your amazing powers of perception to discern that it is I who posted the solution to YOUR problem.

Now that I know what your posts generally contain, I can assure you that I shall steer quite clear of them in the future. As it is, I cannot undo the damage that has been done.

And if you'd read any of my posts carefully you would have learned that I do run my own server.

That's gotta smart. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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oh, I see... My apologies, I had mistaken this for an actual problem you were looking for a solution to. I realize now that you are simply complaining to hear the sound of your voice, in which case...

SEEYA! 8)

Way to go Siggi - good for you for being able to admit you were wrong and apologize. That makes you a real man, I know cause I am a real man, and I am ALWAYS apologizing, mainly to my wife so she won't kick my arse. "I know I spend too much time on the computer, but Im SORRY honey and it won't happen again"

Now what you have to do is lose the wireless mouse, cause they are slower than wired mice. I use a logitech ifeel mouse (optical) and I understand MOH will support the force feedback. If you don't like the ff, you can always turn it off. Only $10 more for the ifeel than the regular optical logitech.

And get rid of joystick and use keyboard.

I ordered a Claw as keyboard substitute, but it sounds like you are left handed and I don't think it will work for you. http://www.ferrarodesign.com.au/

Off topic but...

Siggi that is REALLY excellent work on that plane!! I wish I was HALF that good at weathering techniques!!!!!

I have been reading these forums for a long time but just decided to participate. Siggi has a point about strange goings on in game, sure this time he may be mistaken, but let me relate a little story to you.

Yesterday I was on a server and had a ping ranging between 45 and 60. It was team hunt and there was a guy on the opposing team who seemed invincible. He seemed to absorb a ridiculous amount of ammo without any real effect. So we began to watch him closely to see if it was our aim, or really something wrong. Myself and two others came out of the allied spawn and he ran in from the back way. He was surrounded by me and two other guys all unloading our thompsons into him with the blood patch you can really see your hits. Needless to say we riddled him and all three of us ended up dead as he ran off.
This wasn't lag, bad aim, etc. This was something very bazaar. His buddy then began to switch teams towards the end of a round to obviously tell him where our last few men were. As soon as he would switch teams, his buddy would find whoever was hiding on our team. They were either on the phone, or roger wilco.

Crap like this is what ruins games. I have played every FPS you can name and I can tell when something is funny or something is bad on the server end, etc. I am not going to name these 2 because I don't think that solves anything. My prediction is that there is already rampant tweaking of the code and this game could very well head down the fork of the road with CS in the near future. Let's hope not.

I'm happy I'm only partially interested in the multiplayer aspect of the game, otherwise, I'd also be posting in relation to how pissed off I am about cheaters. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Hopefully 2015 will attempt to fix the code.

uuuummm and hes talking about what now ?

I'm totally sick of the whole affair. This isn't what gaming is supposed to be about. Even when a game is honest everyone is so paranoid about cheats it might as well be crooked.

I've never warezed a game before, but MoH will be my first. I'm damned if I'm going to pay £35 for a game the developers can't be bothered to at least TRY to protect from hackers. Then, when my gaming fun is ruined by paranoia or an actual cheat I'll be able to smile and say "cost me bugger all." http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

Screw you 2015. Do the job properly or fuck off out of it.

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I was referring to Siggi's message 9 messages up above mine where he said to check out his work.

aaahhhhhhh yes ........

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hotspur:
Spray n Pray: your posting of Siggi's acid comment was low-dog. I'm steppin in here because Siggi's acid comment was a humerous reply to my humerous post re alcohol. Spray n Pray: dont take the fun out of posting by acting like some priggish old maid! Next you'll be burning Harry Potter books!


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Your right, Hotspur. It was "low-dog". His post about acid was just a little bit of levity, albeit surrounded by his usual moat of flame(I read the whole thread).

However, Given the seriousness of the title of this thread, and the fact that this exact thing is what I've previously warned him about(labelling cheaters), I have no remorse.

What's done is done. Siggi, if you truly will ease up on this compulsion to view your opponents as cheaters as opposed to merely targets(which in my opinion is more fun), then you will hear no more vitriol from me regarding this subject.

BTW, since you seem to favor IL-2 Sturmovik, I did a little research and as per your recommendation I will be picking up that game. So, I thank you for that.

And not to stray too far from the original poster: Harry potter sucks http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

You know that protecting against aimbots is
impossible right ? NO ONE can do ANYTHING
about it. Period.

The code, yes. We don't know how 2015 will
react to the cheats : maybe they'll support
the community and patch everything or they
might also just ignore us.

Point is, we don't know if they will or not
so let's not tell them to fuck off m'kay ?

And again, AIMBOTS cannot be prevented.
Nobody can "fix the code" for that. DEAL
WITH IT.

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" Although the whole of this life were said to be nothing but a dream and the physical world nothing but a phantasm, I should call this dream or phantasm real enough, if, using reason well, we were never deceived by it. "<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

work?

Since the question of mice has popped up here, perhaps I can get a little bit of info from those here(I'll probably post this too in the "off-topic" forum):

I have a logitech cordless mouseman optical, and 2 logitech wingman 3-button gaming mice(I have 3 gaming machines linked together...I know, woe is me http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif ). I was eyeballing the new 2 optic corded logitech mouse. Anyone know how this one would compare? How it feels, etc. ?

[This message has been edited by SPRAYnPRAY (edited January 06, 2002).]

The optical logitech mice are very nice bud.
Work like a charm... I don't know about wire-
less but corded work great.

Spray, you can chuck as much vitriol around as you like mate, I care not. Flames, abuse, all entertainment as far as I'm concerned.

Anti-cheat code...it can be done. It's never perfect as the hackers and anti-hackers will always get into a leap-frogging compo.
But the developers owe it to us, the paying stiffs, to engage in that compo with their full resources. Put one guy on it full-time. How long will it be before the hackers get tired?

And the final weapon available...modify the EULA such that it makes a binding agreement between the publisher/developer and purchaser that any malicious modification of the code will expose the offender to massive civil liability.
Then pin a hacker down and sue the scum-bag into perpetual debt. Personally I'd go round to his home and smash both his hands, but that's just me.

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Heh. As if any of that would happen http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

Could be funny though.

Spray n Pray says: >And not to stray too far from the original poster: Harry potter sucks<

Thems fightin words! Hehe

Re mice: I own LOTSA mice. The logitech ifeel, as I posted previously, is lots of fun. I find it comfortable, responsive, and I like the force feedback. The most sensitive mouse I ever had was the Razor 2000, great for sniping, but the shape was so awkward that even after months of use it didn't feel comfortable.

I would never buy a cordless because it is my understanding it would be slower than a corded mouse, which makes sense to me: and why defeat your attempt to get the BEST mouse by getting a feature you probably dont need?

The new Microsoft Optical looks cool, and is supposed to be more responsive than the original Optical Explorer, which I found erratic.

I was thinking of getting it, but I do enjoy the force feedback when it is supported in games, (which is seldom)

Games that I played that were enhanced by ifeel mouse were: B&W, Tribes2, and UT. It was posted that MOH will support it and I certainly hope so.

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c`mon lets all hug !

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http://www.giveusahome.co.uk/funny/sassy.jpg

Those are some of the finest pussy shots i have ever seen.

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Be afraid. We are coming.
I am http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/ava...2015avatar.gif 's sexual slave! Hoo-ray!

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Those are some of the finest pussy shots i have ever seen.

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WAHAHAHAHA LOL

You won't be missed. And here's an interesting tidbit:

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Does acid count? Me and my bro did a nine-hour session on acid about a week ago and cleaned up. Hard liquor was also consumed, but I don't think it connected for obvious reasons. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Perhaps that explains all we've had to endure from you lately.

hehe