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Narco 02-19-2003 10:54 AM

Why won't people die?
 
Actually I want to post under what our name (Swamp Ass):


Me and my friend Chris have been playing MOH non stop every night for the last few weeks. Slowly getting better at it. Chris makes fun of me because I hate using the keyboard and I love to just run an gun (suicide style).

Anyhow my question is (And he does move out of the way, hides behind walls etc etc) we shoot people dead on at times in the head and they wont go down. We'll be shooting an shooting hitting them and then they take one shot and we die? Are these people using cheats? It would be nice to find servers that don't allow them and no fucking rocket launcherS! Damn I hate those things... how skilled do you have to be to blast someone with those (not very).

Chris

02-19-2003 11:00 AM

well i was going to help you, but then you started bitching about rockets hake:

Swamp Ass 02-19-2003 11:07 AM

RE: Why won't people die?
 
Awww c'mon! I did not mean to offend Rocket Launcher guys. I just hate getting into those battles where everyone is blasting away and you take two step and die about ten time in a row!

C.

Ydiss 02-19-2003 11:10 AM

Seeing as you just started the game it's probably going to be this simple reason:

You aren't actually hitting them in the head when you think you are.

I don't know how skilled you are at these types of games but a general tip will be to keep your bursts short (when using automatic weapons) to reduce recoil. If you're using an SMG or MG and holding down fire until the clip runs out your shots will rarely hit target.

If you already are doing this, then it's gonna be simply due to the other players being faster at killing you (more accurate).

There are a number of cheats for this game, but (so far as I know) none that stop you taking as much damage as other players, or dealing more damage than other players.

My suggestion is, providing you enjoy the game, accept you're not quite as good as these players and practice until you are.

Another is to watch them in spectator mode and see how they play.

Zoner 02-19-2003 11:13 AM

Play on realism servers and watch those pesky enemies drop like flies.


Zone

Bazooka_Joe 02-19-2003 11:42 AM

Do you have 56K? If so, your hits might not be registering with the server.

02-19-2003 11:44 AM

well, i hate getting sniped by a mg from across the map. i hate people who run around leanstrafing and bunny hopping using the sniper rifle like a smg. deal with it and patch.

Swamp Ass 02-19-2003 11:53 AM

RE:
 
No I use DSL.....

Ydiss 02-19-2003 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoner91
Play on realism servers and watch those pesky enemies drop like flies.


Zone

Except that will make them die even faster and won't help them improve their play anymore :p

Zoner 02-19-2003 12:05 PM

True...heh


Zone

Matrf 02-19-2003 12:38 PM

In medal of honor , its not because you aim head that you hit head .
You need to understand the recoil of each gun and the way to use it.

And you need to play under 100 to be good and under 80 to be elite when you already good oOo: with smg .
More than 100ms and you need to aim a bit before the target.


and you need cable or dls .


There is cheaters around , but most good player don,t cheat . Cheaters are retarted , just ignore them.

02-19-2003 12:55 PM

You hate leanstrafing snipers? And you defend rockets? Odd....

Rockets are lame and lean strafers are easy to kill. Your judgements seems pretty messed up to me

Whitehawk 02-19-2003 12:56 PM

As a fellow newbie, I share your frustration with pumping round after round into somebody only to have them one shot you. They aint cheating, they just know when to duck and when to shoot. An SMG or worse, a MG, is only accurate for the first round then the recoil starts to kick it up and (in the real world) to the left. Keep the bursts short and you'll start to get the hang of it.

I love rockets evil: Slow reload time and very limited ammo plus they end up blowing themselves up as often as they blow up the enemy. They actually have a look of surpise when I have them in my scope.

Good luck

/-/ighPriest 02-19-2003 01:14 PM

Quote:

There are a number of cheats for this game, but (so far as I know) none that stop you taking as much damage as other players, or dealing more damage than other players.
That's not entirely true. Server admins can change the damage of any weapon they choose. If it is not possible realism will not exist.

Bleuachdu 02-19-2003 01:30 PM

Keep practicing and you will get better. The only thing that I might suggest is downloading a blood mod. This way you'll know for sure if you're hitting an enemy or not. Also, I've been playing this game for a long time and it DOES take skill to use a rocket correctly and effectively.

02-19-2003 02:53 PM

Realism what they were talking about, and here we have been talking about clientside, not server side, you know what he meant.

And rockets never did and never will take skill to use, its just too easy to point and shoot. They should only be used when goofing around. They make the game much less fun. Its not fun to kill yourself and others when they are trying to play seriously. The rocket is just a joke of a weapon and should have been left for single player.

Sgt>Stackem 02-19-2003 04:43 PM

Ive heard of a paintball mod. I was told this will show you where your shots are hitting so if you use that you may find you arnt as accurate as you think. Time with the game is all that will really help

PS those leaners are easy to pick off! with a snipe rifle!!!!

=[ICB]= Hobbes 02-19-2003 05:31 PM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":ae665]Ive heard of a paintball mod. I was told this will show you where your shots are hitting so if you use that you may find you arnt as accurate as you think. Time with the game is all that will really help

PS those leaners are easy to pick off! with a snipe rifle!!!![/quote:ae665]

LOL nice sig

Im 40 do I qualify

02-19-2003 06:04 PM

why would you want to do anything in moh BUT screw around?

02-19-2003 06:41 PM

I dont know but ask anyone in a clan that same question

Ydiss 02-20-2003 10:21 AM

[quote="/-/ighPriest":5e7bc]
That's not entirely true. Server admins can change the damage of any weapon they choose. If it is not possible realism will not exist.[/quote:5e7bc]

As Jugernaut already said (thanks for backing me up biggrin:) I meant client-side not server-side.

Everyone knows you can alter weapon stats through the server but no one can do it to only affect them and no one else.

I must have said that about 300 times since posting here, hehe. Look at my post count, mate, isn't it obvious I would know about pk3 editing by now? oOo:

I didn't post this many times just to look like a sad no-lifer, you know evil:

02-20-2003 10:25 AM

[quote="[JuGGeRnAuT]":3efc3]I dont know but ask anyone in a clan that same question[/quote:3efc3]

anyone who plays moh that seriously is a fool. seriously, wtf is the point? everybody whines, everybody says "that guy must be cheating, he's pwning us!"

if people really want clans, they should try dod. an actual amazing concept, teamwork.

Ydiss 02-20-2003 10:46 AM

I tried looking at DoD and decided against playing it because it looked too involved. I don't really have the time to spend on a game that requires that much dedication to team-work, that's why I've stopped playing in my MOH clan.

DoD certainly looked dedicated to realism (it makes realism mods for MoH look positively amateurish - No offense intended, I know you're working with limited resources here, modders). And, let's face it, the engine is so ancient now that you could probably get over 300 FPS with modern machines (not that you'd notice the difference, but it's funny to see how fast the Half-Life/Quake engine runs these days).

I played MoH in a clan for a long time and had some really fun games but after a while it does get a little too much. I just enjoy a quick hour or two a night, these days.

Zoner 02-20-2003 10:55 AM

Same here, Ydiss. I joined =[LLC]= for that reason. They were a clan that didn't take things TOO seriously. We like to have fun and play by the rules, but there aren't stringent rules for practices or shit like that.

Being a cool guy is put above being a good player.

I've acquired a copy of Half Life recently, so I'm gonna see how DoD runs on my POS computer. Mind you, I'm not abandoning MoH...just curious about DoD's performance.


Zone

Ydiss 02-20-2003 11:39 AM

What are your specs bud?

Zoner 02-20-2003 11:49 AM

Horrible.

PIII 550Mhz
128MB RAM (Soon to be 384MB)
32MB ATI RAGE (Soon to be a lot better)
Win98SE
SoundBlaster Live! Value


Zone

02-20-2003 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoner91
They were a clan that didn't take things TOO seriously. We like to have fun and play by the rules, but there aren't stringent rules for practices or shit like that.

i'm sorry but i find that simply hilarious

wintersforge 02-20-2003 11:56 AM

Rockets are a great weapon. Teams use them to hold choke points.

02-20-2003 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wintersforge
Rockets are a great weapon. Teams use them to hold choke points.

and get the enemy mad so their entire team can be typekilled by pistol whip

02-20-2003 02:18 PM

did you patch it to v1.1 or v1.11?

If not then these people CAN be using god mode

02-20-2003 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strik0r
Quote:

Originally Posted by wintersforge
Rockets are a great weapon. Teams use them to hold choke points.

and get the enemy mad so their entire team can be typekilled by pistol whip

LOL!!!

that's a good strategy, while they're crying about "pussy rockets" skillfully club them upside the head biggrin:

Zoner 02-20-2003 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strik0r
i'm sorry but i find that simply hilarious

And why is that, Strik0r?

02-20-2003 02:25 PM

long story biggrin:

Zoner 02-20-2003 02:27 PM

Oh.

Well, all I can say is that I'm having a grand ole time. biggrin:


Zone

02-20-2003 02:30 PM

ja, it must be nice being in "the crowd"

Zoner 02-20-2003 02:34 PM

Aww, Strik, don't take it so hard. evil:


Zone

Ydiss 02-20-2003 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoner91
Horrible.

PIII 550Mhz
128MB RAM (Soon to be 384MB)
32MB ATI RAGE (Soon to be a lot better)
Win98SE
SoundBlaster Live! Value


Zone

Hehe, still better than what I used to have (Duron 700Mhz) and DoD (or the Half-Life engine) runs smooth as butter on that old thing.

You'll be fine with that machine, with or without the additional memory.

Zoner 02-20-2003 03:17 PM

Nice!

Let's hope so. freak:


Zone

02-20-2003 04:39 PM

Re: Why won't people die?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Narco
Actually I want to post under what our name (Swamp Ass):


Me and my friend Chris have been playing MOH non stop every night for the last few weeks. Slowly getting better at it. Chris makes fun of me because I hate using the keyboard and I love to just run an gun (suicide style).

Anyhow my question is (And he does move out of the way, hides behind walls etc etc) we shoot people dead on at times in the head and they wont go down.

REPEAT, or Learn to aim.


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